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Thanking you, gentlemen.

*BAH* Ork fighting Marines

Hope the codex has some more examples like this.

Erebus and Kor Phaeron...I am stunned. I didn't think such beautiful models could be made.

Erebus looks pretty sweet... they need to get Horus and Mortarion out before Massacre though, kinda annoying.

Dang this work computer, still can't get the links to work.

Where are you seeing Erebus and Kor"phaeron in those pics? They're too blurry for me to make out the army lists which I assume is where your seeing them?

 Lobukia wrote:
Erebus looks pretty sweet... they need to get Horus and Mortarion out before Massacre though, kinda annoying.

Where can I find Pics of Erebus and Kor pheron at?

Chaos Marine beat the SM in the SM's own battle report? Ough. Chaos did bring a Baledrake though.

The two last pictures on the Chinese site have Erebus and a Kor Phaeron WiP and Erebus is sexy as hell!

Welp, gonna have to go buy the new WD.

Between that, the things I need to finish converting my SW, and getting my mitts on a Stormraven finally, along with the book, this is gonna be expensive.

Also,

Off topic, Erebus is one of the best models I've ever seen.
Kor Phaeron though? His right arm is too short.

There was a guy on here who said about the Templar Honour Guard unit... I saw a converted set today.

Looks mighty impressive.

Puscifer wrote:
Kor Phaeron though? His right arm is too short.

Umm, you think it might have something to do with the fact that his right arm is on a curved magazine page in a gakky picture? Or you know, held back with the elbow tightly folded?

 Shadox wrote:
The two last pictures on the Chinese site have Erebus and a Kor Phaeron WiP and Erebus is sexy as hell!

What chinese site?

 Gitsmasher wrote:

 Shadox wrote:
The two last pictures on the Chinese site have Erebus and a Kor Phaeron WiP and Erebus is sexy as hell!

What chinese site?

It's linked like three times in the last couple pages:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2556593497

Sorry, just seen those Centurion things for the first time. Hilarious! (which is a bad thing, space marine stuff should not be funny)

 pretre wrote:

 Gitsmasher wrote:

 Shadox wrote:
The two last pictures on the Chinese site have Erebus and a Kor Phaeron WiP and Erebus is sexy as hell!

What chinese site?

It's linked like three times in the last couple pages:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2556593497

Thanks brother

Yeah, they are irredeemably awful.

I mean, I can look at the Storm Turkeys and say "Well, I think I can convert that into something that isn't awful."

There's no hope for those Centurion kits. The only thing anyone will ever end up with is a model that is "slightly less" awful.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So in the battle report 2 centurions die to small arms fire and the last one flees. At least they're not trying to oversell the new toys

"We here at GW do not really know how to play the game. We are what you would call a fluff player. Luckily for you, we are not competent list builders, which gives you the opportunity to have imbalanced combibations."

Or as they say in WD, "we play several games and choose the best", whatever that means...

Please guys, learn to play or at least know the rules :(

 Deadshot wrote:

 Salted Diamond wrote:
I might have missed it somewhere, but are the limited ed covers going to be the same price as the regular? I didn't pay attention when the Tau and Eldar limited ones came out to remember.

Not a chance. Hell will have long frozen over before that happens. You're looking at close to double a regular codex, maybe more considering its SM.

Or the Toronto Maple Leafs winning the Stanley Cup?

Seeing the way the Chapter Tactics works out makes a lot more sense. The earlier rumors made it out like UM's would be able to always reroll 1's etc for shooting, instead it's really just one turn, which makes it much less ridiculous but still rather good, while having the other two as well makes for an interesting incentive to build "a little bit of everything" armies to take best advantage of such abilities, which is kind of a cool way to do UM's.

Hmm, was eyeballing the WD pics and spotted the Sternguard listing as follows (Under Sword Brethren):

10 Sternguard Vets for 295 pts
1 Heavy Flamer
2 Combi-gravs
Castellan (Sgt) with:
1 grav pistol
1 power sword
Melta Bomb

Assuming the Sternguard are 22pts apiece as per rumor, this would mean 220pts, leaving 75pts for upgrades.

Assuming no change in price for the HF, PS, and Melta Bombs (10,15,5) you're down to 45 points for the grav weapons.

If the rumors are true, and combi-weps are indeed 10pts a piece for Sterns, that means that Grav Pistol cost 25pts.

It is possible that the combi-gravs are specifically more expensive (15pts?), due to rare tech or whatnot, which would make the pistol 15pts as well.

I'm assuming there is no cost to upgrade to a Vet Sgt aka DAs, as the entire unit is made up of 1st Company Veterans after all

What do you guys think?

Do I have the points right, and what do you think this means for the cost of grav weapons if this is true?

So a Grav Pistol is likely going to be 15pts.

I'm liking the photos I've seen even if I couldn't view them in IE.

Ok, other than the dust jacket, what is justifying the $115 price of the collectors editions?

 SickSix wrote:
Ok, other than the dust jacket, what is justifying the $115 price of the collectors editions?

Well, to fund the GW employee only Space Marine Codex release keg party of course!

The dust jacket

 Instinctual wrote:
Hmm, was eyeballing the WD pics and spotted the Sternguard listing as follows (Under Sword Brethren):

10 Sternguard Vets for 295 pts
1 Heavy Flamer
2 Combi-gravs
Castellan (Sgt) with:
1 grav pistol
1 power sword
Melta Bomb

Assuming the Sternguard are 22pts apiece as per rumor, this would mean 220pts, leaving 75pts for upgrades.
Assuming no change in price for the HF, PS, and Melta Bombs (10,15,5) you're down to 45 points for the grav weapons.
If the rumors are true, and combi-weps are indeed 10pts a piece for Sterns, that means that Grav Pistol cost 25pts.
It is possible that the combi-gravs are specifically more expensive (15pts?), due to rare tech or whatnot, which would make the pistol 15pts as well.
I'm assuming there is no cost to upgrade to a Vet Sgt aka DAs, as the entire unit is made up of 1st Company Veterans after all
What do you guys think?
Do I have the points right, and what do you think this means for the cost of grav weapons if this is true?

I thought I had read something about Heavy Flamers costing more this edition. I don't remember where, but I thought their cost went up 5 pts or something.

DogofWar1 wrote:

 Instinctual wrote:
Hmm, was eyeballing the WD pics and spotted the Sternguard listing as follows (Under Sword Brethren):

10 Sternguard Vets for 295 pts
1 Heavy Flamer
2 Combi-gravs
Castellan (Sgt) with:
1 grav pistol
1 power sword
Melta Bomb

Assuming the Sternguard are 22pts apiece as per rumor, this would mean 220pts, leaving 75pts for upgrades.
Assuming no change in price for the HF, PS, and Melta Bombs (10,15,5) you're down to 45 points for the grav weapons.
If the rumors are true, and combi-weps are indeed 10pts a piece for Sterns, that means that Grav Pistol cost 25pts.
It is possible that the combi-gravs are specifically more expensive (15pts?), due to rare tech or whatnot, which would make the pistol 15pts as well.
I'm assuming there is no cost to upgrade to a Vet Sgt aka DAs, as the entire unit is made up of 1st Company Veterans after all
What do you guys think?
Do I have the points right, and what do you think this means for the cost of grav weapons if this is true?

I thought I had read something about Heavy Flamers costing more this edition. I don't remember where, but I thought their cost went up 5 pts or something.

If so, and assuming no Sgt upgrade cost and 10pt combis, that would make the Grav pistol 20pts or so.

 SickSix wrote:
Ok, other than the dust jacket, what is justifying the $115 price of the collectors editions?

The artwork (genuinely gorgeous in the case of the 1st Foundings) and the other menial add-ons like edged, "ultra high quality paper" and the priviledge of being 1 of 500.

Do you think they are going to have a white background?

It's really getting a bit embarrassing now, every release GW put out more and more cartoonish stuff, and FW turn round and just shame them.

Angron, Contemptors, Legion Praetors, Mechanicum units(and an army list rumoured for HH book 2), and now these two beauties? Hell, I'll be buying them just for the heads nevermind the rest of it, incredible character.

I think this might be my first solo FW order where I get free shipping

@YODHRIN I have not bought any Gw stuff for two years. FW all the way, the price is the same at this point. YES, yes I know the two are one and the same but wow, Fw just blows them away.