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2013/08/28 12:32:32
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
- Glad I to see GW is still catering to their core army, tha Spaze Marinezzz.
- Glad to know GW does know how make a codex where multiple similar armies are supported out of one codex.
- Glad to know I didn't waste my money on the CSM codex
- Glad to know I don't continue to waste money on GW products
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2013/08/28 12:52:48
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
Barfolomew wrote: - Glad to know I don't continue to waste money on GW products
Just time posting in threads about GW products
On a serious note I like the Libby and his little flying baby friend. That said I play a counts-as Iron Warriors force so I won't be picking him up but the Sternguard and new anti-flyer tanks might pull me in. Otherwise I've just picked up parts for 30 marines that I'll make 100% customizable with crested helms for my "allied" marines with different chapter tactics. Oh, and I need to see how big a centurion is so I can get the ball rolling on converting 4 to fit the IW theme
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2013/08/28 12:54:23
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
Barfolomew wrote: - Glad I to see GW is still catering to their core army, tha Spaze Marinezzz.
- Glad to know GW does know how make a codex where multiple similar armies are supported out of one codex.
- Glad to know I didn't waste my money on the CSM codex
- Glad to know I don't continue to waste money on GW products
Why are you here?
2013/08/28 13:58:30
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
Leth wrote: I think someone was saying that the sternguard kit will come with two modular bolters. So you can take the combi weapon bit and then slot it on the bolter, they will then provide all the different weapon bits(and the rest can be converted)
All in all I am really looking forward to getting my hands on that sternguard kit......They will make AWESOME sergeants.
Is this correct? Only twin combi-bolters? I'm planning to use these Sterns as sgts as well, but I was hoping it would be easy to make all five with combis. Oh well...time for more practice with green stuff.
2013/08/28 14:04:08
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
Leth wrote: I think someone was saying that the sternguard kit will come with two modular bolters. So you can take the combi weapon bit and then slot it on the bolter, they will then provide all the different weapon bits(and the rest can be converted)
All in all I am really looking forward to getting my hands on that sternguard kit......They will make AWESOME sergeants.
Is this correct? Only twin combi-bolters? I'm planning to use these Sterns as sgts as well, but I was hoping it would be easy to make all five with combis. Oh well...time for more practice with green stuff.
Or time to convert stormbolters if you don't mind the side by side look.
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2013/08/28 15:33:11
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
In the past, I've done press-molding to make combi-meltas with chopped up infernus pistols. I'm hoping the new modular bits are easier to use in this way, and that my skills with press-molding have increased (because those other combi-meltas look...well...bad, to be charitable).
2013/08/28 15:48:03
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
We'll see what the actual sprues look like. Even if it's just a small number of bolters, with optional cobmi parts, that's still very nice. Add magnets for versatility, or take spare normal bolters and hack them up to make new combis. I suspect that it will be much easier to take the leftover combi bits from the sternguard set and work with them, as opposed to cutting down a full melta/plasma/flamer and merging it with a normal bolter.
And this is all assuming a lot about how things are set up. I'm sure it will work out just fine.
None of the Combi-weapons so far in the sternguard pics look like they would work as a modular design. It would also be just as easy to make full combi-bolters as opposed to bolter bases and extra parts.
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MajorWesJanson wrote: None of the Combi-weapons so far in the sternguard pics look like they would work as a modular design. It would also be just as easy to make full combi-bolters as opposed to bolter bases and extra parts.
Also, from the pics, there are at least 4 bolter bases which seem to correlate with various combi-weapons- There is a combi-plasma with a box magazine seen in the DA squad and older BT sternguard. DA also have a combiplas with a drum mag. Combi-melta with a curved stick mag, and combi-grav with a shot straight stick mag.
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2013/08/28 16:39:01
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
xruslanx wrote:
Yeah, anyone wierded out by cyber-cherubs must have been suffering some form of selective blindness for the last decade or so, because they've been plastered all over the page margins of rulebooks and the artworks for that whole time.
While they did appear on some models related to the various branches of the Inquisition, it is only recently that GW has decided to start plastering them on Space Marine miniatures. I don't know what designer thought it was a good idea to put cherub plumber's crack right on the front of a character model.
This thread has been odd, I never realised how many people play 40K but apparently hate the art, background, and themes the whole game is based on.
Maybe, just maybe, people like some elements and dislike others. Nah, can't be that!
To see why people don't like them, take some text from a 40k novel where it describes armour or equipment and then add in text describing the naked form of a childlike cherub.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
2013/08/28 16:47:48
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
Barfolomew wrote: - Glad I to see GW is still catering to their core army, tha Spaze Marinezzz.
- Glad to know GW does know how make a codex where multiple similar armies are supported out of one codex.
- Glad to know I didn't waste my money on the CSM codex
- Glad to know I don't continue to waste money on GW products
You are right, I thought I had heard that somewhere, but maybe they will be giving us one of each then in the sternguard box. heck that alone will almost justify their price after how much combi-meltas costed......Might have to start trading some of the 10+ that I got.
It will be interesting to see combi-grav/grav and where it will see the largest presence if any at all. I am sure the centurions will be making a splash but we shall see...
People who stopped buying GW but wont stop bitching about it are the vegans of warhammer
I tried asking this some pages ago, but never got a confirmation. After the White Dwarf this Saturday showing the new material for Space Marines and the pre-orders going live, how long til everything is actually released, or available to be purchased in GW stores? A week? Two?
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2013/08/28 16:58:51
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
Lucarikx wrote: Its usually 1 week. GW did that for Tau and Eldar, so I'm pretty sure they would do the same with SM.
Lucarikx
I hope so, thanks! I'll be in Europe until September 9 and unless everything is released until then, I'll miss it.
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2013/08/28 17:06:35
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
See if GW changes / goes out of business / has a revelation / gets bought out / follow Privateer Press
Follow PP? Why would they want to make lousy miniatures or crappy games like Warmahordes?
He was talking about himself, not GW. Note "why are you here" not "why is GW here".
Also, a reason GW might want to pay attention to PP is that PP is growing while GW is stagnating. Hopefully this Space Marine release can actually do some work in turning things around for GW and return them to growth.
Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
2013/08/28 17:19:34
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
See if GW changes / goes out of business / has a revelation / gets bought out / follow Privateer Press
Follow PP? Why would they want to make lousy miniatures or crappy games like Warmahordes?
He was talking about himself, not GW. Note "why are you here" not "why is GW here".
Also, a reason GW might want to pay attention to PP is that PP is growing while GW is stagnating. Hopefully this Space Marine release can actually do some work in turning things around for GW and return them to growth.
GW is going to stagnate to the point where the Imperium of Man looks progressive by contrast. As good as some of things in this release are they need to do alot more to bring back players or even keep them.
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Games Workshop: Ruining Chaos Space Marines since 2007
First they raised prices on the Eldar, and I did not speak out because I did not play Eldar.
Then, they raised prices on the Orks, and I did not speak out because I did not play Orks.
Then, they raised prices on the Nids, and I did not speak out because I did not play Nids.
Then, they raised prices on the Marines, and there was nobody to speak out for me.
2013/08/28 17:21:55
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
Barfolomew wrote: - Glad I to see GW is still catering to their core army, tha Spaze Marinezzz.
- Glad to know GW does know how make a codex where multiple similar armies are supported out of one codex.
- Glad to know I didn't waste my money on the CSM codex
- Glad to know I don't continue to waste money on GW products
They already released Tau, Eldar, and Daemons, and Necrons was more or less 6th optimized. At some point they have to do Space Marines.
Good lord. If you're going to be a hater, at least have something intelligent or clever to say.
Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?
I predict all the people talking about how awful the new codex is now are going to also complain about it once its actually released, but for entirely different reasons. They just want to complain.
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Well they mention Matt for the batrep, and he plays exclusively Marines of every type right? How many MEQ does he have no?
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2013/08/28 18:27:46
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
I wasn't refering to Ward, I was refering to the guy who has like 5 Marine armies, Hudson I think?
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2013/08/28 19:03:52
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
Deadshot wrote: I wasn't refering to Ward, I was refering to the guy who has like 5 Marine armies, Hudson I think?
If it's Matt Hudson(I think there was a Matt Hutson as well who fits in the same general area I'm about to discuss)--then yeah. He has a bajillion armies--most of them nicely converted as well.
From what I remember though he is part of the 'Eavy Metal team(or what passes for it now) and gets used for Battle Reports as well because of how long he has been there.
But just remember that there are quite a few "Matts" at GW in the studio. Purportedly that is why Ward was credited as "Mat Ward" rather than "Matthew" or "Matt" at times.
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2013/08/28 19:49:55
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
One of my good friends got a job on the Heavy Metal Team.
She is going to outshine them all in her new role.
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2013/08/28 19:56:46
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
Davespil wrote: I love how you have 6-7 different versions of power armor over the course of the hobby but the only change game-wise has been aesthetic. I think 3rd ed was Mark 2 or 3 and the new space Marines are on 7 or 8. Yet, the armor has not gotten better in anyway. Still a 3+, still a T4, and they aren't moving any faster. So what was the reason for the changes in armor? Did the Imperium just want to keep up with the latest fashions in power armor?
Yeah, I get that maybe they are bit more comfortable and easier to produce. But after all of these modification wouldn't they offer more protection? Or at least make the SM tougher or faster?
They get cheaper and easier to repair
No they dont get any better on a d6 scale. Where the difference between a man and a space marine is 1 point of strength and toughness and the difference between a man in carpace armor and SM power armor is also only 1 point on a d6 scale no minor improvement are going to change anything.
Also Mk4 maximus armor was made when the imperium was at its greatest technological level and thus everything made after it is like trying to build a PS4 with bits from radio shack.
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2013/08/28 19:59:30
Subject: Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]
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