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2015/08/26 15:18:38
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
As far as shipping goes, they can announce what ever dates that they want. The only way I'll believe its been shipped is when it shows up at my door.
As per wave 2.... I highly doubt we'll see this year. I'm thinking more along the lines of second quarter. Again, I'll believe it when it hits my door step, and not a foot sooner.
How does that go, fool me once, shame on you, fool me for two years.... yeah, something like that.
2015/08/26 20:47:06
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
krazynadechukr wrote: Man, I must have lucked out with this whole thing. I placed an order on August 4th & got it August 7th. It came from Poland & I am in the USA (CA).
Ordered a second one on August 10th (5am my time) & that got here August 12th!
That's because you're ordering direct via their website, which apparently they are sending out immediately.
Those of us in the US who ordered KS copies have to wait for Ninja Division to ship them, and apparently they are waiting until all backer copies are with them and ready to ship before sending any out.
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2015/08/26 21:26:45
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
krazynadechukr wrote: Man, I must have lucked out with this whole thing. I placed an order on August 4th & got it August 7th. It came from Poland & I am in the USA (CA).
Ordered a second one on August 10th (5am my time) & that got here August 12th!
Thanks for buying two. Sooner Prodos has cash the sooner they can afford to spare copies to send to backers. Worst thing that can happen is that Prodos have no cash and backers are left with no games. (I contimplated buying a box cheap at retail but couldn't bring myself to fling any more money at AVP. My original pledge was uneasily high and I have doubts that the AVP licence will stick around long.)
On the flip side, just had tracking info for Marrow's Journey:Wrath of Demons and CMON's Rum and Bones. So it appears both will beat Prodos' "soon". I may ask to pick up a box at Prodos' stand at the local con next month.(Provided it hasn't arrived by mid September). I've met the guys on the stand before and know better than to talk about the screw ups.
2015/08/27 22:56:56
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
Alex C wrote: Yep, they seem to be doing a lot of work with KoW and MAS reports they have more product for Wolsung that just came in.
Hopefully this is generating enough funds for them to continue AvP fulfillment. ND should be shipping to us backers in the US soon, right?
And hopefully Fox approves Wave 2 soon, would be nice to have this wrapped up by the end of the year.
I would be happy just to get my wave 1 at this point
Me too! I think it's due imminently (for me, anyway). Prodos had shipped the last US copies to Ninja Division a week or so ago and ND said they'd start shipping when they had all copies in hand.
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2015/08/28 04:03:47
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
Joyboozer wrote: What was the estimated shipping date for international again?
I believe it was the first of soon.... Seriously though, they've announced so many different dates and failed them all so far, I wouldn't worry too much about what they say at this point. Proof is in the pudding so they say. When they show up at my house, I'll believe them about shipping.
2015/08/28 17:59:09
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
This is Rumor Control and these are the Facts for Friday August 28, 2015
Shipping has been slow. Painfully slow. We get that this is the bane of many of you and that it is hard to understand, believe or trust why this is the case. We are trying to be as open as possible. Sometimes things are just out of our control; 2 prime examples are that the Spanish manufacture of the AvP bases went on holiday for an entire month – with no rhyme nor reason or even consideration that we might try to contact them. We did have a backup plan, the supplier from the UK who supplied our bases for Warzone Resurrection. Great! However, they sent the wrong bases, which have had to be replaced. This is incredibly frustrating, but simply the way things are. Our original manufacturer is back on track and bases have been purchased for Wave 2 and the remaining boxes. They'll be coming in soon.
We have been very focused on getting AvP done and shipped, meanwhile, we have neglected Warzone Resurrection for almost 3 months. We just cannot afford to focus on shipping the KS alone, backers are getting their games, it is just at a slow a steady pace. Please remember we are a business with many other responsibilities that must be met as well. This is to ensure that you all get your games and we continue to operate in the future, allowing us to release all of the awesome things you guys would love to see for AvP, Warzone and everything in between.
The Spanish and German translated copies of the board game will be out in September, we are having an issue getting the option to switch languages types in the pledge manager. We hope to have pledge manager news next week. Of course, we will try to update you guys as soon as we can.
So the burning question everyone asks is where we are at with Backer Fulfillment; out of 2850 total backers we have shipped 1450 board game boxes out; this includes the 600 sent to the US for North American fulfillment. As for the UK backers we have 350 of them left to ship.
We received 400 more game boxes from the assembling company today, they will start shipping on Monday. The next batch of 400 is due at the end of next week if our suppliers can get us the components we need to package them. We are pretty certain this will be the case and we'll do our best to keep you up to date regarding this.
The majority of Wave 2 Add-ons have been approved. We have assigned some staff to start going through the Add-ons checking them for quality and packaging them. Starting next week Add-ons will start shipping with game boxes. There are some items which have not been approved as yet, but we are going to make these a Wave 3 shipment. We think it’s the best way to move this product forwards for you guys and for our business.
Here is the list of models in Wave 2: Alien Queen, Facehuggers, Alien Warriors, Alien Royal Guard, Predalien, Alien Crusher, Power Loader, Colonial Marines Sergeant, Weyland-Yutani Commandos, Sentry Guns, Female Predator, Linn Kurosawa (AvP Arcade), Dutch Schaefer (AvP Arcade), Predator Hellhound, Predator Berserker.
A very loose timetable that we are shooting for with future fulfilments - we are shipping with the intention that everyone has their board game box by mid-October and further intention that everyone has all of Wave 2 shipments sent to backers by mid- November.
In the very near future we will be adding a Blog feature to Prodosgames.com to use for updates, share information and to show previews of things to come. We do read all of our customer feedback.. positive and negative..You have told us that our communication has not been acceptable to all of you guys and we are going to make steps to rectify this, and we would like to thank you for your continued patience.
Many thanks,
Prodos Games LTD
There's also a link to a video which I haven't watched:
So only 350 uk backers left to ship ? Im guessing along with the 50 people who picked their games up from salute that the grand total of uk backers was 400 ? .
They've shipped 1450 copies of the game out ? 600 to the us leaves 850 and that 850 must include the ones sent to retailers .
Im gona be 80 by the time this is done
2015/08/28 18:41:49
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
Ok, so of the 2850 backers they have shipped 1450 boxes? I'm pretty sure a fair amount of us got more than one box each? Or, do they mean they have shipped out 1450 pledges? Oh, and wave 3, oh yeah, can't wait for that! No seriously, I can't wait, ship my damn stuff already!
2015/08/28 18:42:20
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
Prodos: If you're reading this-Do what Mantic does and get every fething body you can get your hands on from Prodos and get them packing!!
They've got all that bloody stock just sat there. Ridiculous.
Or just throw up the white knight flare and summon the superfans for free labor on weekends like Palladium does. They get paid in autographs and pizza!
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2015/08/28 18:51:54
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
CURNOW wrote: So only 350 uk backers left to ship ? Im guessing along with the 50 people who picked their games up from salute that the grand total of uk backers was 400 ? .
They've shipped 1450 copies of the game out ? 600 to the us leaves 850 and that 850 must include the ones sent to retailers .
Im gona be 80 by the time this is done
Per the update on July 10th there are 700 UK backers and 300 had shipped at that stage so they managed 50 in one and a half months (or was the information in one of their messages inaccurate remember a lot were delayed by the Calais situation (even though the shipments are sent by air from Germany) are Prodos even checking what they said in previous messages.
Spoiler:
Prodos Games Ltd says:
Hello, here is your AvP:THB update for Friday July 10, 2015
We are looking to increase the number of packages shipping a week, by using a UK based business partner (to be announced) to ship the UK packages, out of the 700 UK backers 300 have already been shipped, once our partner is in place things will speed up, know that we are working on this. Once this partner is in place the Polish facility will be able to focus on other the European and Asian (including Australia) backers. We have already shipped some European backers and the first Australian backers this week.
US backers will have an option to pick-up their AvP board games at Gencon, to be able to pick up your copy at Gencon you must email sales@prodos.co.uk the email must contain your first name, surname and order number, then at pick up you must present an ID with your name on it. All other individual USA and Canadian orders will begin shipping from our US partner (to be announced) following Gencon. All US and Canadian backers will be shipped to backers by September.
September is the reconfigured Retail launch for the USA and Canada. No more boxes will be shipped to US shops before then.
Wave 2 approvals are still pending, but should be sorted out soon.
As always we appreciate your patience and understanding.
Cheers,
Prodos Games LTD
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2015/08/28 19:06:14
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
1. We were told the KS Exclusive version could not be KS Exclusive because they needed to order in a quantity that gave a decent price (5K copies if I recall correctly.) But it seems they are ordering small batches of components and assembling sets as the components arrive.
2. Bases. Seriously? They are ordering bases in small lots instead of for the whole shebang? And they didn't have orders with Need By dates put in?
3. As mentioned, no real way to know if their totals are accurate or if they include what went to retailers (and are being sold and shipped ASAP via their own fething web store).
4. Allowing backers to switch to a different language at this stage is going to not work. Folks who already got theirs but want a different language are hosed. Folks now waiting hopefully for them to unfuck the pledge manager may still have their English copies sent while they wait. Prodos fething with the pledge manager yet again instills fear of 'Hey, you didn;t close your pledge manager we opened for you and didn't tell you about, so we couldn't ship your game. So Solly!'
A lot of this reeks of a company with severe cash flow issues. The inability to even order the bases is not a good sign.
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2015/08/28 19:40:51
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
Yeah, like switching languages now would be suitable. Hey, Prodos, you should've checked what you can offer shortly after campaign and add it in the PM to choose. Or, like GZ, you come from france? You get the french version. Germany? German.
Now to the update ... Say, aren't facts that turn out false in the end rumours as well? Ah, no, they're lies ... sorry, my bad. English not mother in cheek tongue of mine is. Sorry for that terrible sentence.
A whole company, going on holidays for a month? Yeah, right. And please remember Prodos, we are people that gave you our money roughly one and a half years ago. So plase bare with us, that we are pissed with you and don't care for your excuses anymore.
A third wave? FRAKK, and I thiought that particular line was sort of just sitting there. Now it looks like, wave three was planned over a month ago. Now people, please don't be mad because they haven't peeped about it before, but we all know, Prodos going honest all of a sudden would only result in our heads exploding. We should be thankful for their consideration.
Mid-October and mid-November ... see what he did there? No year mentioned. Smart move.
No, you will not improve on your communication. So, what do I see happening? At least three more times for the PM to be opened and us having to close it again. But just a second ... counting through: Not approved and therefore beig on Wave 3, 4 or whichever: Those other Marines All of the tokens - Eggs, Spears, Android Youngbloods Pred-Ship-Tiles Wargame rules And the 3D scenery
Yaih, Prodos! Mid-November, yeah, right, 2020 at best ...
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2015/08/28 19:42:25
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
Prodos: If you're reading this-Do what Mantic does and get every fething body you can get your hands on from Prodos and get them packing!!
They've got all that bloody stock just sat there. Ridiculous.
Or just throw up the white knight flare and summon the superfans for free labor on weekends like Palladium does. They get paid in autographs and pizza!
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Seriously? Even for Palladium that almost sounds as if you can't possibly be serious... They actually did that? Wow. Gobsmacked here
2015/08/28 20:11:40
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
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Seriously? Even for Palladium that almost sounds as if you can't possibly be serious... They actually did that? Wow. Gobsmacked here
Did a quick search to find one of the dozen or more calls for volunteers they put out and found this one. It does mention "trade" in product as well as defacto payment to their credit. I'm not sure if that was in the earlier announcements.
HELP Wanted: Still have a need for volunteers
We are looking for volunteers to help prep, package and ship Robotech® RPG Tactics™ every day and weekend over the next few weeks until they are all out of the warehouse. If you live in the area and are willing and able to help, please contact us at the Palladium office (734-721-2903 tel.). Please do so even if you’ve already let us know you are willing to help. Happy to trade some Palladium product for your help. Thank you.
I mean, seriously. If you want to be optimistic, go for it, no harm done. Me, I'm rather the calculating type. They wanted to be done shipping base game end of Juli. Now it's mid-October. This taken as a baseline results in end of December. Wave 2 could take another six months - because ... maybe I'm nitpicking, but there was no mention the package has been approved as well. And then there's wave 3 ...
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2015/08/28 20:52:51
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games 21/08/15 FB Update pg 187
As pointed out earlier they (unless there is a language issue) seem to be trying to be clever by saying how many boxes have been shipped to backers not how many backers have been fulfilled.
Interestingly the KS funded with 2093 backers so 757 backers came on after the campaign?
Also how is delivering this update to a closed Facebook page trying to improve communication. Edit I take this bit back I've just had the email through
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Seriously? Even for Palladium that almost sounds as if you can't possibly be serious... They actually did that? Wow. Gobsmacked here
Did a quick search to find one of the dozen or more calls for volunteers they put out and found this one. It does mention "trade" in product as well as defacto payment to their credit. I'm not sure if that was in the earlier announcements.
HELP Wanted: Still have a need for volunteers
We are looking for volunteers to help prep, package and ship Robotech® RPG Tactics™ every day and weekend over the next few weeks until they are all out of the warehouse. If you live in the area and are willing and able to help, please contact us at the Palladium office (734-721-2903 tel.). Please do so even if you’ve already let us know you are willing to help. Happy to trade some Palladium product for your help. Thank you.
wow.
Though as you said that specific help wanted notice does sound rather less crusty than it initially seemed. Downright charming as far as PB's record goes, in fact
Legion: Dark Angels 
remember a lot were delayed by the Calais situation (even though the shipments are sent by air from Germany) are Prodos even checking what they said in previous messages.
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