Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!

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**BrookM**

While we're at it, from their Tumblr, two days ago:

Photoshoot time for the girls #behindthescenes #wipwednesday #TGG #toughestgirlsofthegalaxy #figurines #miniatures #wargaming #3dprinting #3dsculpting #3Dprint #photoshoot #smile #girlsjustwanttohavefun

**-iPaint-**

By Crom, the hashtags! I never would have known what I was looking at without them.

~iPaint

**RoninXiC**

Yeah... they've been like this for quite some time. IMHO, using all those hashtags shows how .. unprofessional and immature they actually are.

**prankster**

So, that top box looks to be either Snow Ivanka or Natasha. Probably more likely to be Natasha as she is a wave one figure, even though she was the last freebie unlocked...

**Redbeard**

I wonder if they paid Amazon for their patented "take a picture with a white background".

**Mathieu Raymond**

Looks off-white to me, they'd be ok.

**BrookM**

RoninXiC wrote:
Yeah... they've been like this for quite some time. IMHO, using all those hashtags shows how .. unprofessional and immature they actually are.

Actually, the hashtags are to show that they're in sync with the community and know how to use social media, making a bold statement that they no longer need Raging Heralds for future projects.

**Alpharius**

But I thought social media is what has made us all so ungrateful, unrealistically demanding and gave us our short attention spans too?

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

I take great comfort that all those minis have been sorted into individual plastic bags, ready for packing into boxes for dispatch

no doubt after careful and detailed inspection of each and every one of them

(there was always the risk that RH would decide the mini in question didn't live up to expectation and send them back to be melted down, while the sculptors started again)

**BrookM**

Alpharius wrote:
But I thought social media is what has made us all so ungrateful, unrealistically demanding and gave us our short attention spans too?

And now, look at what they've become.

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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I take great comfort that all those minis have been sorted into individual plastic bags, ready for packing into boxes for dispatch

no doubt after careful and detailed inspection of each and every one of them

(there was always the risk that RH would decide the mini in question didn't live up to expectation and send them back to be melted down, while the sculptors started again)

At this stage I expect NOTHING LESS THAN PERFECTION from Raging Heroes.

**Mathieu Raymond**

Have they mentionned a system to exchange minis if there happens to be an accidental defect?

**Krinsath**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Have they mentionned a system to exchange minis if there happens to be an accidental defect?

There will be no defects.
And now, I must go.

(Joking aside this is a useful question; I would assume you would just contact their CS like any normal issue since they're an operating company who has had to deal with that before, but assuming the "logical" things has proven to be the dangerous path here.)

**Azazelx**

Redbeard wrote:
Azazelx wrote:

You're basically trolling at this point, and have been for awhile. I have indeed reported you recently (not today) for trolling but I also believe it's unlikely that any action will be taken against you/that you will be given preferential treatment/soft touch because you're a (tangental, apparently) member of staff and internet-friends with the other mods. It's human nature.

I'm glad we have such diligent watchdogs as you to make sure all potential infractions get reported. I'm sure you were a good hall monitor. Of course it came to nothing, I've done nothing wrong, other than use a tool differently than you want me to.
Just because I use a tool differently than you use it doesn't mean I'm trolling, and just because I disagree with the more vocal posters in this thread who feel righteous indignation over how RH has treated them doesn't mean I'm not allowed to express my views on the matter.

Nice ad hominem there. Well, actually it's pretty pissweak. But the fact of the matter is that I do believe you've done a lot of trolling in this thread, which is very distinct from disagreeing with me or anyone else, and I simply followed the proper procedure. Let's put it this way. You ask people a question, they reply. You then only respond to little or none of their reply, while making disparaging/insulting/etc comments, and accusing people who have put effort into replying to you of writing a "wall of text". So with that in mind, I'll just show you the same level of courtesy and simply skim-reply to selected parts of your wall of text below.

Actually I can't even be bothered doing that. I'll simply follow your own style again and be broadly dismissive of what you have to say instead. I do like the "you're all" that you've used below, though. Because anyone who disagrees with you is one homogeneous mass of disaffection, right? Tar and feather you? Damn, any room up there on the cross, oh great martyr? (see - that's my hyperbolic reply to your hall-monitor jab) You insulted others and people didn't like it. Social skills, much?

I'll finish by pointing out one thing. I'm totally fine with you or anyone else being satisfied with the way RH or anyone else runs their KS. I won't insult or disparage you for that. I haven't seen any of the "whiners" in this thread insult people who are happy/content/ok with the status quo, either.

I do take issue when you don't show others the same basic courtesy.

So anyway, at this point, I'm pretty much done with you.

I find the idea that a person has to address every "point" directed at them to be a bit ludicrous. Are we keeping score here? Is this a formal debate?

.... white-knight ...

And of course the derogatory terms for anyone who doesn't agree with you come out. Did you report yourself for this too?

. You also seem to want to continue making posts while acting aloof and too cool to read or process or remember what people say in direct reply to yourself and your questions. It's not a good look, quite frankly.

"A good look?" We have 220 pages of this thread. We have posters who disappear for hours (and days, if not weeks) at a time. I don't typically read much over the weekend. I didn't realize there was an obligation to go back over several days posts and make sure I had addressed every possible response that may have been directed at me. That's not how I use a forum. If that upsets you so much that you have to report me, I think the issue is yours, not mine. This isn't super-serious-land, and if I miss a post here or there, is that reason to tar and feather me? I respond to the ones I read, and that interest me. Maybe you're taking this all too seriously.

Even after going out of my way to re-read everything Buzzsaw referred to, I still think you're overreacting. It still seems the that basis for all this anger stems from a one-liner made in a comment - not an actual update, but a comment. And that's the exact sort of misstep you should expect from a Kickstarter. You're all acting like "they lied to me!", when I still don't see that. I see a quick response made once, in a comment, and never formalized in an update, which was the result of a guy without much PR experience getting flustered and bombarded with questions. That approach didn't work out, so they had to back away from it. And then to go after them for not explaining all their reasons for it on facebook? Really?

It doesn't take a lot of thinking to see why they'd want to finalize the pledge manager process. This is a company that has no experience dealing with the logistics and size of this project.

**Kilkrazy**

It would be better to get back on to the topic.

**alanmckenzie**

Ok.....

Where.... the gak..... is.... my.... stuff?......

And what.... the gak... kind of pledge manager...... needs a live.... chat.... feature?.....

Now.....

**Buzzsaw**

I had put in a PM to RH through Kickstarter about this, haven't heard back (shocking!), but can anyone remember a statement about Nephyra? She's one of their flagship models, has a render on the front page of the campaign, is one of the oldest (is it possible she was actually the first?) models they pimped for this campaign, but now she has only concept art.

In all seriousness, the renders shown in the campaign made it look like she was ready to go to the printer, and now there is nothing for her? This is disconcerting.

**BrookM**

Same with Wolfenstein, she was shown around a lot as a pre-KS promo image.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Nothing specific has been said,

But they've junked and redone a fair few figures they had done as early renders as (they said) once they'd done a bunch the newer stuff just looked better and they didn't want to go with inferior stuff

so as an early render it may well be Nephyra that was has been junked and is yet to be re-done

(it could also be that all the little spindly arms weren't going to be any good once cast so they've got to do some serious rethinking for technical rather than artistic reasons)

**UNCLEBADTOUCH**

In regard to nepharaya I asked about that numerous times, the last I heard was that they want to redo do it but hadn't got round to it yet (they seemed to imply that it just kept slipping their minds #topsecretworkflow). As that was the mini I pledged on the basis of due to what looked like a finished render I can tell you I will be none too happy if it ends up substantively different.

**KalashnikovMarine**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
So I made some changes, based on renders in particular,

Ivanka Kruganova
Commander Elektra
One Shot Blondie
Karmina Noxx
Arushka
Snipers
General Ilsa Wolfenstein
Nepharya (Necro Priestess)
Werewolves (Zagrath and Sheera)

To this list:

Ivanka Kruganova
Commander Elektra
One Shot Blondie
Karmina Noxx
Volga Potemkine
Snipers
General Ilsa Wolfenstein
Nepharya (Necro Priestess)
Werewolves (Zagrath and Vankaree)

Not many changes, but I dropped a soul weaver for an Army Standard.

My theory is this gives me my snipers and sniper hero, and with the KST freebies I have quite the command squad with Elektra, Volga, Natasha and Karoline, all backed up by two of the Wereshewolves lead by Svetlana. Not a bad little squad all told.

So that leads into the waffling. I'm considering dropping Ivanka for another heroine model, there's some other cool minis in the KST range, and ones I think will be cool could turn out completely differently. I'm also considering those two squads of troops.

Okay this is it, the final list and I'm closing out the pledge manager.

Commander Elektra
Ludmilla (KST Strategist)
One Shot Blondie
Karmina Noxx
Volga Potemkine
Snipers
General Ilsa Wolfenstein
Werewolves (Zagrath and Vankaree)
10 girl KST Heavy squad

and I decided to go with ship on completion just to keep it simple. Wave shipping was almost double cost for me.

So for just shy of $200 I will receive:
13x troops (counting snipers)
2x monstrous creatures
6x named heroines

Then adding in the freebies
11x heroines (counting Drusilla, why the feth is she in a different category?)
4x mascots

So not a bad pile of white metal I think.

**ecurtz**

Just a quick warning to everyone.

I had added all of the freebies (thanks for making us do this rather than making it automatic) when the pledge manager opened but not submitted my order. When I logged in today my cart was empty, so be sure to triple check before you submit anything.

**prankster**

Yeah, it seems that the cookie they're using for the cart goes away when you close/restart your browser. Which is kind of understandable, but also annoying if you want to come back later and actually finalise things.

**Jimsolo**

Yeah, they warned us (or at least me, at any rate) in the email that included my invite to the pledge manager.

I think that the reason we have to add all the freebies manually is that a number of people have pledges too small to include the freebies, and they were looking for a 'one size fits all' pledge manager.

**RiTides**

ecurtz wrote:
Just a quick warning to everyone.

I had added all of the freebies (thanks for making us do this rather than making it automatic) when the pledge manager opened but not submitted my order. When I logged in today my cart was empty, so be sure to triple check before you submit anything.

Thanks for the heads up!

And now, I must go.

**H.B.M.C.**

Alpharius wrote:
The blackest of Black Knights for one, the Whitest of White for another!

Absolute horse gak.

**Alpharius**

Agreed!

Anyway...

...has there been any progress on a first ship date, and/or a potential retail availability date?

I know there's most likely nothing concrete, but even an estimate would be nice.

**BrookM**

That would be asking for too much, let's see if they can stick to a successful closure of their ~~on-line store~~ pledge manager first..

**rayphoton**

Doing this pledge manager thing has reminded me of one awful awful fact. I pledged tooooo much money to this.

And I don't mind the delays or the weird company or the lack of renders....I'm chill about thew whole thing.

But Christ when you choose everything you want and then realize you still have like...300 dollars to go......I must have been delirious or on coke something

**ecurtz**

Jimsolo wrote:
Yeah, they warned us (or at least me, at any rate) in the email that included my invite to the pledge manager.

I think that the reason we have to add all the freebies manually is that a number of people have pledges too small to include the freebies, and they were looking for a 'one size fits all' pledge manager.

It actually explicitly says in their "how it works" page that your cart should remain as long as you don't manually clear your cookies. Combined with the "no freebies for you unless you make sure to add them yourself" policy I thought the warning was extra important. As the store is already deciding what goes onto your freebies page based on the pledge it would have been utterly trivial to add them into your cart.

**alanmckenzie**

Well, just finalised my order (and somehow spent an extra $90) . Kinda decided that as much as I wanted to see as many final renders as possible, I'm not sure my choices would change too much (and there's nothing really to say that the renders wont).

Still don't think it was the smoothest PM.
Still don't see why there had to be the strict deadline.

But, it's done now. And I'm quite excited again, as I usually get when I spend time looking closely at the minis (or concept art/renders/whatever) rather than searching for funny animated gifs.

Oh well....

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