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 Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:
Still being a relative newbie to this KS stuff, how common is it that models from wave 1 end up on the regular web store before the fulfillment is complete. I can see how it would make business sense but it does leave something of a bad taste in the mouth if a lot of the things you want end up in wave 3, doubly so with how slow this one seems to be.

Yeah, that's a bit of a bug-bear for me also. I think it's quite likely that much of this stuff will end up in stores before my (all in one) wave ships. Suppose you just have to think about how much cheaper our stuff will be. Sorta try to weigh it up that way. Not that I'm going to get round to painting them til at least 2015 anyway, but still kinda just want them in hand, soon as.

Overall, a good update. Just a shame that they missed their deadline by about an hour or so. Especially given that the content was written at the start of the week and they were just waiting for someone to keep taking photos with his iPad until they managed to keep their hand still long enough to get rid of the blur.

Now, whilst the renders do look good, there's not much that holds my interest this time around. Sure, there's the CS troopers, but they're pretty much just the same as the regular troopers with some different poses and bits. There only looks to be one heavy / special weapon on display though.

The one heroine shown, that I'd pencilled into my list, Ivanka, does look a little off. It's either the overall pose or the fact that her hat looks like it's just a big ball of hair. Where as the concept has it as a much more defined hat with straighter edges and overhang.

The brief run down of the first wave is nice to finally see. Though I suspect it'll change before we actually see the pledge manager.

Finally, the sister art looks acceptable. Though they don't seem to be as enthusiastic for space nuns as potential customers do. (Not the only company like that) based on the fact that they're showing us one concept rather than the dozen or so we had for elves the first time they were shown. Either that, or they're listening to backers and not inundating us with not directly relevant stuff.

Nah, first time they raised the Dark Elves it was a lone image, that was ages before they did the multi picture reveal for more of them.

 alanmckenzie wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

 alanmckenzie wrote:
Whenever I think about cashing out, I totally forget about those freebies. Yeah, looks like I'll be in for a while. Wave 3, maybe 4? March '15?

Which level/freebies are those?

Lieutenant level.

#1: Ash, Tank Gunner
#2: Kristina Karlstein, Armoured Division Officer
#3: Jaheda Kano, Armoured Division Officer
#4: Harry the Baby Hippo, Jailbirds' mascot
#5: Svetlana, the Light of Freedom (read her story)
#6: Raven, the Chain Breaker (read her story)
#7: Jinx, the Iron Empire mascot (read his story)
#8: Charlie, the Kurganovas' mascot
#9: Nertha, the Faceless Mother (read her story)
#10: Lucky Lucy, Jaibird Spotter
#11: W101, Iron Empire Cyber Zombie Bodyguard
#12: Nurse Karoline, Kurganova medic
#13: 1 new Lulu
#14: Natasha, Com Operator


Think the only ones we've seen progress on are the mascots, Natasha, that's all I think, unless I'm wrong.

I'm in over the lieutenant level, so if I only want to pay shipping once (which I do), (or cash out on all wave 1 stuff and run), I'll need to wait on all the freebies to be finished anyway, even if I was only intending to spend my pledge on wave 1 troop boxes.

You know, I'd forgotten those as well. I guess the question now becomes do I cash out in W1 and then just pay shipping for the freebies when the final wave ships in December 2015?


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 Buzzsaw wrote:
Some good, some bad, but one thing really hit me as, wow, that's... dumb;

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Seriously, the trooper all the way on the left. What the heck?

Doing a door breach - the proper way. (mule kick) Obviously.

I'd feel quite comfortable cashing out in Wave 1, with what are the tentative contents. I'll admit, it does help that I have a dropship to receive the rest of my freebies at. I won't lie.

They look good. I wanted to get away from the skullz and eagles, but the KST have got me a bit meh. The heels' will get trimmed to be thinner soled, though.

They should auction off those rejected 3D prints, though.

Now see, this update really brings home exactly why these guys piss me off so much; most of that stuff looks amazing, the scale looks to be exactly what I was hoping for(the "Goldilocks" zone of Forgeworld humans - not full-on GW heroic scale, but not too skinny and fragile looking), and that Sisters preview art look bang-on.

It's just a shame the quality is marred by their arty-farty attitude and near-total inability to manage their time.

They are the masters, we are but poor unfortunates who should count our blessings in that they deemed us worthy and thus, accepted our money.

This is cool:

The Webinars Observation

Did you pledge for one of the Webinars, or for the Connoisseur Box or the Connoisseur Add-on?
Then by now, you should have received an email message giving you the location and password of the recordings of the Art Direction and the 3D Sculpting Webinars we presented back in December.

These two webinars went on much longer than expected, and so, you are looking at over 7.5 hours of video, instead of the planned 5 hours.
We went deep into the most important notions that we rely on to create Raging Heroes miniatures, and we tried to explain them in the most approachable manner.
If you haven't received your email, please contact me.

If you wished you had been able to be a fly on the wall, then please know that we are about to do some Google Video Hangouts that will be recorded and shared, and that will cover aspects of our work.
These Hangouts will be available for free to everyone. Of course they won't go into as many details as the Webinars did, but they will give you a good feel of the work we are doing on a daily basis.

So they recorded it for the participants, which is very nice and I have to think might be due to my suggesting that there'd be now way anyone could retain all that information otherwise!

And, they'll be recording some free Google Hangout sessions for everyone. Win-win

Guys when is this scheduled to come out at retail? Missed the ks since I spent what I had on the robotech ks.

 Cypher-xv wrote:
Guys when is this scheduled to come out at retail? Missed the ks since I spent what I had on the robotech ks.

Well, if we're very very lucky, those of us who are Left Behind come Judgement Day will be able to enjoy purchasing the newly released Raging Heroes model line as some compensation for having to reside in an eternal hellscape

You forget that the Raging Heroes models will be raptured away to the right hand of The Lord, where they belong.

 Cypher-xv wrote:
Guys when is this scheduled to come out at retail? Missed the ks since I spent what I had on the robotech ks.

Well, you can always contact them and ask if it's possible to pledge still through paypal. They did have that option available (it's how I pledged). Not sure if it's still open since it said "closing soon" but then again, Raging Heroes has their own special version of soon, or quick, or in the near future. Ah, let's be honest, time flows differently for them than for the rest of us

 Gertjan wrote:

 Cypher-xv wrote:
Guys when is this scheduled to come out at retail? Missed the ks since I spent what I had on the robotech ks.

Well, you can always contact them and ask if it's possible to pledge still through paypal. They did have that option available (it's how I pledged). Not sure if it's still open since it said "closing soon" but then again, Raging Heroes has their own special version of soon, or quick, or in the near future. Ah, let's be honest, time flows differently for them than for the rest of us

It's still possible to pledge through Paypal. Just go here and follow all the instructions.

Quick question, as we rapidly approach the point where everyone is going to have to start making some tough decisions: has there been a confirmation on whether or not Punky will be getting a hand swap? I'd really love to pick her up, but the head swap they showed us in the update before last has convinced me to switch to Vera Krabbenhoft for my flag bearer if Punky is going to be stuck with the 'throat-cut' hand.

Can anyone explain to me if Vera Krabbenhoft is supposed to be missing a leg or is it just a bad angle?

Vera is running, I think.

Yeah, it's just a bad angle on all the images that we've seen. I'm fairly sure it was confirmed some point during the KS that she does have both legs.

The latest update says they're going to include an option for spincast resin. Isn't that the same method finecast used and is why it was terrible?

Knowing them, production will be put on hold until it has been perfected.

 stonefox wrote:
The latest update says they're going to include an option for spincast resin. Isn't that the same method finecast used and is why it was terrible?

I don't think so. There was a lot of discussion about 'spin-cast resin' during the campaign, with several people calling it 'restic' and saying it was worse than Finecast, some people claiming it was the most superior method of model creation in existence, and a lot of people being confused on what precisely it entailed.

But no, I don't believe it is the same process as Games Workshop Finecast.

Finecast is far too inferior quality for ze masters to make ze ART in you philistines. Go back to twitter, and attempt to wean yourself from it.

 Jimsolo wrote:
...some people claiming it was the most superior method of model creation in existence...

These people are stupid. We have had many examples of companies who switched to some form of restic claiming it is the best thing since sliced bread, and the results are always gak. Some were extremely gak like Finecast (more expensive than metal, more fragile, full of holes and collapses under its own weight), while others were just a little bit gak like Mantic's (twice the price of proper plastic, warped and torn from the sprues), but they were all gak.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
You forget that the Raging Heroes models will be raptured away to the right hand of The Lord, where they belong.

I guess I'm pretty lucky that I dropped my pledge down from the initial "Go BIG, Go HARD"-type level to the much, much lower $150 or so that got most of the freebies. It's much easier to maintain a level of bemused sarcastic snark this way instead of the Raging Angers I'd be having otherwise.

Man, if I'd dropped that kind of money on this KS, I'd have to ask them to cast my minis in bacon, because they're all I'd have to eat for a month.

Unfortunately by the time they arrived, my neighbors would be complaining about the strange smell.

Regarding that walker, will there be different pilots? I'd hate to have to get three and be stuck with three bored out of their mind pilots..

 BrookM wrote:
Regarding that walker, will there be different pilots? I'd hate to have to get three and be stuck with three bored out of their mind pilots..

Sorry. All the pilots will be French.


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 Azazelx wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
You forget that the Raging Heroes models will be raptured away to the right hand of The Lord, where they belong.

I guess I'm pretty lucky that I dropped my pledge down from the initial "Go BIG, Go HARD"-type level to the much, much lower $150 or so that got most of the freebies. It's much easier to maintain a level of bemused sarcastic snark this way instead of the Raging Angers I'd be having otherwise.

Now that I think about it, that's how much I dropped on Robotech Tactics. It's a good think I didn't splurge on the MAC II Monster, or I'd be bitter and vindictive. Or more so.

I'm not sure how I would be if I dropped more than I have on this one myself. My brother and I dropped $700+ on Kingdom Death and despite the setbacks there, I'm cool with it. Here, I'd probably die from spontaneous combustion or something if I dropped that much.

And damn it, so much for the walkers then.. Then again, by the time they go on sale I'll probably have caved in and bought good old regular multi-pose Sentinels anyway.

 BrookM wrote:
Regarding that walker, will there be different pilots? I'd hate to have to get three and be stuck with three bored out of their mind pilots..

they said in the update that she is a stand in until the actual pilot is finished... nothing to say that she won't be bored out her mind either though.


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Hopefully you'll at least get interchangeable heads though.

I dropped $1600 and really not even bothered by any delays so far... my guard are waiting patiently and I've been going on a Ork conversion spurge in the meantime.

I didn't spend quite that much but I'm not all to bothered by the delay either, gives me tijme to finish (or at least reduce) my pile of unpainted models. I'l start getting impatient when I run out of models to paint and haven't received somethign yet, but that will be a, uhm, long way off I reckon.

Do you think this first wave will hit retail once they are issued out to backers??