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I agree with D. If you guys want to keep posting the ATF SUX LOL "funny" image macros, you have absolutely no ground to complain when someone posts their next "why do americans need all those guns lol they should be banned" nonsense, because now this is a general purpose thread centered around guns, and because of how fethed up some of you are about guns, the clock will immediately start ticking on the discussion about the inevitable violent overthrow of the US government and the intricacies of foreign support during the revolutionary war and how the holocaust wouldn't have happened if Hitler hadn't taken away guns and all the various stupid gak that as a community, we came together to agree to avoid in this thread.

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So... could someone explain this "truck gun" thing? I don't get it exactly. I have a friend from Texas who explained this was common but like, if you need a gun all the time why not a CCW pistol? I'm not crapping on the concept, I legitimately don't understand it.

 d-usa wrote:

 KiloFiX wrote:

Why wouldn't I keep a truck gun? I have enough guns that I wouldn't miss it. And where I live in backwoods Kentucky, there are plenty places to get bigger guns if someone wanted to steal one. Besides, everyone already has guns out here.

My personal thought is that I consider an unsecured gun in a vehicle is just like an unsecured gun at my house or my front porch. Which I know people are also okay with, especially if they don't have any kids around the house to worry about.

Personally I keep my guns either physically on my person, or locked up (gun safe, lockbox attached to the floor of the vehicle, quick-combination box on the bed stand).

But different strokes for different folks as they say, that's just how I do it.

That's fair.

And I'll say that if I lived somewhere else like maybe a big city, I may not keep a gun in the truck.

@ouze - I carry a 1911 daily but no harm having backups.

5" barrel? I love the 1911, but I had to dress to accommodate it, so I eventually went to a 3.5" 9mm.

It does the job I guess but the 1911 feels so much better to shoot.

I have some ragrets. I should have just gotten another 1911 but with a shorter barrel.

We've had a couple of daylight break-ins in our neighborhood where someone just kicked open the door. We do have an alarm system that is active even when we are home, but I'm starting to think about carrying at home again (don't really carry at home, but I have thought about it).

I do have a handsy 18 month old, so I'm always on the lookout for holsters that do secure a gun very well and cover the trigger completely, but are still fairly easy to remove the gun from if needed.

So who all carries at home, and what are some good holster recs?

Holster wise, I like Bladetec, Milt sparks, etc.

Usually if I'm going in and out of the house during the day, my side arm just stays in my holster on my person. Better that than removing it and putting it back in, etc.

I actually carry the Commander version of the 1911. I has a 4.25 barrel. I prefer the 1911 because it's slimmer than a double stack like a Glock. The length is less of an issue than the width.

Plus, I use the 1911 in IPSC / IDPA, so I carry what I train and compete with.

 Ouze wrote:
5" barrel? I love the 1911, but I had to dress to accommodate it, so I eventually went to a 3.5" 9mm.

It does the job I guess but the 1911 feels so much better to shoot.

I have some ragrets. I should have just gotten another 1911 but with a shorter barrel.

I carry a full size 1911 in .45, it's all about finding the right holster. I use an inside the waist band model from old faithful, campus carry is legal here in Colorado and I attended classes every day with my 1911 on my hit in every thing from shorts and a loose t-shirt on up to winter wear and I didn't get called out once.

 d-usa wrote:
We've had a couple of daylight break-ins in our neighborhood where someone just kicked open the door. We do have an alarm system that is active even when we are home, but I'm starting to think about carrying at home again (don't really carry at home, but I have thought about it).

I do have a handsy 18 month old, so I'm always on the lookout for holsters that do secure a gun very well and cover the trigger completely, but are still fairly easy to remove the gun from if needed.

So who all carries at home, and what are some good holster recs?

If you're just going to be carrying in the house and don't care about it being concealed, a shoulder holster could be a convenient option. Depending on what kind of pants you wear around the house, pocket carry could work well for your LCP.

 Hordini wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
We've had a couple of daylight break-ins in our neighborhood where someone just kicked open the door. We do have an alarm system that is active even when we are home, but I'm starting to think about carrying at home again (don't really carry at home, but I have thought about it).

I do have a handsy 18 month old, so I'm always on the lookout for holsters that do secure a gun very well and cover the trigger completely, but are still fairly easy to remove the gun from if needed.

So who all carries at home, and what are some good holster recs?

If you're just going to be carrying in the house and don't care about it being concealed, a shoulder holster could be a convenient option. Depending on what kind of pants you wear around the house, pocket carry could work well for your LCP.

Haven't considered a shoulder holster, so I might look at some of those. The little one knows that the fun and shiny phone is usually in the pocket, so she sometimes tries to dig for that which will probably rule out pocket carry for me though.

I just now thought of this, but a belly band could be a decent option as well, and depending on weapon placement, you can conceal under just a t-shirt, at least well enough for carry around the house and in your yard and such.

Shoulder holster also looks sort of badass if you normally lounge around the house in a crisp white shirt and skinny black tie.

 Ouze wrote:
So... could someone explain this "truck gun" thing? I don't get it exactly. I have a friend from Texas who explained this was common but like, if you need a gun all the time why not a CCW pistol? I'm not crapping on the concept, I legitimately don't understand it.

I think it has something to do with State law. Some States can be finicky about firearms, especially pistols and whether they can be concealed, how the can be concealed, etc. So to get around this when in public some people seem to prefer a long gun as many States do not require a license to own and carry.

Oh yeah, that makes sense. Texas doesn't have open carry for pistols.

 Ouze wrote:
Shoulder holster also looks sort of badass if you normally lounge around the house in a crisp white shirt and skinny black tie.

This made me chuckle a bit but I agree, fashion wise that would look awesome. And IF someone kicked in the door that would be rather intimidating

I was thinking more like a pink t-shirt, shoulder holster and white sports jacket.... With Jan Hammer playing in the background.


Wish I could give you better advice on a convenient way to carry at home while keeping it safe from kids but I don't have kids nor experience with their dynamics.

 Ouze wrote:


So... could someone explain this "truck gun" thing? I don't get it exactly. I have a friend from Texas who explained this was common but like, if you need a gun all the time why not a CCW pistol? I'm not crapping on the concept, I legitimately don't understand it.

Someone will undoubtedly chime in parroting the old phrase, "a handgun is only there so you can fight your way to a rifle," and a rifle in your vehicle is probably closer than a rifle in the safe at home.

It would be hard to justify a truck gun, considering that if you have time to go to your vehicle and retrieve a rifle, you probably should have just left the scene. But, I can think of a few scenarios where that wouldn't be the case especially if you're used to driving in rural areas, if you work for a school in a remote area where response times for police would be expected to be long (> 15 m), things like that.

Usually it's just an excuse to drive around with a rifle in your car though. Only one case springs to mind where a guy actually used a "truck gun" and it wasn't really a "truck gun" per se - it was (IIRC) a post-86 dealer sample machine gun and the guy received a ton of flak for using it, even though it was eventually ruled justifiable.

FWIW on road trips I usually bring a rifle as my carry permit may not be good in that state, and I like having a "nightstand gun."

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Ouze wrote:


So... could someone explain this "truck gun" thing? I don't get it exactly. I have a friend from Texas who explained this was common but like, if you need a gun all the time why not a CCW pistol? I'm not crapping on the concept, I legitimately don't understand it.

Someone will undoubtedly chime in parroting the old phrase, "a handgun is only there so you can fight your way to a rifle," and a rifle in your vehicle is probably closer than a rifle in the safe at home.

It would be hard to justify a truck gun, considering that if you have time to go to your vehicle and retrieve a rifle, you probably should have just left the scene. But, I can think of a few scenarios where that wouldn't be the case especially if you're used to driving in rural areas, if you work for a school in a remote area where response times for police would be expected to be long (> 15 m), things like that.

Usually it's just an excuse to drive around with a rifle in your car though. Only one case springs to mind where a guy actually used a "truck gun" and it wasn't really a "truck gun" per se - it was (IIRC) a post-86 dealer sample machine gun and the guy received a ton of flak for using it, even though it was eventually ruled justifiable.

FWIW on road trips I usually bring a rifle as my carry permit may not be good in that state, and I like having a "nightstand gun."

Yeah, I don't think many real life instances back this up. Most self defense situations happen too fast. I'd feel like keeping a rifle in my car would be a good way of getting it stolen if my car ever got broken into.

Might be another cultural / situation thing.

I use my truck when I'm checking on my farm. Sometimes there are wild dogs or coyotes that threaten livestock that need to be dealt with.

Or sometimes my buddy will be like, "hey want to come over for dinner?" then later "hey want to go hunt some wild pig?" And I don't want to be like "hey I left my rifle at home"....

Yeah this is definitely a city/suburbia vs. rural thing. There's a lot you can use a truck gun for and protecting livestock or snap shooting on a wild hog, or just meeting up with the boys and shooting gak are all perfectly normal things to do.

That's an excellent point. A ranch gun is definitely a solid reason.

If I lived in Alaska I would keep a bear rifle in every vehicle I owned as well!

 d-usa wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
We've had a couple of daylight break-ins in our neighborhood where someone just kicked open the door. We do have an alarm system that is active even when we are home, but I'm starting to think about carrying at home again (don't really carry at home, but I have thought about it).

I do have a handsy 18 month old, so I'm always on the lookout for holsters that do secure a gun very well and cover the trigger completely, but are still fairly easy to remove the gun from if needed.

So who all carries at home, and what are some good holster recs?

If you're just going to be carrying in the house and don't care about it being concealed, a shoulder holster could be a convenient option. Depending on what kind of pants you wear around the house, pocket carry could work well for your LCP.

Haven't considered a shoulder holster, so I might look at some of those. The little one knows that the fun and shiny phone is usually in the pocket, so she sometimes tries to dig for that which will probably rule out pocket carry for me though.

That does make me think a shoulder holster for a phone would be a funny joke item. Not in this case, obviously, just in general. Maybe for a G man halloween costume or something.



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 d-usa wrote:
If I lived in Alaska I would keep a bear rifle in every vehicle I owned as well!

That's just an excuse to get one of these:



(If I had one, I'd really hope I'd never have to fire it. It would have to hurt)

 DarkLink wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
We've had a couple of daylight break-ins in our neighborhood where someone just kicked open the door. We do have an alarm system that is active even when we are home, but I'm starting to think about carrying at home again (don't really carry at home, but I have thought about it).

I do have a handsy 18 month old, so I'm always on the lookout for holsters that do secure a gun very well and cover the trigger completely, but are still fairly easy to remove the gun from if needed.

So who all carries at home, and what are some good holster recs?

If you're just going to be carrying in the house and don't care about it being concealed, a shoulder holster could be a convenient option. Depending on what kind of pants you wear around the house, pocket carry could work well for your LCP.

Haven't considered a shoulder holster, so I might look at some of those. The little one knows that the fun and shiny phone is usually in the pocket, so she sometimes tries to dig for that which will probably rule out pocket carry for me though.

That does make me think a shoulder holster for a phone would be a funny joke item. Not in this case, obviously, just in general. Maybe for a G man halloween costume or something.



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 d-usa wrote:
If I lived in Alaska I would keep a bear rifle in every vehicle I owned as well!

That's just an excuse to get one of these:



(If I had one, I'd really hope I'd never have to fire it. It would have to hurt)

I shot a 500 once. Keyword once. Never again, and especially without the long barrel to act as a counterweight.

So, since moving to a state where it's possible, I've been looking into a carry permit.

I've been rather enamored of the Glock 42, but am also looking very hard at a Ruger LCR in either 38+p or 9mm. Anyone have any experience with the LCR in either caliber and have an opinion?

 Vaktathi wrote:
Anyone have any experience with the LCR in either caliber and have an opinion?

No experience with the LCR. I own the .380 LCP and my dad owns the 9mm LC9, and we are both very happy with them so from a quality standpoint I wouldn't expect anything less from the LCR.

I've carried the LCR .38 for a few years now. It's my most-carried gun. It's just so light and handy to grab on the way out the door, very easy carrying. With the hogue tamer grip it's extremely pleasant to shoot for a snubbie and is quite accurate if you do your part. Had no problems at all with it either. Highly recommended!

 Vaktathi wrote:
So, since moving to a state where it's possible, I've been looking into a carry permit.

I've been rather enamored of the Glock 42, but am also looking very hard at a Ruger LCR in either 38+p or 9mm. Anyone have any experience with the LCR in either caliber and have an opinion?

The LCR yes. My oldest brother has one for carry when it's hot out. I can tell you on the older ones (ie a few years old) the triggers on them is terrible and is hard to hit anything with accuracy. But Ruger just redid them this year and apparently the triggers are just awesome. Hickok45 just did a review on it speaking of. So I'd suggest looking at the redesign because I can tell you the originals have a real clunky trigger

 d-usa wrote:

 DarkLink wrote:

Again, this thread has remained open for so long because we have managed to keep it a "here is this cool gun I own" and "any tips on that gun" and "any thoughts on this ammo vs that ammo" kind of thread.

Keep the politics out.
Keep the "stupid ATF" out.
Keep the "liberals/conservatives" talk out.

This is NOT a political thread, which is why it has been civil with people posting and talking about guns in a friendly and relaxed way despite being on opposite sites during any gun argument involving politics.

No, I am not a MOD. No, I have no actual say about any of this. I'm just trying to make sure we keep on following the self-imposed rules that have kept a gun thread open in the OT for 2+ years now.

Agreed. to bring that pic back on topic:
1. Thats not a rifle, thats an classic antique I've never seen before.
2. Thats not a pistol. Thats a brick
3. That takes arm braces to a dimension I never thought we would go.

 KingCracker wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So, since moving to a state where it's possible, I've been looking into a carry permit.

I've been rather enamored of the Glock 42, but am also looking very hard at a Ruger LCR in either 38+p or 9mm. Anyone have any experience with the LCR in either caliber and have an opinion?

The LCR yes. My oldest brother has one for carry when it's hot out. I can tell you on the older ones (ie a few years old) the triggers on them is terrible and is hard to hit anything with accuracy. But Ruger just redid them this year and apparently the triggers are just awesome. Hickok45 just did a review on it speaking of. So I'd suggest looking at the redesign because I can tell you the originals have a real clunky trigger

That's the first I've heard about bad triggers on an LCR. I got one soon after they first came out and it has a silky smooth pull. It was one of the major selling points of the gun. All the reviews praised it and it's one of the factors that made me choose it. Sure, it's heavy like any other snub, but the travel is smooth.

Thats the new Taurus concealable 40mm revolver!


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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
So I think as soon as I have some spare cash I'm going to grab a Bersa Thunder in .380 for a "formal" gun and a light carry when I need one. It's a PPK clone and has been honed to a fine edge from what I understand from a couple owners.

The Wife has one and a friend had one so comfortable to talk about.
They have a lighter recoil than most 380s because of their size and the sights are really big for their size. They are also very easy to break down to clean.

The negative: they have a tendency to break and can sometimes be very finicky with ammo.

If you like that size I'd also recommend looking at:
Browning just came out with a downsized 1911 thats .380. We have an old Lllama thats that sized and I love it.
Also Colt Mustang and Sig 238 are comparables to also check out.

For the size its not a super small pistol. You might also consider
Walther PPS and S&W Shield for similar size but 9mm.
I've shot the Walther and it is choice! kick is better than the .380 because its a locked breech vs. straight blowback. I'm sure the Shield is the same.




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So... could someone explain this "truck gun" thing? I don't get it exactly. I have a friend from Texas who explained this was common but like, if you need a gun all the time why not a CCW pistol? I'm not crapping on the concept, I legitimately don't understand it.

In my younger post caveman days, it was extremely common to see pickups with a shotgun rack with a beater shotgun, lever action, or if in Houston, a big umbrella.
Its not a CHL situation, its a farming/rural tradition in Texas. In older days all da menz had rifles/shotguns because populations are sparse. When people switched from horses to trucks, they brought their rifle carrying tradition with them. Tooling around the open areas of West or South Texas, you can understand why.


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 d-usa wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
We've had a couple of daylight break-ins in our neighborhood where someone just kicked open the door. We do have an alarm system that is active even when we are home, but I'm starting to think about carrying at home again (don't really carry at home, but I have thought about it).

I do have a handsy 18 month old, so I'm always on the lookout for holsters that do secure a gun very well and cover the trigger completely, but are still fairly easy to remove the gun from if needed.

So who all carries at home, and what are some good holster recs?

If you're just going to be carrying in the house and don't care about it being concealed, a shoulder holster could be a convenient option. Depending on what kind of pants you wear around the house, pocket carry could work well for your LCP.

Haven't considered a shoulder holster, so I might look at some of those. The little one knows that the fun and shiny phone is usually in the pocket, so she sometimes tries to dig for that which will probably rule out pocket carry for me though.

I would be very leery of carrying around the house with a toddler that young for just that reason. You might wait until they are a little older. They get less explory grabby (until their teenagers, then they just wrsetle you down and take your wallet).

 d-usa wrote:
Haven't considered a shoulder holster, so I might look at some of those. The little one knows that the fun and shiny phone is usually in the pocket, so she sometimes tries to dig for that which will probably rule out pocket carry for me though.

Have you considered carrying on an empty chamber instead? If you are worried about home invasions shouldn't the sounds of forced entry give you enough time to chamber a round?