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 Ledabot wrote:

Pottsey wrote:

 Ledabot wrote:
Anybody looked at Sanctuary of Wyrms? I'm amazed that 3 tau books have come out now, when there were none before.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/sanctuary-of-wyrms-ebook.html

Isn’t 5 books recently but two of them have little Tau in. Firecast and The Greater Good are barely really Tau books.

I did forget about the greater good. Actually, I didn't even know it existed until I searched black library for it.

In total, there appear to be 7 books at have tau in them. Of those, only 4 are from a tau point of view. I admit I did forget firewarrior ( I thought it was just a game. :p) but that leaves 3 which I was talking about. shadowsun, sanctuary of Wyrms and Advent Day Twenty-Two: Out Caste. The last is quite obscure. A short story more than a book.

Greater Good wasnt that bad, and it really isnt a Tau perspective, BUT it is about the oddball adventures of Ciaphas Cain trying to negotiate with Tau during a Tyranid invasion, so in reality its an extremely awesome (esp considering I read it when it first came out and I still remember some of it now! thats an accomplishment for any novel).

Is anyone else wondering if this release will finally provoke Forge World into putting out the revised tau update?

I still have the old one they did in 2012 for 5th ed and they updated all the vehicles on the vehicle update they did for 6th ed.

I'm eager to see how tetras stack up to the new pathfinders.

Also laughing at broadsides, while the new one looks cool, it's size and price makes it mass deployable prohibitive. I'm going to enjoy fielding a force of mostly forgeworld broadsides with maybe 1 or 2 of the new ones. I have a full setup of XV9s and XV89s to swap and adjust parts, I'm also planning on converting a couple of XV81s into jury rigged into broadsides.

Not sure if I want to go all out with the farsight enclave shoulderpads, I may just save them to mark out my Shas'ui. Right now I had plans on doing pads that had removed the tau sept marking and were just flush armor.

Mostly I'm just hoping that the Farsight enclave fluff didn't change that much. I got this great red/red/gray camo scheme instead of doing just flat red and a nice mix of XV89, XV9 (with standard weapons) and a couple XV8-04 (Shas'O R'Myr) for my crisis contingent.

Biggest thing I'm concerned about is how to convert a baracuda into a sunshark or razorshark. Still can't stand the look of the two new ones.

Photon grenades and blind - now there's an idea. Imagine a pathfinder team lobbing a flash bang at an enemy unit followe up by a Kroot squad charging in to take advantage of the stunned enemy. There's some kau'yon and mont'ka for you.

 generalchaos34 wrote:

 Ledabot wrote:

Pottsey wrote:

 Ledabot wrote:
Anybody looked at Sanctuary of Wyrms? I'm amazed that 3 tau books have come out now, when there were none before.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/sanctuary-of-wyrms-ebook.html

Isn’t 5 books recently but two of them have little Tau in. Firecast and The Greater Good are barely really Tau books.

I did forget about the greater good. Actually, I didn't even know it existed until I searched black library for it.

In total, there appear to be 7 books at have tau in them. Of those, only 4 are from a tau point of view. I admit I did forget firewarrior ( I thought it was just a game. :p) but that leaves 3 which I was talking about. shadowsun, sanctuary of Wyrms and Advent Day Twenty-Two: Out Caste. The last is quite obscure. A short story more than a book.

Greater Good wasnt that bad, and it really isnt a Tau perspective, BUT it is about the oddball adventures of Ciaphas Cain trying to negotiate with Tau during a Tyranid invasion, so in reality its an extremely awesome (esp considering I read it when it first came out and I still remember some of it now! thats an accomplishment for any novel).

I do not agree as not only did I find it the worst of the entire Cain story’s but it was not what it was sold as. The first few chapters started really good but to me it all went wrong shortly after arriving at the Forgeworld. The Tau pretty much vanished from the book right at the around chapter 8 bar a few minor references to a Tau diplomat. The front cover was a lie as firewarriors had vanished from the story long before the Tyranid’s showed up. Even the back cover text was misleading with most of the book taking place on a different planet. With little to do with negotiatetion with Tau or the planet mentioned.
In short the title, front and back cover are all very misleading.

Alabaster.clown wrote:

I can't take my 2500 points and play against current flyer spam and stand a snowballs chance in hell without investing more money on new models. Can you? Is my original point valid?

In 6th edition, I've actually been having a reasonably good time playing tau against modern lists. You should try it.

Regarding the last post I made from russ29 on ATT, here's The Dude from Warseer.

The Dude on Warseer
I have been told these Warlord Trait rumours are accurate, although it could be worded as though only Commanders and Ethereals get to roll on the Tau-specific table (Fireblades or whatever presumably use only the Rulebook ones).

Farsight apparently gets the no-scatter on Deepstrike, and Shadowsun gets the 3d6 Jetpack move.

Apparently some results are only able to be taken by Infantry, and others only by Jetpacks. If you get the wrong result, you re-roll.

Kroot supposedly DON'T get Furious Charge, just Stealth (woods) and Move Through Cover.

Kroot Hounds are apparently Beasts (the unit type). How this affects their ability to enter Transports or Buildings remains to be seen.

Sorry Kroothawk. I'm injured and surfing the web the past two days. That, and I'm actually excited about a GW release!

For those who took Spanish in high school, here are some pics:
http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11167664-rumores-tau/

Assault 4 burst cannons!!!!! Yes!!!!

 tetrisphreak wrote:
For those who took Spanish in high school, here are some pics:
http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11167664-rumores-tau/

Assault 4 burst cannons!!!!! Yes!!!!

i may not be able to read that but there is alot of good info.

FINALLY, solid info!

Thanks a million, tetrisphreak.

Cataclysm is a far better name than Riptide.

Though a little light on armor the new Tau fighter/gunship looks impressive for weapons based on those scans. Switch out the burst cannon for the misses and you can throw out 6 Str.7 attacks at other flyers at 30inches, not too bad for a true 6th flyer.

Durrr.

Fire Warrior at 9p Pulse Rifle still 30"
Kroot at 6p but with standart 6+
Kroot sniper?
Devilfish at 80p

Does not seem awefully different, waiting for the english codex to appear somewhere for the details^^

Also broadsides are now indeed s8ap1 but 60"

 Rented Tritium wrote:

Alabaster.clown wrote:

I can't take my 2500 points and play against current flyer spam and stand a snowballs chance in hell without investing more money on new models. Can you? Is my original point valid?

In 6th edition, I've actually been having a reasonably good time playing tau against modern lists. You should try it.

Me too, altho to be fair no one i know owns more than two flyers. And the last time i played a game as big as 2,5k was last ed 1500 seems to be way more popular nowadays.

Very nice to see the range weapon table!

Sobrecarga on an ion-head sounds nice..

hmmm riptide , MC, T6, W5 and BS3...gw giveth and taketh away.

but the hammer head still has a BS of 4 at least

corrected for bad vision!

SMS is cheaper for Devilfish. and BC is S5/AP5 Assault 4.

From the Spanish site:

Crisis Squads start with 1 Shas'ui and two basic suits can be bought for +22 points each.

Shas'vre upgrade for the Shas'ui for 10 pts.

Each suit may chose up to two drones.

Did anyone else notice that the Rifle de induccion de largo alcance (Rail Rilfe) is going to be a Str X AP 5 Sniper, Rapid Fire. I think I like that more then the old Rail Rifle, glad I just got 3 Teams for Sniper Drones.

Syradin wrote:
Did anyone else notice that the Rifle de induccion de largo alcance (Rail Rilfe) is going to be a Str X AP 5 Sniper, Rapid Fire. I think I like that more then the old Rail Rifle, glad I just got 3 Teams for Sniper Drones.

Why would Str X AP 5 Sniper be better than S6 AP 3?

Other surprises, sniper drones are now sniper, AP5 I believe. Snipipers drones also don't seem limited to just one control/3 drones anymore either.

Skyfire upgrade for broadsides is pretty darn cheap at 8pts.

Kroot snipers (o.0) are cheap and seem pretty good. Also kroot broods in general seem malleable and customizable.

Drones seem plentiful and seem to be customizable as well for any unit that can take them.

Bombers seem to be anti-horde only with their bomb blast being str.5 ap5.

Cyclonic ion blaster seems very good for the price.

Farsight can still take his mob of suits.

More from the Spanish site:

Stealth Suits start at 3 suits for 90pts. You can add another 3 for 30 pts each. One in three can take a fusion blaster for 5 pts.

Each can have bonding knives for 1 pt?

One can have up to two drones.

Have infiltrate special rule.

from what i can see fireblades are are one per slot.

 pretre wrote:

Syradin wrote:
Did anyone else notice that the Rifle de induccion de largo alcance (Rail Rilfe) is going to be a Str X AP 5 Sniper, Rapid Fire. I think I like that more then the old Rail Rifle, glad I just got 3 Teams for Sniper Drones.

Why would Str X AP 5 Sniper be better than S6 AP 3?

Because they are sniper weapons, meaning wounds on a 4+ on everything, can be rending, does pinning and can pick out their targets. That makes them more then just MEQ killers.

More from the Spanish site:

Fire Warriors:

6 for 54 pts, up to 6 more for 9pts each.

15pts for Shas'ui markerlight.

Shas'ui can take 2 drones.

EM grenades cost 2pts each.

Bonding knive/ritual 1pt each.

Anyone notice the 18" fusion blaster and Neutron Blaster???

whoa, Is that just me or are rail rifles actually ap1 rapidfire 30" now? THAT is interesting. Rifle Accelerador, right next to Rifle Accelerador Pesado (broadside railgun).

More from the Spanish site:

Burst Cannon: 18" S5 AP5, Assult 4

Heavy Burst Cannon:

Normal fire mode: 36" S6 AP4, Heavy 8
Nova Charge: Same except Heavy 12, Gets Hot

Samurai_Eduh wrote:
More from the Spanish site:

Fire Warriors:

6 for 54 pts, up to 6 more for 9pts each.

15pts for Shas'ui markerlight.

Shas'ui can take 2 drones.

EM grenades cost 2pts each.

Bonding knive/ritual 1pt each.

This I don't like.

Woah, my sources weren't far off.

At Heavy 12, you're going to roll some ones, but do you get an armour save from gets hot?