New Tau Codex - April 6'th [Pics, Video and Prices in OP]

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**KhornateCake**

Lobukia wrote:
KhornateCake wrote:
-Ion Rifles, Strength 7 AP 4 Rapid fire, or Strength 8 AP 4 (Heavy 1 Pinning)

Is that what the bomber drones carry?

I'm assuming the Patherfinders, at the moment not sure.

**Lysenis**

Samurai_Eduh wrote:
Lysenis wrote:
Savageconvoy wrote:
So no targetting arrays? That's great. It's not like that would make Pathfinders an even bigger target if an opponent was looking to cause an army wide crippling affect.
So far from the looks of things, everyone can get Markerlights but the +1BS does not stack.

Umm...yes it does, actually. The scans say that for each ML expended by the unit it gets +1 BS. Nowhere does it say you are limited to just one.

I am going off the discussion a few pages back concerning this. If we can get the English RAW then we shall see. I dont care if I am wrong in this it just means that those ML drones are going to be even better in situations when you overwatch with them.

**Rustgob**

Any sign of Stealthsuits or Gun Drone Squadrons for Troops?

It's something that'll make or break my interest in Tau.

**Samurai_Eduh**

KhornateCake wrote:
Lobukia wrote:
KhornateCake wrote:
-Ion Rifles, Strength 7 AP 4 Rapid fire, or Strength 8 AP 4 (Heavy 1 Pinning)

Is that what the bomber drones carry?

I'm assuming the Patherfinders, at the moment not sure.

Yes, from what I saw in the Spanish scans, pathfinders and the bomber drones.

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Rustgob wrote:
Any sign of Stealthsuits or Gun Drone Squadrons for Troops?

It's something that'll make or break my interest in Tau.

So far, looks like no for both. Only troops I saw were kroot and firewarriors.

**TheDraconicLord**

Therion wrote:
I...I...Can we be best friends?

If that thing can buy FNP too like someone said it seems to be pretty strong for 200 ish points. Due to the 2+ save and FNP it won't be easy to take out with no AP high rate of fire/high strength weapons, and due to possible cover saves and the reactor invulnerable it isn't an attractive target for low AP weapons either.

Confirmed. They may take up to 2 "Support Systems". One of them gives FNP rule

**hotsauceman1**

Ap 4? on flying drones?
Hmm, goodby warrior squads behind aegis.

**RogueRegault**

Savageconvoy wrote:
Prodigalson wrote:

The only thing I am not liking is that there appears to be no way (so far) to get the Ripdie a BS of 4. It may have great guns, and be defensive, but if it can't shoot straight, who cares. The Tyranofex is awesome as well, but misses 1/2 the time. You are going to have to use markerlights to guide the shots in to make it work it appears.

Earth Caste Engineer: This is the new suit, our most perfect creation. It's loaded with the most advanced systems and weaponry available to the empire.
Fire Caste Commander: How accurate is it?
Earth Caste Engineer: Like a newly hatched Gaunt!
Fire Caste Commander: *sheds a single tear of admiration* Then it truly is our most powerful weapon.

am I the only one hoping that the new canon shows that Earth Caste is full of jerks that purposefully make confusing control systems, like inverting the y-stick, just to make Suits have terrible BS stats?

What can be confusing about a giant robot's control systems? You stomp on the pedal, push the lever on the right forward, and yell.

**Lysenis**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ap 4? on flying drones?
Hmm, goodby warrior squads behind aegis.

So is the bomber STILL pointless? The Fighter does not get these drones from what we have heard.

**hotsauceman1**

The bomber may or may not be pointless.
Although, I might take a Fighter. especially if i can fire behind.

**Lysenis**

RogueRegault wrote:
Savageconvoy wrote:
Prodigalson wrote:

The only thing I am not liking is that there appears to be no way (so far) to get the Ripdie a BS of 4. It may have great guns, and be defensive, but if it can't shoot straight, who cares. The Tyranofex is awesome as well, but misses 1/2 the time. You are going to have to use markerlights to guide the shots in to make it work it appears.

Earth Caste Engineer: This is the new suit, our most perfect creation. It's loaded with the most advanced systems and weaponry available to the empire.
Fire Caste Commander: How accurate is it?
Earth Caste Engineer: Like a newly hatched Gaunt!
Fire Caste Commander: *sheds a single tear of admiration* Then it truly is our most powerful weapon.

am I the only one hoping that the new canon shows that Earth Caste is full of jerks that purposefully make confusing control systems, like inverting the y-stick, just to make Suits have terrible BS stats?

What can be confusing about a giant robot's control systems? You stomp on the pedal, push the lever on the right forward, and yell.

You forgot the whole reticile thing. The metal on that suposedly is where the gun will shoot. . . we hope. . .

**Hulksmash**

If the drones really have interceptor then there is a nice chance at being able shoot down enemy flyers when they come on. It'll also be the first non-fortification interceptor model in standard 40k.

Overall pretty pleased with what's been thrown out. I'm looking foward to spending saturday with my nose in a book.

**Veskrashen**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
The bomber may or may not be pointless.
Although, I might take a Fighter. especially if i can fire behind.

The Ion turret it gets is 360. So yeah, you can fire backwards, or sideways , or whatever... so it's totally feasible to get into the rear arc of Vendettas and pump 6 S7 shots into their rear armor 10.

Oh, and since it carries a pair of Seekers, there's other off-angle Seeker Shenanigans you can pull. Run one into the rear arc of a couple Necron barges, for instance, then use markerlights to toss seekers into rear armor 10, getting the pen you need to drop their Quantum Shielding. You can even do that while popping a flyer with your regular guns.

**Desubot**

Speaking of seekers, i don't think i saw information on the skyray in the Spanish page. Can some one confirm? (probably should note i cant read Spanish lol)

Grammar edit

**Kroothawk**

GW webstore wrote:Warhammer 40,000 Pre-orders

For European customers:

Due to exceptional demand for Tau Empire miniatures, any orders that contain the following products will not be fulfilled until Monday 8th April at the earliest:

Tau Empire One-Click Launch Collection
Tau Battlesuit Collection
Farsight Enclave
Tau Recon Team
Shadowsun Firestrike Hunter Cadre
XV104 Riptide Battlesuit
XV88 Broadside Battlesuit
Cadre Fireblade
Commander Farsight
XV8 Battlesuit Commander
Darkstrider
Longstrike

Note that if your order contains other products, they will be delayed until these Tau Empire miniatures are back in stock and your items can be sent together. Orders that were placed before 4pm on Tuesday 2nd April are not affected.

For those of you who urgently desire to join the cause for the Greater Good, head to your local Hobby Centre this Saturday - they will have limited numbers of these Tau Empire miniatures in stock.

**Gyrtop**

Syradin wrote:
YotsubaSnake wrote:
Gyrtop wrote:
Bobug wrote:
Did anyone else notice shas'vre are now ld9 and have 3 attacks? seems they really are "heroes" now, rather than just glorified sergeants, nice!

This bodes well for Deathrain. Very well. automatic BSF, MT isn't needed, but then we can stick TAs on EVERYBODY. Along with the rumor of XV8s BS4, we can get BS5 Missile Pods, TL on three attacks. Thats about 6 autocannon-level shots per crisis suit, per turn.

But XV8s don't have BS4. however, the rumors are appearing to be true about automatic BSF and MTs, so a TA just became much easier to invest in. Almost an auto-include in my book now, since you don't have to balance it against other hardware anymore.

Also one thing I would like to point out, the number of attacks on the suit do not affect the amount of shots it puts out. So the Missile Pod TL would still only be 2 TL shots, not 6.

How does the number of attacks not affect the weapon? Last I checked, 1 attack allows one weapon, and MP fires 2 shots per attack.

**Backfire**

Savageconvoy wrote:
So no targetting arrays? That's great. It's not like that would make Pathfinders an even bigger target if an opponent was looking to cause an army wide crippling affect.

There's still Armoury with all Wargear options, I'd think that Targeting Array can still be bought from there.

**Ravenous D**

Got to love it when they cant fill pre-orders, GW should look up what pre-order means. Back in the day a pre-order meant you got the dex and models two weeks before launch.

**Desubot**

Gyrtop wrote:
Syradin wrote:
YotsubaSnake wrote:
Gyrtop wrote:
Bobug wrote:
Did anyone else notice shas'vre are now ld9 and have 3 attacks? seems they really are "heroes" now, rather than just glorified sergeants, nice!

This bodes well for Deathrain. Very well. automatic BSF, MT isn't needed, but then we can stick TAs on EVERYBODY. Along with the rumor of XV8s BS4, we can get BS5 Missile Pods, TL on three attacks. Thats about 6 autocannon-level shots per crisis suit, per turn.

But XV8s don't have BS4. however, the rumors are appearing to be true about automatic BSF and MTs, so a TA just became much easier to invest in. Almost an auto-include in my book now, since you don't have to balance it against other hardware anymore.

Also one thing I would like to point out, the number of attacks on the suit do not affect the amount of shots it puts out. So the Missile Pod TL would still only be 2 TL shots, not 6.

How does the number of attacks not affect the weapon? Last I checked, 1 attack allows one weapon, and MP fires 2 shots per attack.

It May just be the way you wrote it BUT, if most of the rules for multi tracker and equip limits stay relatively the same. First you can take 2 of the same weapons without twin linking it. and second you wouldn't be able to fire all 3 anyway as you could only ever fire 2 weapon systems. max shots would be 4

**pretre**

Ravenous D wrote:
Got to love it when they cant fill pre-orders, GW should look up what pre-order means. Back in the day a pre-order meant you got the dex and models two weeks before launch.

Umm. Pre-order generally means that you order it before it goes on sale. It doesn't magically make material show up in warehouses. You preorder two weeks before it goes live and if their stock is sold out, you get first dibs when more show up. Not rocket science.

What you are talking about is not pre-order, it is pre-sale. I.e. sold before launch or ordered and delivered before launch.

**RogueRegault**

Hmm. The entry for markerlights in the Firewarrior and Stealth Suit section translate as "Markerlight and a target selector". So I guess a target lock is included as standard when you buy a markerlight.

**Rustgob**

TIL; All the new Tau stuff is 'Limited Edition' xD

**Backfire**

Rustgob wrote:
TIL; All the new Tau stuff is 'Limited Edition' xD

Get yours before it runs out!!!

Spoiler:

So if I'm reading it right, Kroot rifle is now 2-handed melee weapon with AP5. Wow, not only they lost point of strength, but also attack. They totally suck in close combat now. One WOULD think that 2 metres tall bloodthirsty giant with two-handed weapon hits harder than average human soldier with a bayonet or rifle butt, but no...

Even Krootox sucks in combat now. Unless they have some juicy stuff which we haven't seen yet, Kroot were hit real hard with Nerf Bat, and I'm really struggling why to include them.

**Lovepug13**

Pleased I ordered mine at gw about 2 seconds after they went up for sale. I imagine that all the independents such as wayland will receive orders after direct customers have the stuff in hand......perhaps?

**UNCLEBADTOUCH**

pretre wrote:
Ravenous D wrote:
Got to love it when they cant fill pre-orders, GW should look up what pre-order means. Back in the day a pre-order meant you got the dex and models two weeks before launch.

Umm. Pre-order generally means that you order it before it goes on sale. It doesn't magically make material show up in warehouses. You preorder two weeks before it goes live and if their stock is sold out, you get first dibs when more show up. Not rocket science.

What you are talking about is not pre-order, it is pre-sale. I.e. sold before launch or ordered and delivered before launch.

The old longer pre order period however did allow them to fit in additional casting runs to make sure all orders where fulfilled. These days they just have to pull numbers out the air and hope for the best. In this instance they failed.

On the flip side it shows how popular updating the very old xenos codexes have been, who would have thought it.

**Lovepug13**

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:

On the flip side it shows how popular updating the very old xenos codexes have been, who would have thought it.

Actually can't wait to get the book.........I am away for my MBA for a week and this book will be coming with me. I shall perfect my lists during this time lol

**Mathieu Raymond**

A lot of good news from this list, such as the hammerhead remaining BS4, Ion weapons do seem very versatile, and the drone selection is enough to have me positively intrigued.

I'll have to find some good conversions.

**Syradin**

Gyrtop wrote:
Syradin wrote:
YotsubaSnake wrote:
Gyrtop wrote:
Bobug wrote:
Did anyone else notice shas'vre are now ld9 and have 3 attacks? seems they really are "heroes" now, rather than just glorified sergeants, nice!

This bodes well for Deathrain. Very well. automatic BSF, MT isn't needed, but then we can stick TAs on EVERYBODY. Along with the rumor of XV8s BS4, we can get BS5 Missile Pods, TL on three attacks. Thats about 6 autocannon-level shots per crisis suit, per turn.

But XV8s don't have BS4. however, the rumors are appearing to be true about automatic BSF and MTs, so a TA just became much easier to invest in. Almost an auto-include in my book now, since you don't have to balance it against other hardware anymore.

Also one thing I would like to point out, the number of attacks on the suit do not affect the amount of shots it puts out. So the Missile Pod TL would still only be 2 TL shots, not 6.

How does the number of attacks not affect the weapon? Last I checked, 1 attack allows one weapon, and MP fires 2 shots per attack.

The number of attacks in the models stat line in the noumber of attacks it get during assault. The number of shots a weapon get is listed in its weapon profile, ie. Assualt 1, Heavy 4. What Bodug was talking about was the number of attacks the Shas'vre get in the assault phase.

**gr1m_dan**

Backfire wrote:
Rustgob wrote:
TIL; All the new Tau stuff is 'Limited Edition' xD

Get yours before it runs out!!!

Spoiler:

So if I'm reading it right, Kroot rifle is now 2-handed melee weapon with AP5. Wow, not only they lost point of strength, but also attack. They totally suck in close combat now. One WOULD think that 2 metres tall bloodthirsty giant with two-handed weapon hits harder than average human soldier with a bayonet or rifle butt, but no...

Even Krootox sucks in combat now. Unless they have some juicy stuff which we haven't seen yet, Kroot were hit real hard with Nerf Bat, and I'm really struggling why to include them.

Because you can give them Sniper ammo - 20 Infiltrating Snipers :-D

**SabrX**

Can a native Spanish speaker whose read the Spanish site confirm whether the Ethereal's powers affect Kroots and Vespids? Google translate says, "The ethereal and all friends of the Tau Empire miniatures." I wonder if this means models from codex Tau Empire.

**Kroothawk**

Kroot gain the special rule "corpulent" when accompanied by a Krootox: Nomnomnom