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Avengers introduces the MK7 for the final battle. The prototype 'pieces' armour is the MK42.
It's also worth noting that the Iron Patriot/Warmachine armour is actually meant to be the Iron Man Mk2, up armoured. If you actually look at the suits it's clear that the IM3 Iron Patriot is a completely new suit, but that means one of two things: either Tony has started building suits for the US military or the US military can now build their own suits. Since the former is abhorrent to him (it would be arms dealing again) it must be the latter but that means that Iron Man is now just another piece of hardware. But the MK2 required a full staging platform and like six robot arms to get into/out of and good as Stark is you can't simply backwards engineer the IM3 'step in/out' opening into exiting suits. That kind of feature is either in there from the start or it's not.
Either way now they have to justify the 'not a drone' path. 'Sure I could build a suit and risk my life. But seeing as how the last time I did it was hellishly traumatic, I nearly died and left me with PTSD I think I'll just build remote drones. Also Pepper doesn't yell at me.'
I'm actually starting to think the RDJ has influenced the ending to 'retire' Iron Man. At least he'll be retired unless Marvel (I guess Disney) shells out another $50 million for him to appear in Avengers 2. Much as I like RDJ as Iron Man if that's the case I almost hope they do replace him or Joss Whedon simply ignores him in A2 ("Why isn't Stark here?" "Oh he retired. But he sent some drones!")
Iron Patriot isn't a new suit, but an upgrade of the old one. The military didn't build a new suit, they just made some adjustments. It is even said two or three times it was upgraded.
Ahtman wrote: Iron Patriot isn't a new suit, but an upgrade of the old one. The military didn't build a new suit, they just made some adjustments. It is even said two or three times it was upgraded.
I know they say that but look at those two very different suits. Iron Patriot features a new exterior, which includes a new weapons line up, and armour plates that were once solid are now split. It features a new internal structure, instead of the solid mesh type old one, which can split apart both at the front and back. The UI is also noticeably different to it's original (replaced after Vanko's hack no doubt, though you must wonder how well it works lacking JARVIS). You could argue the new power core, which is square, is the same old reactor but it does appear different. It's a new suit that at best salvages some older parts.
The line is in there to try and draw a connection- that this is the suit Rhodes got from IM2. It then clumsily tries to foist off the idea that despite being utterly unlike either of the previous two appearances in either form or function, it's the same armour. Oh and by the way it now has a completely impossible to integrate feature essential to the plot. I mean FFS they even say the military has upgraded it- not Stark (remember he's no military contractor now). What a fortunate coincidence they happen to develop and incorporate the very same jump in/out technology Stark has just started putting into his suits.
I just saw it. It isnt very strong.
Ok, So he created the mandarin to cover up his failures, OK that makes sense, But why make it so public. He seems to have another agenda to that in which it is destroying america. He kills an accountant and kidnaps the president with the line "And thanks to you not a single fat cat saw a day in court" HE seems to not like capitalism. But it isnt pointed out WHY!!!!!
And the mandarin didnt need to be so public, he could have just kept using it to make him a shadowy figure, A terrorist people only have the faintest idea of. The attack on the mansion made no sense later on because that just made tony angrier while not serving their interests, to make extremis legal.
hotsauceman1 wrote: I just saw it. It isnt very strong.
Ok, So he created the mandarin to cover up his failures, OK that makes sense, But why make it so public.
Becuase the bombings were public. People tend to notice when a bomb goes off in the middle of Cleveland. Just kidding, no one would notice that.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
hotsauceman1 wrote: But in a world where a man flies around in armor with the most advance tech possible it is kinda stupid
Becuase Iron Man exists people wouldn't notice nine (I think it was nine) public bombings? Not sure if that counted blowing up a landmark like Mann;s Chinese Theater either. Just because Iron Man exists doesn't mean that people don't notice terrorism anymore, and if you are accidently bombing places while trying to keep a low profile, it makes sense to come up with a cover story to keep everyone from knowing the real reason for the explosions.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
What im saying is this. He should not have beem public with the mandarin. Eventually people would connect the dots and find out what is going on. Then destroying of starks house was a stupid move
Kojiro wrote: Avengers introduces the MK7 for the final battle. The prototype 'pieces' armour is the MK42.
It's also worth noting that the Iron Patriot/Warmachine armour is actually meant to be the Iron Man Mk2, up armoured. If you actually look at the suits it's clear that the IM3 Iron Patriot is a completely new suit, but that means one of two things: either Tony has started building suits for the US military or the US military can now build their own suits. Since the former is abhorrent to him (it would be arms dealing again) it must be the latter but that means that Iron Man is now just another piece of hardware. But the MK2 required a full staging platform and like six robot arms to get into/out of and good as Stark is you can't simply backwards engineer the IM3 'step in/out' opening into exiting suits. That kind of feature is either in there from the start or it's not.
Either way now they have to justify the 'not a drone' path. 'Sure I could build a suit and risk my life. But seeing as how the last time I did it was hellishly traumatic, I nearly died and left me with PTSD I think I'll just build remote drones. Also Pepper doesn't yell at me.'
I'm actually starting to think the RDJ has influenced the ending to 'retire' Iron Man. At least he'll be retired unless Marvel (I guess Disney) shells out another $50 million for him to appear in Avengers 2. Much as I like RDJ as Iron Man if that's the case I almost hope they do replace him or Joss Whedon simply ignores him in A2 ("Why isn't Stark here?" "Oh he retired. But he sent some drones!")
He has a contract. He WILL be in avengers 2. RDJ likely had zero influence on the story. Just because he blew up his suits doesn't mean he wont make another one.
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hotsauceman1 wrote: What im saying is this. He should not have beem public with the mandarin. Eventually people would connect the dots and find out what is going on. Then destroying of starks house was a stupid move
Its best not to question the logic of superhero movies, you WILL find holes in all of them. Just have fun
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I'm both orderly and rational. I value control, information, and order. I love structure and hierarchy, and will actively use whatever power or knowledge I have to maintain it. At best, I am lawful and insightful; at worst, I am bureaucratic and tyrannical.
There's nothing stopping Tony from giving his suits a power supply that isn't his heart. Not sure why people get so caught up on that XD We've already seen his suits operate without his heart's arc reactor.
I'm both orderly and rational. I value control, information, and order. I love structure and hierarchy, and will actively use whatever power or knowledge I have to maintain it. At best, I am lawful and insightful; at worst, I am bureaucratic and tyrannical.
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Love how it should have ended. That's my favorite one since Transformers 2.
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