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 ironicsilence wrote:
Back on topic, are there any models that jump out that people most want to see included in this KS?

IMEF marines. I want more poses. I'm a bit disappointed they're offering stuff that's already available. Although on the flipside, I'd like to get that giant undead dragon at the kickstarter price.

A little annoyed there are so many dragons included, and the figures don't really seem too well sculpted this time around. But I'm sure fantasy fans want tons of dragons, and in any case, I'm sure they'll offer more stuff.

Would love to see more Chronoscope and sci-fi, though.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Look at the bright side, Chris - there's more zombies in again this time!

 Azazelx wrote:
Look at the bright side, Chris - there's more zombies in again this time!

I really hope the next update has something worthwhile in it. It seems like we're only getting one exciting stretch goal this week.

Yeah, this thing has just been crawling along, I've had zero interest in anything at all since we hit the $1million mark. I like that you can double up on the subsets now, BonesI had that from the very start, not sure why Bones II waited so long for it.

I think Reaper overestimated how successful their new "Master of the House"* add-on policy was going to be. Also, durned furriners.



*Master of the House (stretch goal -- $12)
Quick to catch your eye (stretch goal -- part of $50 expansion)
Never wants a passer-by (stretch goal -- 6 for $10)
to pass him by.

Charge 'em for the lice (stretch goal -- added to vermin expansion, $50)
Extra for the mice (stretch goal -- 10 for $15)
Two percent for looking in the mirror twice (stretch goal -- adds mirror to dungeon dressing, 8 pieces for $15)

Here a little slice (stretch goal -- 4 slicers and one coked-up rat stripper, $10)
There a little cut (stretch goal -- core expansion no one wants)
Three percent for sleeping with the window shut! (stretch goal -- added to dungeon dressing, 9 pieces for $15)

When it comes to fixing prices,
there are lots of tricks Reaper knows.
How it all increases--
All those bits and pieces--
Jebus, it's amazing how slowly the campaign grows!

etc.

Bonus points for the Les Mis reference Bob

The sad thing is I haven't seen or heard Les Miserables in years, but the song jumped straight to the forefront of my thoughts as soon as I read that first line.

I will never admit to spending formative years of my early adolescence listening to the soundtrack to Les Mes over and over again on cassette while reading old D&D campaign books and pouring over Ral Partha, Citadel, and Grenadier catalogs when no one else was home...ahh, the secret life of a closet nerd.

WERESHARK! AND MERMAIDS!!! Those mermaids look like they would be a ton of fun to paint.(I'd post the images but I'm on my phone)

Project Update #39: $1,550,000 Achieved!
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Verocithrax: Dragon Lord of the Abyssal, Spawn of Chaos, The Nightmare Wyrm can now be added to your rewards simply by increasing your pledge by $15!
To help you calculate your new pledge, you can use this link:
https://ks.reapermini.com/
Simply register or log in, and start playing around! It won't permanently lock in your choices at this time, it's a tool to help you calculate your pledge and (if applicable) postage.




We're working on unlcoking the last part of Expansion #1 now! That's a lot of incredibly cool models!
And after that, We've got a some Deep-Sea friends ready to come play!


At $1,824,000, these 5 models, including the massive Wereshark, the sea hag, two Kelpies, and a mermaid vampire (or demon-blood mermaid, or just evil mermaid!) will be ready to join your increasing Core Set - you don't need to do anything to get these additional rewards! Once we reach this goal, they will be automatically included in your Core Set reward!

Use this icon to show off your proud support of Bones II!


To make it easier for you to track, purple images will be added to your Core Set, ochre ones are Expansion 1, and orange ones will be available as additional rewards simply by increasing your pledge - the Pledge Claculator can help you keep track of it all at https://ks.reapermini.com/
Follow along with us on the map, as Mister Bones goes Trick-or-Treating, and be sure to follow us on twitter @Reapermini, talk about the Kickstarter using #ReaperBones, Like us on FaceBook, and join our forums at reapermini.com/forum to join in the conversation!

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Never admit? Les Mis is my favourite musical, and I don't care who knows it!

Anyway, 28-50k per day isn't shattering records, but I remain a believer that this is simply the slow burn. Steady progress upwards, giving people time to spread the word.

I suspect around the final week will be where it starts getting hectic, and the last 2 days (when the reminder emails go out) will simply get out of hand.

Given how transparent they were about the costs they incurred during the last campaign, I still think it speaks highly of them to spread things out a little, build in a bit of a buffer early. They're approaching 12k backers, which I believe is around 3/4 the number of the last campaign and they still have over 2 weeks to go.

Don't get me wrong, it would be nice to see this explode and watch multiple stretch goals unlock in an hour, but it's not sustainable until the end is nigh anyway, so why worry?

That said, I'm definitely appreciating the calculator. Looks like I can double up on the two dungeon decor sets for barely any increase in S&H. If I was going to give a suggestion for Bones 3 (assuming there will be one), it'd be to have said calculator ready at launch. It'd allay a lot of fears (and save a lot of forum pages) to know exactly what "actual shipping" means.

Update #39

Oct 10, 2013
$1,550,000 Achieved!
27 comments
19 likes




Verocithrax: Dragon Lord of the Abyssal, Spawn of Chaos, The Nightmare Wyrm can now be added to your rewards simply by increasing your pledge by $15!
To help you calculate your new pledge, you can use this link:
https://ks.reapermini.com/
Simply register or log in, and start playing around! It won't permanently lock in your choices at this time, it's a tool to help you calculate your pledge and (if applicable) postage.



We're working on unlcoking the last part of Expansion #1 now! That's a lot of incredibly cool models!
And after that, We've got a some Deep-Sea friends ready to come play!



At $1,824,000, these 5 models, including the massive Wereshark, the sea hag, two Kelpies, and a mermaid vampire (or demon-blood mermaid, or just evil mermaid!) will be ready to join your increasing Core Set - you don't need to do anything to get these additional rewards! Once we reach this goal, they will be automatically included in your Core Set reward!

Use this icon to show off your proud support of Bones II!



To make it easier for you to track, purple images will be added to your Core Set, ochre ones are Expansion 1, and orange ones will be available as additional rewards simply by increasing your pledge - the Pledge Claculator can help you keep track of it all at https://ks.reapermini.com/

Follow along with us on the map, as Mister Bones goes Trick-or-Treating, and be sure to follow us on twitter @Reapermini, talk about the Kickstarter using #ReaperBones, Like us on FaceBook, and join our forums at reapermini.com/forum to join in the conversation!

THANK YOU!

Yeeeeeeeees, the Wereshark!

I posted my comments on the message board but I doubt anyone saw it as it got drowned in a sea of nonsense.

I seriously hope that wereshark is molded with the correct right arm.

My copy, and every copy I've seen in my three somewhat local stores has had the arm from one of the smaller weresharks included instead. I had to contact reaper to make sure I got the right arm. Hope they have it corrected.

While the mermaids are nice, I would have preferred nothing but sharkmen. I guess with the kelpies and mermaids you get a lot more variety and versatility for RPG players. Except most people seem most excited about the wereshark.

PM them on KS

(they're much more likely to see it there than in the comments)

 General Seric wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:


I'd like updates coming even if it's WIPs of new sculpts, alternative shots, something- just keep interest drummed up. Not every update has to have new shinies. Mantic's pretty good about this- keeping you informed, showing off what's coming, teasing future stretches... I'd like to see something similar from Reaper.

I think part of the problem for this is that, unlike the first Kickstarter, they really aren't doing any new sculpts (other than the gelatinous cube). Which seems odd to me, as some of the new sculpts last time were in the end some of my favorites of them all, but maybe they are afraid that some will not get done like last time with the 2 elf sculpts.

There's some new sculpts, but no Chronoscope or IMEF marines.

 Azazelx wrote:
Look at the bright side, Chris - there's more zombies in again this time!

They're not 28mm scale modern zombies, or fantasy zombies that could pass for modern zombies. I don't know what's the issue, how hard would it be to make five generic zombies that you could collect a ton of in Bones? You could just fob it off to some trainee sculptors even, they don't have to be perfect.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

I like the look of the mermaids. Not so keen on the shark though

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:


While the mermaids are nice, I would have preferred nothing but sharkmen. I guess with the kelpies and mermaids you get a lot more variety and versatility for RPG players. Except most people seem most excited about the wereshark.

The wereshark is definitely the highlight of that stretch goal. I'm sure there are a few people clapping over the kelpies, but I don't know them and I don't want to know them. The less said about SeaNagash, the better. (I'm surprised they didn't choose to spend thousands tooling a model that doesn't make people sad.)

Altogether, this update fills me with an emotion that isn't joy, but isn't unhappiness, either. I feel a sense of holistic okayness.


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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
The sad thing is I haven't seen or heard Les Miserables in years, but the song jumped straight to the forefront of my thoughts as soon as I read that first line.

I will never admit to spending formative years of my early adolescence listening to the soundtrack to Les Mes over and over again on cassette while reading old D&D campaign books and pouring over Ral Partha, Citadel, and Grenadier catalogs when no one else was home...ahh, the secret life of a closet nerd.

I must have gone to the right school. We had a field trip to see Les Miserables. Everyone was singing that song for months.

Eeeh. I can't say I'm terribly thrilled with those undersea things. The shark is kind of cool, but the rest are rather boring. If we're going to get sea based life, give me more of those fish guys like we had from Bones I or that were included at the very beginning of this one. Those guys are way cooler.

Chris, I am totally with you on wanting more sci-fi or Chronoscope stuff. The existing urban zombies from Chronoscope would be wonderful to have in plastic and there's a nice variety to them, too.

no word on whether the bases are bones material or a bit harder

EDIT:

Creator Reaper Miniatures 18 minutes ago

It is our plan to make these bases at our Texas facility, out of the same black material as our current round and square slotted bases.

so now we know

Deepwars has got you covered for all your fishmen needs.

I too wish we'd get more Tiiks or whatever Reaper calls those dudes. Or even just more weird bipedal fish monstrosities. Like were sunfishes, or something strange. Eel men.

I know my daughter will probably want the kelpies. I guess we'll find a use for them.

The extra bases on the other hand... those I can always use.

Extra bases are always needed! Wil save me from buying any for this kickstarter anyway.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
They have also added the option to add multiples of the various stretch goals:

Mmmm, that's nice, as I'd only want some of the figs. However, I'd have to take a "Wave 7" $1 pledge to be able to pledge for them, whereas if they'd had these options listed at the beginning I could've done so then.

I think the wave shipping is a good, realistic idea for on-time fulfillment, but it does deter later pledges...

I think I would have prefered more "Costal" monsters, than undersea, per say. Things like Sea Hags, and giants.

Those are kinda meh, imo, but they are free in my pledge. I'm looking forward to what we are going to see in Expansion 2, as that seems to be where they are keeping all the awesome minis!

 RiTides wrote:

Mmmm, that's nice, as I'd only want some of the figs. However, I'd have to take a "Wave 7" $1 pledge to be able to pledge for them, whereas if they'd had these options listed at the beginning I could've done so then.

I think the wave shipping is a good, realistic idea for on-time fulfillment, but it does deter later pledges...

Well, a KS with stretch goals works best with pledges earlier than later. That builds the momentum as the stretch goals are hit.

The drawback of listing options is committing to them and the goal amounts. Not listing them allows the creator to change goals during the campaign, as well as the stretch goal amounts to reach them.

KS is really for the creators, not the backers. Blah blah blah artificial scarcity blah blah blah.

Anyway, $1 will get you 50 bases for $10, free shipping in US. You have to wait a *long* time (you could ask if they can be shipped earlier b/c they're not Bonesium), though.

To be fair, the difference between Wave 1 and Wave 7 is currently 3 months. Yeah, it's a considerable chunk of time, but that seems pretty reasonable for spacing out around 14,000 orders.

After calculating the shipping, i dont think 200 bucks are that much for Core + Expansion 1. Anyone know how Reaper staff is about paing via Paypal? Or about solving "personal issues" about money?

 chris_valera wrote:

 General Seric wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:


I'd like updates coming even if it's WIPs of new sculpts, alternative shots, something- just keep interest drummed up. Not every update has to have new shinies. Mantic's pretty good about this- keeping you informed, showing off what's coming, teasing future stretches... I'd like to see something similar from Reaper.

I think part of the problem for this is that, unlike the first Kickstarter, they really aren't doing any new sculpts (other than the gelatinous cube). Which seems odd to me, as some of the new sculpts last time were in the end some of my favorites of them all, but maybe they are afraid that some will not get done like last time with the 2 elf sculpts.

There's some new sculpts, but no Chronoscope or IMEF marines.

 Azazelx wrote:
Look at the bright side, Chris - there's more zombies in again this time!

They're not 28mm scale modern zombies, or fantasy zombies that could pass for modern zombies. I don't know what's the issue, how hard would it be to make five generic zombies that you could collect a ton of in Bones? You could just fob it off to some trainee sculptors even, they don't have to be perfect.

--Chris

chris valera (.com) have you seen Studio Miniatures hard plastic zombies?

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=plastic-modern-zombie-boxset-%2860%29~smzp001&category=miniatures~studio-zombies-%2F-survivors

http://www.studiominiatures.com/shop/zombies.html

 The Dwarf Wolf wrote:
After calculating the shipping, i dont think 200 bucks are that much for Core + Expansion 1. Anyone know how Reaper staff is about paing via Paypal? Or about solving "personal issues" about money?

Pretty flexible, plus last time around they had a late comer option open for about a month where people who missed the KS could get in at a small premium (think it was 25% over KS rates). Contact ReaperBryan and explain your situation and he will probably be able to give you a heads up on what they have planned.

With Global campaigns like this...payments become an issue for a variety of reasons, and Reaper tend to be pretty acomodating.


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 Forar wrote:
To be fair, the difference between Wave 1 and Wave 7 is currently 3 months. Yeah, it's a considerable chunk of time, but that seems pretty reasonable for spacing out around 14,000 orders.

I don't recall if it was a post on the Reaper boards, the KS comments or in conversation - but the lead times on the shipments are greatly padded this time around. They believe they should be able to have things shipped much faster than the Waves would indicate - but in order to prevent possible hang ups along the way, they have gone ahead and added in a few extra months beyond what they are expecting it will take.


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 RiTides wrote:


I think the wave shipping is a good, realistic idea for on-time fulfillment, but it does deter later pledges...

Or it encourages them to get inline earlier rather than risk being in Wave 20 and waiting till after ReaperCon sometime in 2015.


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 Kalamadea wrote:
Yeah, this thing has just been crawling along, I've had zero interest in anything at all since we hit the $1million mark. I like that you can double up on the subsets now, BonesI had that from the very start, not sure why Bones II waited so long for it.

I wouldn't consider it to be crawling along - rather a descent clip...it is just the stretch goals are fairly high due to the front end loading. In the past few days it has made more than most Kick Starters make in there whole campaign. Really, the first 24 hours was about $1 million and change - since then they have raised over half a million dollars.

Also, with Bones I, they didn't introduce the duplicates till around this time in it as well.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min/posts/285669

Actually sooner in terms of total days - but still about half way through the campaign. It works to help get a push of pledges in the middle of the campaign when the stretch goals start to get pretty far apart.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
I don't recall if it was a post on the Reaper boards, the KS comments or in conversation - but the lead times on the shipments are greatly padded this time around. They believe they should be able to have things shipped much faster than the Waves would indicate - but in order to prevent possible hang ups along the way, they have gone ahead and added in a few extra months beyond what they are expecting it will take.

Awesome, even better.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

I think the wave shipping is a good, realistic idea for on-time fulfillment, but it does deter later pledges...

Or it encourages them to get inline earlier rather than risk being in Wave 20 and waiting till after ReaperCon sometime in 2015.

We seemed destined to disagree! But no, I don't think having your $1 "foot in the door" pledge be Wave 7 currently necessarily encourages folks to jump in line... rather, it might make them decide to wait till retail anyway.

As I said, if they'd let people know that you could add on individual parts of the set from day 1 (and the prices)... I would've been sorely tempted to pledge then. As it is, they put out that information late and thus I'd be in Wave 7 if I pledged... I really can't see how that could be viewed as "encouragement" to pledge!

 Sean_OBrien wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:
Yeah, this thing has just been crawling along, I've had zero interest in anything at all since we hit the $1million mark. I like that you can double up on the subsets now, BonesI had that from the very start, not sure why Bones II waited so long for it.

I wouldn't consider it to be crawling along - rather a descent clip...it is just the stretch goals are fairly high due to the front end loading. In the past few days it has made more than most Kick Starters make in there whole campaign. Really, the first 24 hours was about $1 million and change - since then they have raised over half a million dollars.

Also, with Bones I, they didn't introduce the duplicates till around this time in it as well.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min/posts/285669

Actually sooner in terms of total days - but still about half way through the campaign. It works to help get a push of pledges in the middle of the campaign when the stretch goals start to get pretty far apart.

I'm very aware that Bones II is bringing in a LOT of money per day (much more money than most kickstarters even finish with), but when the stretch goals are this high and alternating between 3 types (core set, addon and expansion set) well, it's been over a week since I saw anything to get excited about. I don't find the the latest reveal to be much better than the 5 pathfinder baddies, so it'll be probably another 500k before there's a chance that the core set will get something I personally find interesting.

They aren't bad figures at all, they're just kind of niche. Would much rather have seen the sea creatures as a paid addon and some generic monsters and NPCs added to the core, or maybe the sea creatures as addon and the Lords of Darkness or the Oh Rats! in the core set.