New Tau Codex - April 6'th [Pics, Video and Prices in OP]

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**khuffy**

What I am really interested in is the fact that you can take marker drones in teams of 4-12 and they have 4 toughness and an armor save of 4+, also they have relentless so they can JSJ with their markerlights. For only 12 points I feel they trump the pathfinders. They do only have 2 BS but the JSJ is the biggest thing to me, as you can just hide obscure cover, pop out mark a unit then return it.

**MajinMalak**

Rented Tritium wrote:
Independant marker drones are going to be too hard to hit with. Much better will be marker drones with a higher BS dude carrying a drone controller.

So if I take a unit of 12 gun drones attach them to a Commander who has BS5 (and buy a drone controller). They'd get 24 carbine shots at 18" range TL at BS5. Plus it'd give 12 drones that have to be shot through before getting to your HQ.

**Savageconvoy**

I have a feeling that pathfinders are going to be more for people wanting to try out the neat and interesting new toys and drones. I may end up bringing a few for the railguns, but will probably stick with Tetras for all my markerlight needs.

**Ovion**

McNinja wrote:
airmang wrote:
McNinja wrote:
So... if the Bomber only generates bombs on a D6 roll of 2-6... that basically means that on a roll of 1 you wasted that many points on a flyer that is almost entirely useless for a turn. Man, I can feel the cinematic already.

The bomber does have 3 other weapons (if the drones are still attached), possibly 5 counting seeker missiles.
While you are entirely right, the point of my post was that a bomber has a chance to not drop bombs. This may be a balancing mechanic to compensate for the fact the bombs it drops are not One Use Only, but that is easily fixed by adding "the Bomber can only drop four bombs per game" or something akin to that. Instead, we get to forge the dickens out of the narrative with grand cinematic dice rolls that are entirely pointless.

Yet most bombers only have 1-2 bombs total, and can only drop one per turn, so they've still got more munitions than the average bomber.

**RogueRegault**

Coyote81 wrote:
AtoMaki wrote:
Lysenis wrote:
Whats the limit on the Drone Upgrade? Can all of them do this or just a few?

Any of them can do it.

For those who are interested, here are some pics with 100% more english:

Spoiler:

Thanks for the info!

Wow, seeker missiles got a nerf as well. Instead of being essentially fired by the markerlight unit, they now have to be fired as part of the vehicle's firing action.

**ironicsilence**

Not to rain on the parade but arent pictures of codex pages generally a dakka no no?

**boy wonder**

double post

**MechaBeast**

Edit....I'm wrong

**boy wonder**

can anyone tell me how many hardpoints each suit has? cheers

**Rented Tritium**

ironicsilence wrote:
Not to rain on the parade but arent pictures of codex pages generally a dakka no no?

They aren't "codex pages" until there is a released codex. Right now they are just pages from a mysterious book that may or may not be a codex.

Once the codex is released, they are usually taken down.

**Ovion**

boy wonder wrote:
can anyone tell me how many hardpoints each suit has? cheers

From what I've gathered, it' Commander = 4, Other Battlesuits = 3, Stealth/Broads = 1.

Has there been any word on if any Honour Guard is still there? Are we still able to take 84 Firewarriors? (or even 96 now!?)

**Rented Tritium**

MajinMalak wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Independant marker drones are going to be too hard to hit with. Much better will be marker drones with a higher BS dude carrying a drone controller.

So if I take a unit of 12 gun drones attach them to a Commander who has BS5 (and buy a drone controller). They'd get 24 carbine shots at 18" range TL at BS5. Plus it'd give 12 drones that have to be shot through before getting to your HQ.

That's going to depend on the wording for the drone controller. It might be that it only allows drones purchased for that unit to fire at their BS, not all drones in the same unit.

If it does say "all drones in the squad" though, oh man, that would rule pretty hard.

**Backfire**

davou wrote:

Melta guns, Power gauntlet, EMP grenades, Railguns, deep striking, Mega suit..... Some people just like to pretend their butts hurt even when they dont

Other than Railguns, which are limited to three, all those options suck. Sorry.

Savageconvoy wrote:
Also noticed the Hammerhead has Twinlinked burst cannons now vice two. That's kinda disappointing. At least it helps with the moving and shooting part of it.

Hey, another way to screw the vehicles. Burst cannons in Hammerhead were great because you could split fire (my Ionhead once made three kills in one turn), or have BS5 volley with just 1 Markerlight.

Hammerhead sucks now, but you have to include it because it's the only way to get a Railgun. Wow...this is so awesome...not.

**boy wonder**

Ovion wrote:
boy wonder wrote:
can anyone tell me how many hardpoints each suit has? cheers
From what I've gathered, it' Commander = 4, Other Battlesuits = 3, Stealth/Broads = 1.

Has there been any word on if any Honour Guard is still there? Are we still able to take 84 Firewarriors? (or even 96 now!?)

cheers! how bout the riptide?

it looks like honour guard are out.. :(

**davou**

Backfire wrote:
Materia_Master wrote:

Or use a (very easy to obtain) markerlight and shoot it with a Hammerhead.
Or give the a crisis suit an onagar gauntlet and falcon pawnch the enemy tank. (might as well give the suit a melta, for synergy)

Railhead, with BS5 and cover save stripped, has 13.89% chance of destroying AV14 vehicle with one shot. I agree in principle that AV14 should be hard to destroy, but why then many other armies can spam craploads of anti-AV14 weaponry? Dark Eldar can spam BS4 lances, IG and Space Marines can spam Lascannons and Multi-meltas, Necrons can spam God knows what. Why aren't we allowed to spam Railguns, then? And don't tell me "but we have other means like Piranhas lol". Piranhas suck, and other armies have just as many "alternative" means.

What many people are forgetting that in 5th edition, Railgun could destroy or immobilize vehicles with glancing hits. This was important, particularly against Battlewagon lists. Now, glancing hits usually need multiple turns to have effect, so switch to 6ed already nerfed them somewhat.

Chrysis wrote:
Wolfnid420 wrote:
Two handed implies a boost in strength does it not? Like a power axe maybe? So kroot when down but realy +2S=5?

No, Two-Handed implies it can't be combined with other weapons for bonus attacks, nothing more. It might give bonus strength, but that's not guaranteed.

Kroot rifle is strength: User, AP5, 2-handed. It does not confer strength bonus, the "bonus" from being two-handed is AP5. It's annoying that people just gush "but they make great cheap snipers!", yeah, but maybe everyone does not always WANT to use sniper option? Aren't regular line Kroot supposed to be useful too? Only minor saving grace I can think of is that Krootox no longer seems to limit Infiltration or Outflanking, or at least I can't see anything hinting to that direction.

Lots of talk about 16% chance to destroy, but no mention of the fact that you can lock it from moving for the rest of the game 16% of the time.... Or stop it from moving or shooting 16%, or just stop it from shooting 16%.... You dont need to destroy it if I'ts gonna sit in the back field not in range of anything.

**MajinMalak**

Rented Tritium wrote:
MajinMalak wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Independant marker drones are going to be too hard to hit with. Much better will be marker drones with a higher BS dude carrying a drone controller.

So if I take a unit of 12 gun drones attach them to a Commander who has BS5 (and buy a drone controller). They'd get 24 carbine shots at 18" range TL at BS5. Plus it'd give 12 drones that have to be shot through before getting to your HQ.

That's going to depend on the wording for the drone controller. It might be that it only allows drones purchased for that unit to fire at their BS, not all drones in the same unit.

If it does say "all drones in the squad" though, oh man, that would rule pretty hard.

From what I read "All Gun Drones, Marker Drones and Sniper Drones in the same unit as a model with a drone controller use the bearer's BS instead of their own."

So yeah, it's the entire unit. So this should work.

**Backfire**

davou wrote:

Lots of talk about 16% chance to destroy, but no mention of the fact that you can lock it from moving for the rest of the game 16% of the time.... Or stop it from moving or shooting 16%, or just stop it from shooting 16%.... You dont need to destroy it if I'ts gonna sit in the back field not in range of anything.

Actually chance of the "Immobilized" result is only 4.63%, assuming those circumstances. But I played Railhead in previous edition, y'know, where chances of mobility or weapon kill were better than they are in 6th edition. It still wasn't really great vehicle killer.

**davou**

We got haywire on emp grenades!!!!

**SagesStone**

Anyone else think this way when they saw the full pic of the tank dude?

**buddha**

n0t_u wrote:
Anyone else think this way when they saw the full pic of the tank dude?

He can hang out with brother tiesto:

**synchronicity**

I can't find any mention of "networked" markerlights, even on marker drones. There seems to be only one "markerlight" profile.

Are the days of units benefitting from their own markerlights gone?

**pretre**

Anyone catch the author?

**Kilkrazy**

There are going to be so many markerlights used with this new codex that it is petty and it will be an almighty faff to have to keep track of the one markerlight that belongs to Squad A so they can't use it.

**shade1313**

gr1m_dan wrote:
@RogueRegault

EDIT - I CANNOT WAIT to falcon pawnch a tank :-D Completely non-Tau tactic and very risky and will result in many dead Battlesuits the turn after but just to see the reaction on my enemies face will be priceless.

I LOVE the idea of the Onager Gauntlet on a fusion gunned suit. Fusion Punch FTW! Maybe not the most optimized unit, but it makes me giggle.

**ashikenshin**

There are networked markerlights, and still work the same.

**Backfire**

Talking about Markerlight, how does Sky Ray and its Seeker missiles work now? Because I just realized that it can't move if it wants to shoot with more than one Markerlight, and that makes it, if possible, even worse than in previous codex.

**YotsubaSnake**

synchronicity wrote:
I can't find any mention of "networked" markerlights, even on marker drones. There seems to be only one "markerlight" profile.

Are the days of units benefitting from their own markerlights gone?

The skyray has Networked Markerlights, but nothing else seems to. Which more or less makes sense, the skyray kinda needs them to fire their seeker missiles at something the same turn without having to rely on another unit (if you took out all other markerlights, the skyray would not be able to fire their seekers if not for networking)

**Rented Tritium**

MajinMalak wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
MajinMalak wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Independant marker drones are going to be too hard to hit with. Much better will be marker drones with a higher BS dude carrying a drone controller.

So if I take a unit of 12 gun drones attach them to a Commander who has BS5 (and buy a drone controller). They'd get 24 carbine shots at 18" range TL at BS5. Plus it'd give 12 drones that have to be shot through before getting to your HQ.

That's going to depend on the wording for the drone controller. It might be that it only allows drones purchased for that unit to fire at their BS, not all drones in the same unit.

If it does say "all drones in the squad" though, oh man, that would rule pretty hard.

From what I read "All Gun Drones, Marker Drones and Sniper Drones in the same unit as a model with a drone controller use the bearer's BS instead of their own."

So yeah, it's the entire unit. So this should work.

Thats uh... wow. that... Man that is amazing

**boy wonder**

The sunshark has a networked markerlight too

**davou**

Backfire wrote:
davou wrote:

Melta guns, Power gauntlet, EMP grenades, Railguns, deep striking, Mega suit..... Some people just like to pretend their butts hurt even when they dont

Other than Railguns, which are limited to three, all those options suck. Sorry.

so you went from there are no options, to those options suck?

Haywire glances on 2's dude, A small squad of sacrificial fire warriors is welcome to die if it means they will drop a landraider; You're just being a princess about it.

Power gauntlet is cheap as toast, and strikes at initiative to boot; against rear armor!

Deep striking sucks? 0.o

The only option I don't particularly like among the ones I mentioned are the melta guns; and even they are decent enough if you use them right.