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Does it have an auto-sear or just the 3 position selector? My PTR91 has the selector for the full auto setting, but does not have the auto-sear, and that's perfectly fine. If it does in fact have the auto-sear, I would advise removing some of the text of your post and ensuring that the trigger housing and receiver never get near each other, as there's basically nothing that'll get the ATF in a tizzy more than an illegal machinegun.

That said, HK and HK clones typically have receivers modified in such a way as to prevent successful installation of actual full auto trigger housings, like welding the pushpin hole shut.

I'm not totally sure if I have an auto-sear. Honestly, I never intended to make a full auto. In fact I still don't know if it is or not. I might have to try it out this weekend. I doubt it is, but still makes me uneasy.

I thought that importing non-modified full auto HK trigger groups was illegal. Looks like this one slipped past Century's quality control and that of any import inspector.

The full auto trigger groups are perfectly legal...they're just parts. You can go and pick up full auto trigger packs for post '86 guns like G36's and UMP's, perfectly legal to own, just not attached to a gun that can make use of them. So long as they aren't attached to (or in close proximity such as to be construed as "constructively possessed") a receiver able to accept them. Stuff like drop in auto-sears and lightning links for AR's are a bit different since they require no modification to a receiver (and thus are considered Machineguns in and of themselves), but an ATF approved HK93 import build should not be able to accept an *actual* full auto trigger pack without modification that would require machine tools

looks like I ducked a bullet then. That makes be happy, but also sad at the same time, LOL

Just remember to stay out of trouble

on another note, I got a new toy!



I picked up the lower receiver almost 3 years ago, but only just got around to actually building and putting the thing together in the last couple of weeks. Definitely liking the Magpul plastic rear backup sight.

And the whole collection as it currently stands

Nice collection. I'm going to do the tax stamp to SBR my scorpion in the next month or two

Expect a loooooooong wait time on that with the 41P/F panic, that's what dissuaded me from trying to pick up a suppressor this year

I spent yesterday evening loading some 577/450 ready for my club's Martini-Henry comp on Sunday

I was looking at picking up a .357 revolver. Smith and Wesson is true quality. However, the Chiappa Rhino looks kind of neat. Shooting from the bottom of the cylinder is awesome, but is Chiappa a quality brand?

Ruger, S&W both make good revolvers. The concept is interesting, but I've heard different things about Chiappa. I would research that carefully.

Seeing an internal diagram of the Rhino put me off owning one for carry. fething rube goldberg design in there.

 Frazzled wrote:
Ruger, S&W both make good revolvers.

Indeed. My Ruger Security-Six is probably my favorite handgun out my collection.

Just out of curiosity, I am also looking for a revolver chambered in 45 Long Colt. I all ready have a Taurus Judge, so not that. I'd like it to be double action, without looking like a "cowboy" revolver. In other words, a more modern design. The only thing I've found, with decent quality, is the Ruger Redhawk. Any other suggestions?

I guess I could always just get something chambered in 44 mag and have the cylinder customized.

Rehawk is a very good, strong revolver. This list is pretty exhaustive.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=45+long+colt&x=16&y=13

 Frazzled wrote:
Rehawk is a very good, strong revolver. This list is pretty exhaustive.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=45+long+colt&x=16&y=13

The Redhawk is a good, solid piece.


The Super Redhawk, on the other hand, feels like a block of wood with a grip glued on. I had one in .454 Casull. Ended up trading it after a couple of years.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
Turkish Mausers can be had for less as well, although that might not be what you want for reenacting.

Depends on how much the group you're in looks down on farbing it. Civil War one I'm in it's an extra days drill with the awkward squad for first offense (unless it's glasses).

My group is pretty strict on Mausers. If you're familiar with Wehrmacht arms and equipment a foreign made mauser will stick out like a sore thumb. I'd rather buy right and buy once than lose money by getting farb gear haha.

As a follow up question from a first time gun owner, should I get a weapons safe for the rifle? Even it's converted to fire blanks I'd still like to be responsible.

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
Turkish Mausers can be had for less as well, although that might not be what you want for reenacting.

Depends on how much the group you're in looks down on farbing it. Civil War one I'm in it's an extra days drill with the awkward squad for first offense (unless it's glasses).

My group is pretty strict on Mausers. If you're familiar with Wehrmacht arms and equipment a foreign made mauser will stick out like a sore thumb. I'd rather buy right and buy once than lose money by getting farb gear haha.

As a follow up question from a first time gun owner, should I get a weapons safe for the rifle? Even it's converted to fire blanks I'd still like to be responsible.

Depends a lot on your situation. Every have kids in your house? If yes, a gun safe ensures they can't get access to it. Worried about it being stolen? If yes, a gun safe makes it less likely a guy breaking in to your house/apartment can't get it. If no to both, frankly if it was me I would not bother with the cost. I would keep in in a gun case in a closet, maybe put a lock on the case.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
As a follow up question from a first time gun owner, should I get a weapons safe for the rifle? Even it's converted to fire blanks I'd still like to be responsible.

I keep my longer guns - they're pretty short, a folding stock AK and an AR pistol - in a locked filing cabinet. My pistols are locked in a pistol safe that is bolted to said filing cabinet.

If you have kids then I absolutely would urge you to get a gun safe. I know that some people here swear their kids know better and so on, and I'm not pissing on them, but even if your kids know better their friends visiting might not and why take a chance?

Austin with the kids and their friends. Most are in a locked cabinet. A few are in quick open safes in two locations.

Houston which is just me and the mountain dog, loaded 870 in the bedroom (which can double as a pike its so long) and Mom's old pistol in the den by the chair I sit in.

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
Turkish Mausers can be had for less as well, although that might not be what you want for reenacting.

Depends on how much the group you're in looks down on farbing it. Civil War one I'm in it's an extra days drill with the awkward squad for first offense (unless it's glasses).

My group is pretty strict on Mausers. If you're familiar with Wehrmacht arms and equipment a foreign made mauser will stick out like a sore thumb. I'd rather buy right and buy once than lose money by getting farb gear haha.

As a follow up question from a first time gun owner, should I get a weapons safe for the rifle? Even it's converted to fire blanks I'd still like to be responsible.

I would. I have two fire-resistant Browning safes. Both are big, heavy, and bolted to the floor and frame. Best three grand I ever spent.


Because theft and unauthorized access aren't the only concerns. Fire is another. And fire-resistant safes will protect your weapons to a point if a fire breaks out (it depends on the temperature of the fire).


There are also cheaper options for fire-resistant safes on the market for the budget consumer. You just have to shop around.

I don't know. Blowing 1k+ on a safe to protect one blank firing rifle doesn't pass my common sense test.

If you are worried about children and guns, and only own bolt-action rifles, there is an alternative. Simply remove the bolt assembly and lock that up in a small safe.

What's left of the gun is basically a pipe, and can not fire anything. The worst they could do is drop it on their foot.

When all I owned was a .22 rifle, I used to remove the bolt from it and keep it behind my bed with a trigger lock (it was $2 with the gun). Even if my 2 year old found it, it was little more than a club at that point. You'd have to remove the lock to reassemble it.

OK, round comparison. I am looking at the Precision still. Whats the general difference plusses and negatives between
6.5 Creedmore
.243
.308
This is what I know currently
.308 is a fairly common, relatively inexpensive, fairly dependable round. Its accuracy does fall off greatly past 1000m from what I have read

6.5 is a newer round, a bit more expensive and uncommon to buy. Extremely accurate out past 1000m and seems to be becoming one of the more common long range competition rounds.

.243 a good hunting round. Least expensive of the three and fairly common. But I know next to nothing on ranged accuracy on it.

So please enlighten me further. Hopefully someone knows something about the .243

What round will be available during a Clinton Bullet Bubble for two years. That should factor into your calculation.

Indeed - we've left politics out of this thread and I'd love to continue doing so but we need to go on the presumption that there will be panic buying even if the new POTUS does pretty much nothing on guns.

In that vein, I think .243, and .308 are probably safe.

I can't speak to the ballistic performance which is what I think you really want.

Indeed I only mention as part of the buying decision.
I agree on .243. If 30.06 was represented I'd go with that. I like the good old .308 but am wondering if that will be impacted. if so, make purchases now.

The latest Q and A video from Inrange TV was an interesting and insightful watch. Very enjoyable.

Think this'd make it past the import boards?



Technically its still a machine gun...

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Think this'd make it past the import boards?



Technically its still a machine gun...

To quote John Oliver "Holy sh**!"