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I got my boards - woo!



The clips are pretty sturdy. Having to assemble the board face down and then flip it over for play is very cumbersome and a bit nerve wracking but seemed to work okay.

The boards cope well with the 6" overhang on each of the long edges of my table - better than the GW RoB. The clips don't ping off every time someone leans of the board.

The grey areas are smoother than I had expected and my terrain moves around at the slightest touch. Once the release agent is removed and I have a layer of paint on there hopefully the surface will be a bit more grippy.

More photos here:-

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bhqzy38oo940hg3/AADPXM-I9hl4V7Oz77t3X7r2a?dl=0

Did you scratch the bottom underside to see if it is just mono-colored plastic or actually painted like it was supposed to be on the stone/cement parts? The roads are obviously painted but it sure does look like the rest is just plastic. In any case, congrats on finally getting it. That is the one I considered but got gunshy when it came to confirming my pledge.

It's definitely not painted - I and everyone else who has received their boards has confirmed that now, despite all G&G's protestations to the contrary.

 Slinky wrote:
It's definitely not painted - I and everyone else who has received their boards has confirmed that now, despite all G&G's protestations to the contrary.

Yep, there is no paint other than on the roads. There's a quote over on the KS campaign from Alice admitting that the plastic has been coloured grey but they are not painted but I think it was from a PM so there is no way of verifying it. Either way there certainly aren't the two coats of grey paint that Alice told us there were in the comments a few weeks ago. I'm not sure whether the confusion is due to a language issue, a miscommunication internally within G&G or a change of production methods.

Either way, when I placed my pledge I hadn't actually realised that the boards would come painted so I'm not too fussed about it. It would of course have saved the having to prime them if they have been entirely painted but I guess I can live with that.

Got the clips, I am really wondering when the actual boards will arrive...

 Maccwar wrote:
I got my boards - woo!

The clips are pretty sturdy. Having to assemble the board face down and then flip it over for play is very cumbersome and a bit nerve wracking but seemed to work okay.

The boards cope well with the 6" overhang on each of the long edges of my table - better than the GW RoB. The clips don't ping off every time someone leans of the board.

The grey areas are smoother than I had expected and my terrain moves around at the slightest touch. Once the release agent is removed and I have a layer of paint on there hopefully the surface will be a bit more grippy.

More photos here:-

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bhqzy38oo940hg3/AADPXM-I9hl4V7Oz77t3X7r2a?dl=0

Maccwar,

Thanks for the update!

While it definitely is annoying about the lack of paint, I'm more disappointed about the lack of a carrying case. I was going to sell my RoB, but may just keep it for the case now!

A few questions if you don't mind.

You say a 6" overhang is safe, but think it could work for a foot overhang on a 4x4 table? To the clips, can you actually get it to flip without it coming apart? I've read a 4x4 is doable with one person, but a 6x4 needs two and sometimes it comes apart.

Also, would you mind confirming how thick the tiles are? Thanks in advance!

Hopefully they show up in the US soon!

Is it just an optical illusion or is the lip around the "swimming pool" a different colour?

In any case G&G's pants are on serious fire.

Bring lazy so I'll just copy my kickstarter comment:
I did indeed schedule my delivery to arrive to my conservatory, fortunately it has a separate locked door to the house so I just left it open all day, also fortunately it's very much a 'you could leave your door open' kind of area.

Initial thoughts having just popped it together quickly, painting is poor at best, the lines haven't been masked properly on the roads which means there's edge bleeding on a lot of them. Also the paint clearly hasn't been applied evenly as some lines are pretty see through while others are solid blocks of white.

Also the tiles don't fit together particularly well as the 'garden section' tile has a noticeable difference in edge distance to the tile next to it.

Not terrible for the KS price but anyone paying the full whack for these is out of their minds.

 Maccwar wrote:
I got my boards - woo!



The clips are pretty sturdy. Having to assemble the board face down and then flip it over for play is very cumbersome and a bit nerve wracking but seemed to work okay.

The boards cope well with the 6" overhang on each of the long edges of my table - better than the GW RoB. The clips don't ping off every time someone leans of the board.

The grey areas are smoother than I had expected and my terrain moves around at the slightest touch. Once the release agent is removed and I have a layer of paint on there hopefully the surface will be a bit more grippy.

More photos here:-

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bhqzy38oo940hg3/AADPXM-I9hl4V7Oz77t3X7r2a?dl=0

Nice to see the boards arriving for UK backers. I didn't buy the 28mm set, and now wish I had. Those are good.
Anyway, G&G say the Anime boards are next, then the Anima and Dropzone commander boards afterwards. Those are the ones I bought.
Good things come to those who wait.


Anyone else have problems with photobucket? While typing this the photobucket are still trying to load up, and the dropbox ones have all been seen.

My 2nd board is Hellscape, which they are keen to avoid mentioning at all :(

Also waiting for a set of trays.

Good things eh?

Except for the lack of paint
And the dude whose box of boards was left outside in the rain by the postal company
And the dude whose boards turned up twisted and melted.

Good things.

So I got a Hawk board, not bad, but I had pledged for two of them.

Anybody in the same situation who got only one or got both?

I thought Dropzone Commander boards were next? I was almost sure of this...

PsychoticStorm, someone posted the same thing above!

 RiTides wrote:
I thought Dropzone Commander boards were next? I was almost sure of this...

PsychoticStorm, someone posted the same thing above!

Aren't the dzc boards the ones being shown as received in the UK? They match the card stock tiles in the cityscape set almost exactly... you know...except for the missing cement colors and shading.

It seems they've made it to the US. Just got mine a few minutes ago.

@ Maccwar,

Disregard my previous request. I was surprised by its arrival today - East Coast US!

As someone who owns the RoB and comparing it directly, it is better, but still has some issues.

Obviously price at the KS is a massive advantage and I'm thankful that mine does not come with any major defects, the roads are painted pretty clean, and I don't have much of the plastic finish others have talked about. The overhang also works really nice, with even a 12in overhang not nearly as shaky as an RoB at just a few inches.

On the other hand, it is not nearly as easy to flip the thing over as advertised. It can be a dangerous one person job if you have no disregard for your table and pull/flip it long ways, but even with two people, it feels like it is going to break apart at any moment. I found flipping it long ways is better as you can support both clip points. Although compared to the RoB, assembly is easier, but different as you have to flip it. It is impossible to assemble upwards. As an aside, I had not put my RoB together for a while and I still cannot believe how little R&D GW did for the assembly process. The clips, sparseness of placement, and board flimsiness are terrible.

For me personally though, I don't care about the lack of paint (even though the advertising was deceitful) but I am really bemoaning the lack of any kind of carrying/storage case. For anyone interested, these boards fill about 8/10 of a GW case, so the boards would fumble around a bit.

If anything, this has just convinced me that a proper 6x4+ table is a necessity to not have to worry about the assembly or overhang problems of all boards on the market. Still one balance point no one can seem to get right.

Not a bad board at all, but the Anime and Anima look to have a more finished looked. These would be solid alternatives for a RoB (which is apparently increasing) at retail, but G&G has to get a carrying case and come straight on the whole painted advertising fiasco for the Hawks.

Lastly, if anyone has a Hellscape and would like to swap for a Hawk Board - PM me. Alternatively, I will sell the HAWK at KS price. Let's talk about shipping though.

The lack of full pain tjob is regretable, but I rthink G&G put that in the brief.

But what are they to do, they pay, the boards get made, they aren't what G&G asked fro and the factory then smiles and doesn't listen.
This is a common factor of dealing with the dragon.

G&G didn't make the boards, they hired a factory to do it for them, so when the factory cuts corners there isn't much G&G can do about it.

They are being shipped, thats the main thing.


Reese - I wouldn't do any swaps until we see what the production Hellscape looks like, same factory, same cut corners.

 Orlanth wrote:
The lack of full pain tjob is regretable, but I rthink G&G put that in the brief.

But what are they to do, they pay, the boards get made, they aren't what G&G asked fro and the factory then smiles and doesn't listen.
This is a common factor of dealing with the dragon.

G&G didn't make the boards, they hired a factory to do it for them, so when the factory cuts corners there isn't much G&G can do about it.

They are being shipped, thats the main thing.
.

I've been following this peripherally since I chickened out on pledging for the DZC board but from what I've read in THIS thread a large reason for the resentment present is because they have NOT been honest about it. A few pages back there were posts with links about them telling folks effectively to STFU when they were simply noticing that the boards weren't painted as promised. They stuck (likely for legal reasons) to their story about it being as advertised/planned. If I missed something in the meantime (and, no, posting painting guides is NOT the same thing as admitting they weren't painted on the cement areas in the first place), feel free to post a link as I'm interested in reading it. I haven't ruled out getting one of these at retail if it is offered but I'm certainly not buying it ever without seeing it in person.

I can see how this is a disappointment to some, but taking the boards we see so far, the stuff we really needed done, the road lines ans surfacing are done. Its a simple job of artists tape over the roads, spray the paving area and then inkwash a dirt between paving slabs.

Most of us were going to repaint anyway, factory paint jobs are not the same as what we can do ourselves. If the roads were unmasked that would suck, but I think its ok.

And allowing fpr the price bloody excellent.
That is the real problem they quoted backers a price which was approx 60% off retail, with free shipping, most backing discounts are a third off or something, a lot even less.
Corners were cut in production and G&G fell into their trap of an unrealistic promise.
People get angry and one of their frontmen has a history of gross unreliability. So it compounds.

As it happens the boards were being made and someone in G&G intended to deliver,. so I let is all wash over.

Backers are in for a good deal, but good deals often have a price of 'bumpy ride' attached. If you get plastic boards very similar in ways to Realms of Skulls for £60 with no p+p should expect the producer to go the cheap way through problems. I think the discount is worth the hassle, and knowing that means, no hassle, so I am up for a bargain. I do hope others are also.

We pledged for the Dropzone Commander boards intending to use them for a tournament... we've now missed 3 such tournaments and the next one late this summer looks to get missed as well =/

I can't think of a Kickstarter I've been more disappointed with, and it is the lack of honesty and transparency that has done that.

Being however late (a year, year and a half?) is one thing... stringing along your backers by saying they're shipping each month when they're not is quite another. I can't believe a word they say anymore, which is a terrible position for a company to voluntarily put themselves in when the alternative would be very simple (an honest "We're looking at 4 months until the next theme begins to get delivered, and 6 months for the one after that, etc").

A small update, got the second table.

Oh come off it Orlanth, you must have some involvement in this company or project. Putting a positive spin on every single clusterfeth that comes out of this mess is ridiculous.

Its late
They lied ( a LOT)
Product not as advertised

Spin that.

Dumb question, but is the Kickstarer typo deliberate or an actual typo?

yeah

 Pete Melvin wrote:
Its late
They lied ( a LOT)
Product not as advertised

Spin that.

They have arrived and they're cheap.

Mine is 80% painted now and being prepared as my Medge board.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/medge/maelstroms-edge-a-next-gen-sci-fi-miniatures-warga
It's looking great!

Panic...

 Pete Melvin wrote:
Oh come off it Orlanth, you must have some involvement in this company or project. Putting a positive spin on every single clusterfeth that comes out of this mess is ridiculous.

Its late
They lied ( a LOT)
Product not as advertised

Spin that.

I have one connection to the company, that solely of a customer who bought two boards during the pledge campaign. I knew of one staff member, haven't seen him in passing for eight years, and haven't seen him regularly for well over ten years.

As for the lateness and quality, they outsourced to China, and lowballed expenditure. This is what happens, G&G are not alone in this error. Ask Catalyst, ask Rackham, or more accurately ex-Rackham because Rackham went bust this way. PSC is doing well, because they handle things differently. There is a right way and a wrong way to outsource to China, and the differences are enormous.

Frankly there is room for positivity about this. I am a glass half full kind of guy, it's healthier when waiting for something to keep an optimism. This is why I never joined the angst crowd even in th darkest times. Now boards are actually arriving the main threat, non delivery, is receding. Buck up, I think you will end up happier when you have got them, and cap tap into that now.

I doubt that there will be many that trust G&G for whatever their next Kickstarter will be.

But then I stopped trusting them during their first Kickstarter.

Yet I am certain that there will be a next Kickstarter.

The Auld Grump

 Panic wrote:

They have arrived and they're cheap.

Mine haven't.

yeah,

UltraPrime wrote:

 Panic wrote:

They have arrived and they're cheap.

Mine haven't.

I should clarify i was talking about the 28mm urban board.
Only my urban board arrived, Still waiting on my other two designs...

What board did you order?

Panic...

Look at the chevrons on the latest board pictures in the latest update and try to be half full.

What a nightmare this KS has been.

Still, I wish I would have pledged. The cost of the boards at retail will stop me from ever buying one.