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Wait, Overwatch At ballistic Skill? With marker lights
Ohh i cant wait.

 AndrewC wrote:
The overwatch option is going to be literal murder to get through. Esp linked with nearby units.

I would like to see the complete rules, and will do when I buy the codex.

But, on a quick tally vs one unit, move assault unit up to charge range, which would likely be Tau RF range. 24 shots (assuming 12 pr) Charge, take 24 overwatch shots*, tau consolidate out of range, take 24 shots again then charge into a further 24 shots before engagement.

So thats 48 shots at BS3 and 48 shots at BS1 for app 32 hits. Could you use a deathstar against that? I would say that if you want to assault Tau, you will have to hit the entire line all at once, there's no half hearted measures against that.

Cheers

Andrew

* I never realised that overwatch allowed full RoF. Or at least according to P20 it does, has it changed anywhere?

One quick way to get around that that jumps to mind right away is dirge casters for CSM vehicles. It won't allow Tau to get their overwatch and in theory, no consolidation either.

Samurai_Eduh wrote:
One quick way to get around that that jumps to mind right away is dirge casters for CSM vehicles. It won't allow Tau to get their overwatch and in theory, no consolidation either.

I don't know that rule, what is it? And until we see the codex, we don't know what the Tau special rule is, I am merely (wildly) speculating.

Cheers

Andrew

Ok..my converters mind is all aglow with possiblities for the flyer and the riptide, well mainly the flyer.

First off, I will reverse the angle of the tailfins, going up in a V instead of down in a V, will have to see what the purose of the struts from the front serve, but will likely remove them or at very least shorten them.

Riptide..hmmm may bulk out the Head/sensor array (since thats all it is anyway), liked what another poster suggested about using the C3 pathfinder drone as a head susitute.
Ankles will be a easy fix, since I have been doing that on all Tau battlesuits anyway, a small section of circular plastic and place it around any ball joint the model may have..but will need to actually check out the model.

Now I know most people want everything perfect out the door, and I can appreciate that, I have just gotten into the habit of convering just about everything tau, so this is SOP for me.

Will be happy to post a step by step of any conversions I do.

Cant wait to get started

Samurai_Eduh wrote:
One quick way to get around that that jumps to mind right away is dirge casters for CSM vehicles. It won't allow Tau to get their overwatch and in theory, no consolidation either.

Ha! as if a rhino with a dirge caster would ever made it that far across the field against my Tau army.

Dirge casters are a 5 pt vehicle upgrade that denies overwatch for any enemy unit within 6" of the vehicle.

6in you say. LEts see. The Marines come out, can assualt because they just got a vehicle. My tau comeout and shoot the lot of them, then the vehicle gets shot to death .

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
6in you say. LEts see. The Marines come out, can assualt because they just got a vehicle. My tau comeout and shoot the lot of them, then the vehicle gets shot to death .

Against Tau, this would only really stand a chance of success if you used a Land Raider. Drive the Raider up, guys jump out. Then, move the raider flat out in the shooting pahse to get it within 6" of the Tau line. Any other vehicle with less AV stands a good chance of becoming scrap against our mighty fish guns!

 Jayden63 wrote:
I don't exactly know why, but I think the disk top of the recon drone might just make a good Riptide head. its sleek enough not to destroy the height profile, yet looks like it has enough size, lights, cameras, etc. to do the job.

Sounds like a good solution, similar to these conversions:




Oh, and here another cheaper alternative to the Broadside:

I didnt know Alpha Joined the greater good.

Yeah... I don't think my Deathwing will have trouble against Tau. Drop Belial blob T1 and Raider rush the rest in.

If the Tau don't take out the blob, they will be in trouble.

Samurai_Eduh wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
6in you say. LEts see. The Marines come out, can assualt because they just got a vehicle. My tau comeout and shoot the lot of them, then the vehicle gets shot to death .

Against Tau, this would only really stand a chance of success if you used a Land Raider. Drive the Raider up, guys jump out. Then, move the raider flat out in the shooting phase to get it within 6" of the Tau line. Any other vehicle with less AV stands a good chance of becoming scrap against our mighty fish guns!

Not even this really works. pg79 says that is you move the tank then disembark, the tank is not allowed to move again the rest of the turn.

I hope the Forgeworld Barracuda will make for a good counts-as on the new flyers, because I don't like them.

I also think the Forgeworld crisis suits are better since the GW ones haven't been re-designed, and i don't like them.

In fact, I think Forgeworld should fire up their burners in anticipation.

LOOK AT DEM!!!!!
http://warhammer-tau-army.blogspot.co.uk/

theninjabadger wrote:
LOOK AT DEM!!!!!
http://warhammer-tau-army.blogspot.co.uk/

You mean the same pictures that were already posted? Yep, we've seen them.

Way to drum up traffic for your site though.

 pretre wrote:

theninjabadger wrote:
LOOK AT DEM!!!!!
http://warhammer-tau-army.blogspot.co.uk/

You mean the same pictures that were already posted? Yep, we've seen them.

Way to drum up traffic for your site though.

Not my site but they were so awesome they had to be reposted so im gonna restart my tau now XD

The Riptide is looking like a very cool and customisable kit from these pictures.

Huh weapons seem to be interchangable.
Im going to have to get ALOT of magnets though.

Samurai_Eduh wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
6in you say. LEts see. The Marines come out, can assualt because they just got a vehicle. My tau comeout and shoot the lot of them, then the vehicle gets shot to death .

Against Tau, this would only really stand a chance of success if you used a Land Raider. Drive the Raider up, guys jump out. Then, move the raider flat out in the shooting pahse to get it within 6" of the Tau line. Any other vehicle with less AV stands a good chance of becoming scrap against our mighty fish guns!

Yep, rhinos would generally get popped before someone could assault. Land raiders and other vehicles (including Defilers) can also purchase this. Using vehicles as mobile cover to block LOS or rushing a vehicle to cover a different unit from overwatch are likely better choices. Rushing rhinos on an open field against tau sounds like a recipe for disaster.

 Harriticus wrote:
Uggggh why couldn't they just give the Riptide a decent head. GW had to screw it up somehow.

I dunno. Looks perfect to me.

Looks like a guy in a giant robot suit.

If you try to project an anthropomorphic image onto it (i.e it IS a giant robot) then yes, the head is way too small.

I am sure aftermarket vendors (paulson, chapterhouse, etc.) will make new heads....just as they do now.

NOTE: I am not disagreeing that it is small for the body - it is. I am merely saying that it depends upon a person's perspective and expectation on what they feel about it.

 Medium of Death wrote:
The Riptide is looking like a very cool and customisable kit from these pictures.

Spoiler:

That one in the big picture is taking a knee.

Let that sink in...

Big model, taking a knee.

If that's possible I may just have to have my one standing one foot on a wrecked Dreadnought or other vehicle. Might be a bit more stable that way.

Couldn't see any rumours about Stealth Suits being moved to troops. Was there any indication that this is to be the case?

It's a shame it's looking like there won't be an option to make crisis suits troops.

Well part of it is the fact that the SS are now in the Battleforce, but only one otherr known troop is.

That flier looks excellent. Can't wait to see how my buddy paints his up.

Expect it to be delayed a bit, the new Dark Angels was meant to be released in Dec just before Xmas, but delayed to Jan.

LALALALALA *Sticks fingers in ears*
I cant hear you LALALALA

 TechmarineNic wrote:
Expect it to be delayed a bit, the new Dark Angels was meant to be released in Dec just before Xmas, but delayed to Jan.

Nope. These pictures are from the WD that will come out in the next 10 days. This means Tau pre-order on March 30th and general release on April 6th. This has been the patter for the last 6 months.

The more pictures that come out the more that the Riptide looks like what Rob Liefeld would draw if given the task to draw some Tau suits. Huge chest and arms with everything else hilariously out of proportion.

New Pathfinders look great and more and more seem like the only worthwhile new plastic kit.

New Farsight is great too but prepare for a high price due to finecast.

So, new drones:

Pulse Accelerator Drone (probably buffs pulse rifles)
Grav-enhancer(?) Drone (probably decreases charge ranges)
Recon Drone (slots into Devilfish)
Shielded Missile Drone (appears to be a Shield Drone with a Missile Pod, potentially unique to Riptide)
Two new indeterminate types of large drone mounted on the Flyers

I have only one complaint I hate the name Riptide. When did anyone ever think that sounds like a Tau sort of a name. really anything else could have been better.

From this point on I think I'll be calling it Supasuit, sounds better than Riptide!