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 balsak_da_mighty wrote:
I am honestly wondering if the re molded the Crisis suits like they did with the speeders a couple years back. Maybe they have joints or something now for more possiblity. Kinda like what the rumors said early on. It would make them a bit better as far as that goes. I personally never had a problem with the look of them, just the lack of possibility.

Hopefully the common crisis suit molding errors such as the head-top crater and the curving away jetpack parts are gone

From http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?364126-Tau-rumours/page46 (as were the previous pictures I posted)

Battleforce contains:
12 FW
3 Crisis Suits
3 Stealth Suits
1 Piranha

+ drones

... That has to be fake. It looks like the battle force actually saves a good chunk of money.

Snufflesms wrote:


From http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?364126-Tau-rumours/page46 (as were the previous pictures I posted)

Battleforce contains:
12 FW
3 Crisis Suits
3 Stealth Suits
1 Piranha

+ drones

Very interesting choice of units. Remove the Dfish and Kroot, add 2 battlesuits and a Piranha. I wonder if that's an indication of something...maybe no Kroot in the codex, cause I haven't seen a single bird man yet.

Not bad. That is a real deal right there. Depends on the models abilities(Im hoping Stealth suits get a boost)
for 130$
I might have to pick that up after the flyer and the riptide.

So Free Piranha or discounted stuff and free stealth suits. It's not a great deal but it isn't horrible.

Oh geeze 130 usd? i suppose it depends on what they did to the phirana and the ss

Yeah. Though they'd be something like $170 seperately, I think. $75 for the suits + $35 for the FW + about $30 for the Piranha and $30 for the Stealth Suits.

 Hulksmash wrote:
So Free Piranha or discounted stuff and free stealth suits. It's not a great deal but it isn't horrible.

Well now its not, But we dont know what they changed to suits to do. for all we know, SS would be amazing.
BUT, Anyone notice the SS colors scheme, same as the sept. Kinda odd.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Anyone notice the SS colors scheme, same as the sept. Kinda odd.

Well they did get rid of the paint color to do it the same as last time. (which was a mix in it self) probably just to not confuse new players

I really like the battleforce contents, although I have no idea what will be good in the new codex. I could see picking up a few of these to form the backbone of a new Tau force.

Well, looks like NewSides are definitely moving to more of a fire support role as opposed to a strict heavy armor killer. Multiple SMS is an interesting idea, depends on the S/AP though as to whether it'll be worth it. Missile pod drones = excellent, IMO.

New Pathfinder box looks good, be interested to see what the extra drones do.

Riptide looks excellent, even though I'm probably not going to field one - want a more mobile army.

Flyers look... good, to me at least. Not a fan of the little support struts, but we'll see. Looking forward to more details on how well they perform.

No real look at how Hammerheads and Devilfish have changed, so guess we're still in the dark on that one.

 Savageconvoy wrote:
I can't believe the Broadside is $50. That's insane. Now I apparently need to get bigger bas.... Wait... It's on the MC base? So I can't fit it onto a Bastion anymore?

Welcome to Australian prices. We've had to pay $50 for a broadside for years now. It was even more when they shifted it to finecast.

I saw on another forum where some guy was claiming the Tau flyers are going to be broken, even compared to the Heldrake apparently.

I did just notice that the Tau flyers seem to have air defense drones.


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Apparently the reason why it has the raised back section is to fit two special weapons. The fighter has some kind of ion battery while the bomber drops the plasma corrosion bombs from the old skyray rumor. And apparently the bomber can hit a unit each turn and the effects stay with each unit for the rest of the game.

 Snrub wrote:

 Savageconvoy wrote:
I can't believe the Broadside is $50. That's insane. Now I apparently need to get bigger bas.... Wait... It's on the MC base? So I can't fit it onto a Bastion anymore?

Welcome to Australian prices. We've had to pay $50 for a broadside for years now. It was even more when they shifted it to finecast.

I'm expecting the XV104 to be Australian Land Raider prices (ie, 119+ dollars)

 Savageconvoy wrote:
I saw on another forum where some guy was claiming the Tau flyers are going to be broken, even compared to the Heldrake apparently.

I did just notice that the Tau flyers seem to have air defense drones.

flyers have been broken since the beginning, regardless. they should have had flyers be only available in over a certain amount of points or just not in standard play. They have made the game very boring and one sided for those without. Im happy tau is finally getting theirs and dont care what it looks like because i convert EVERYthing.

Everyone QQing over design of the new tau, should be thankful they are even doing an update lol. Im happy crisis suits didnt get a new model, it means i can use and not have buy new ones, and it means i can spend cash on the new stuff, not replacing old stuff. My biggest fear right now is kroot being gone/not seen, as i have an entire 1500/3000 points army converted to be Kroot/alien.


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it reminds me of those videos you see, parents buy a kid a car and they cry its the wrong colour or year.

if ya dont like the models, dont buy em and dont play em. Cost is whole other rage fest everyone can get behind lol.

Now what scares me is that this is...what...4 40k codexes and 2 supplements released in the space of 6 months?

That's impressive.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Now what scares me is that this is...what...4 40k codexes and 2 supplements released in the space of 6 months?

That's impressive.

They did say they'd be taking a different approach to releases in 6th. Maybe by that they meant they might actually update all of their gak.

Pathfinders will be good rules wise, since they are not in battle force box... Pirahnas will be crap, for the opposite reason. And they would compete with the new superflier put out there. Too bad, since I have 5 of them.

And you can probably take pathfinders in groups of 12, seeing as how the box comes with only 10.

I guess I'm in the minority but the Riptide looks absolutely atrocious to me. It is literally just an upscaled XV-8; no imagination. The same goes for the flyer and how it is just a blown up TX-42. At least the Broadside is going in the right direction with a more sniper look, let's just hope the rules are better than rumored and that you (somehow) get $50 worth of kit from it.

So four actually new kits with (in my opinion) two being uninspired rubbish, one being sexy but overpriced, leaves only the plastic Pathfinders being the only clear winner at this point.

I've never been so excited to create high-quality proxies for Tau units as I am now.

Omfg... the Riptide does look like Saturn from Borderlands 2.

That Battleforce is really worth it when compared to the rest of the stuff with its huge prices.

Shocked at some prices tbh.

I love the look of the new things except the flyer, that is kind of 'meh' to me. The battleforce also implies, atleast to me, that one of those units will be changed to troops (here's hoping for scoring stealth suits!).

my only concerns will be my wallet and possibly having to rename my tau commander >.>

 SonicPara wrote:
I hope they aren't seriously entertaining the thought of having only a single unit with greater than S8 shooting in a Tau codex.

Wouldn't there still be Piranhas, Crisis suits and Stealth suits all with the potential to carry fusion guns?

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 SonicPara wrote:
I hope they aren't seriously entertaining the thought of having only a single unit with greater than S8 shooting in a Tau codex.

Wouldn't there still be Piranhas, Crisis suits and Stealth suits all with the potential to carry fusion guns?

Single ranged unit. The army with the worst vulnerability to assault should not be forced to use melta for everything.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Wouldn't there still be Piranhas, Crisis suits and Stealth suits all with the potential to carry fusion guns?

Those are also still S8, just with the added stipulation that you have to effectively kill yourself in order to threaten heavy armor. Unacceptable when everyone is bringing oogles of cheap/free S8 along with S9 on almost every platform or special rules like lance.

I'm not a negative person, I don't like how these rumors (and now models) are making me feel. I sincerely hope that I am as wrong as humanly possible and this update isn't the biggest load of bollocks since 5th ed. Tyranids.

Of course there will be a HQ that will make crisis suits troops. How else could they sell more of them, if they are not updating them?

To be fair, lack of S9+ weapons isn't as crippling as it used to be. As long as there's enough S8 to go around (like Light Railguns and Seeker missiles), AV14 can be brought down via hullpoints, and AV13 and under is failr easy to neutralize the same way, if you can't seem to roll well on the damage table. It's hard, but it seems this edition GW wants AV14 and 2+ saves to mean something again.

Did anybody else notice that there are 10 Pathfinders in the box, and what appear to be 3 Drones?
I'm kinda worried about larger PF squads. I feel like they're compensating for taking something away... like maybe fewer of them get Markerlights.
If, according to new rules, fewer of them NEED Markerlights, then why make the squad bigger? Smells fishy to me....

I'm very excited for a new codex. Looks like I can continue work on my XV8s. I think I'm generally okay with everything I'm seeing here.

 SonicPara wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Wouldn't there still be Piranhas, Crisis suits and Stealth suits all with the potential to carry fusion guns?

Those are also still S8, just with the added stipulation that you have to effectively kill yourself in order to threaten heavy armor. Unacceptable when everyone is bringing oogles of cheap/free S8 along with S9 on almost every platform or special rules like lance.

That is the whole point of the fluff imo.

For The Greater Good.

 Archonate wrote:
Did anybody else notice that there are 10 Pathfinders in the box, and what appear to be 3 Drones?
I'm kinda worried about larger PF squads. I feel like they're compensating for taking something away... like maybe fewer of them get Markerlights.
If, according to new rules, fewer of them NEED Markerlights, then why make the squad bigger? Smells fishy to me....

Because, moving to plastic, they want to utilize as much of the sprue as possible? Which just happened to mean more Pathfinders made it into the box?