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 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
Well guys the romuland scout Vo has been leeked on BGG early. It is bad, really bad. Probably the first ship that is truly not worth buying. I will put it this way the praetus is better in terns of captain, stats, and extra cards. Enough said I think. Check it out on BGG. But all of the disappointment is not worth typing this late.

Damn, I guess they're gonna save the best for last, USS Excelsior!!!

The vo is a shame, but the bird of prey that's coming sounds very sweet.

Fingers crossed for the klingon then

The Vo is pretty terrible. The ship itself could find it's uses. With the right upgrades, you could bring it to 11 defense dice. There are potential scenarios where you need to keep a ship alive until the end, or if you need to transport something to a planet etc.,- this ship will be your go to runner. I won't buy it until:

A) those scenarios start popping up

or

B) there's an indication from Wizkids that ships will start being discontinued at some point. It's going to take a lot of shelf space to stock all the ships by the end of next year.

The upgrades are defensively based, so they aren't particularly impressive, and cost WAY too much to be used in a regular match. They could find their way onto Engage Builds as insurance, but there are currently cheaper, better, insurance policies.


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Would it be possible for someone to put up that picture on this thread? I expect that the Vo will get reviewed today on the wizkids website as well.

Not sure if this is the right thread or not but how are you guys transporting your ST:AW stuff?

Also, is there a thread showing any repainting on the ships? I am looking to repaint mine and wanted some inspiration.

You can find some repaint posts in the X-wing thread- show your fleets. Otherwise, I think there was a recent post up about attack wing repaints.

And I have been transporting the Attack Wing stuff in dollar store segment containers- go to the area where they have the tackleboxes and tool containers. They should have containers with compartments. I bought one for $4, and intend to buy another one to house my ships.

It really is a pity that WK decided to release the Vo instead of the Warbird variant. I think the Vo would have been a much better prize given its terribleness. As it stands, I'm really gunning for Romulan Pilot- I'd really like to get my hands on it to toss into my Engage Build.

There is a review of all of wave 2 on YouTube by tom vasel, excelsior included.

Excelsior
3 attacks
1 evade
5 hull
4 shields

Ability after you move if no enemies are within range 1 get scan as a free action.

Sulu is captain skill 6, yet another federation 6, with elite slot, and ability disable a crew to remove an enemy target lock from your ship. Really useful I just wish the designers would make more variety in the captain skill numbers, this makes four 6s for the federation.

Captain styles, skill 3, ability add another tech slot to your ship.

valtane, crew, if you scan reroll 2 attack dice, nice mini target lock, especially if the ship is getting a free scan.

Lojur, crew, disable him to prevent a weapon from being disabled, again nice a I believe we will be seeing more torpedoes being used in the next few months.

Positron beam, tech, discard to put an auxiliary power token on an enemy at range 1

transwarp drive, tech, if your ship reveals a 4 or 5 forward, , it may move 6 forward instead. Very useful I think. I think it was 3 points but it is tough to tell from the video.

The talent is not revealed so we will have to wait on that, but a nice addition for the federation.

I like Valtane. That's worth the price of admission. Did they review the movement dial?


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Transwarp could be VERY useful- especially since it allows you to change your movement- anything that gives you more control over the movement phase is fantastic. I'll be purchasing.

The dial is standard green 1,2 straight, soft 1 turn. White 4, soft 2, 3 turn. Red 2 back, hard 2, 3 turn. IIRC is is similar to the galor minus the 5 straight.


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Also transwarp is NOT unique so expect to see it on multiple ships.

That's too bad. I would have preferred a few more green maneuvers, but you can't win them all! It's a good ship that I'll be picking up. I'll also be picking up the Keldon and the Bird of Prey. Gonna pass on the Romulan ship.

So I just rewatched the video. Yup transwarp drive 3 pts, positron beam 2 pts, neither is unique. Also crewman Lojur is only 2 pts. So some nice cheap upgrades there.

personally I believe that torpedoes are going to become a bigger part of the game. Federation and romulan fleets are going to need the extra attacks against the larger klingon ships and with two new bad boys coming down the block for the dominion the need only increases. I am already starting to see it in my local meta. First month nobody had them, 2nd month a few, most non klingon fleets have at least one ship packing them.

Also torpedoes are now more of an option for the klingons with the kavort and b'rel having rear arcs. Now they can shoot you for 2 turns before coming about.

My issue with the Torps is that they need target locks, and so you have to wait for your first pass against cloaked ships- and not die.


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But the Excelsior has a Miranda like arc correct? I'd pay for torps on that thing.

Gordash wrote:
My issue with the Torps is that they need target locks, and so you have to wait for your first pass against cloaked ships- and not die.


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But the Excelsior has a Miranda like arc correct? I'd pay for torps on that thing.

tougher ships coming out with better arcs will increase the use. Also if federation and romulan bulds want any chance of taking out the 4th division ships torpedoes are the only chance. Plus people are going to want tne chance to one shot a keldon before ot opems up with 5 attacksand battle stations.

Which could also see the use of other stuff like Attack Pattern Omega.

I could see more use for it in the distant future. As it is right now I only see the federation and toreth getting much out of it. Otherwise its not really worth the faction cost.

With December's release and even more in February I could see more of a move towards pure faction builds. I am not totally sold on pure faction, but Lets face it by February there is really no excuse for it everyone has what they need. Plus the admirals orders are a silent nudge in that direction. Once you have pure faction bulds it will be tougher for picard and martok clones to shoot first all of the time. Without everyone having 9,8,6 (donatra) captains then torpedoes become more necessary.

So, I heard somewhere the Intrepid had been spoiled along with the 4th Division Battleship???

Can we get their stats, etc.? pics if possible?

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
So, I heard somewhere the Intrepid had been spoiled along with the 4th Division Battleship???

Can we get their stats, etc.? pics if possible?

To my knowledge the intrepid/voyager has not been spoiled yet that is to come out in april. What we do know it the 4th division battle ship, romulan BoP from the original series, klingon somraw from enterprise series, and the nova class/uss equinox from a voyager episode.

the equinox has similar stats to the reliant with ability to regenerate shields. All 4 were shown on the inside cover of game trade magazine.

I like the Excelsior as a torpedo boat. I think the transwarp with Quantums could be a great combo. I dont think Engage will be particularly good with the ship, but I'm thinking something like...

Excelsior 26
Kirk 12
Attack Patter Omega
OTHER PILOT SKILL
Quantum Torpedoes 6
Transwarp 3

and an Engage Enterprise

could be pretty good... of course, I'd probably rather take Gul Dulkat for the battlestations. Also, Spock's ability may be more useful on the Excelsior than on the Enterprise, and I might switch him out to use the other scan dude from the excelsior pack.

Has anyone else's flgs had to cancel or move their op 3 event? My local event has been moved two weeks to allow the op pack to arrive.

Looks like attack wing is already starting to suffer from distribution problems.

One OP3 I went to had to cancel because the distributor sent them a Lord of the Rings heroclix OP kit by mistake. The other 3 I went to had no problems. One of the TO told me it is easy for the distributors to get them mixed up if they don't read the box carefully, because wizkids buts most of thier OP kits in similar boxes. Reading is important

Yeah, I don't know what exactly happened but this is what we were told:

Please note that due to a delay in the campaign packs being distributed we have had to postpone this event till the 8/12/13. All of you that have already booked your tickets we will transfer you over to the re-scheduled date.
The unique nature of the content of the game meant that we could not run it without the campaign pack.

Sad times

That's too bad. We've been fine so far in Toronto.

So far, we've been running smoothly at my LGS, although, we just finished Month 2, and only 3 people showed up.. :/

On an off-topic note, anyone know where I can reliably watch Star Trek DS9 episodes without having to have a subscription?

EDIT: So, anyone remember my ordeal with the crooked Apnex model???

Got the replacement today, same issue, I know they have models without crooked bridges, I've seen them...

Thats going to be a fun phone call to customer services.

Good luck

So I just watched a video on YouTube about the new flagship resource. They are pretty cool. Just search YouTube soe "star trek attack wing" posted in the past today and you will see it.

There is one for each faction plus 4 different independent flagships. Any ship can use the independent flagship, but only klingons can use the klingon flagship, romulans can only use the romulan etc. They are 10pts each and you DON'T pay the faction penalty formthe independent flagship.

Each one increases 3 out of 4 of the stats (attack, evade, hull, shields). Each one also has an ability that effects friendly ships around it. A big bonus is each flagship has an action listed on it. If your ship does not have the action on its bar it does now. However if the ship already has the action it may perform that action as a free action once per round

From memory I think the romulams had sensor echo, klingons had cloak, feds battle stations, and dominion scan. Most ships for these factions already have these. Imagine a flagship with Picard or Dukot is going to get 3 actions a turn. Talk about a game changer. Now all we have to do is find a way to cram this into our lists.

From reading the Excelsior Spoiler, it looks like the new ships drop next week... with my OP4 on December 9th, it looks like I'll have to work these new ships into my existing lists!

U.S.S Excelsior

http://wizkidsgames.com/blog/2013/11/27/star-trek-attack-wing-wave-2-preview-the-u-s-s-excelsior/

That ship is a must buy for any federation fleets.

Yeah Excelsior is a good looking ship, either that or the D with the flagship upgrade will be beastly.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
So far, we've been running smoothly at my LGS, although, we just finished Month 2, and only 3 people showed up.. :/

On an off-topic note, anyone know where I can reliably watch Star Trek DS9 episodes without having to have a subscription?

EDIT: So, anyone remember my ordeal with the crooked Apnex model???

Got the replacement today, same issue, I know they have models without crooked bridges, I've seen them...

There are a lot of Star Trek Tactics minis that are just borked. Besides the Apnex, the Enterprise-A is almost always screwed up. I have 4 or 5 of them, and not one that doesn't make me wince. I'm going to try hot water on them, because cutting and re-gluing didn't really work. The Nebula class always has problems, too. I think some of the minis are just too complicated to expect decent results from poorly-paid laborers who don't give a crap.

Let me know how your issue goes. I had to go through quite a bit of email and riposte with the customer service department before my minis were replaced, and most of the replacements had the same (or worse!) issues. They told me (I'm paraphrasing here) they more or less thought of the minis as game pieces only and were surprised that anyone gave a damn if the minis looked like chewed bubble gum. They seem to have only had experience with boardgamers, but for $15 per miniature I bet they'll start to get a lot more flack for their attitude towards wargamers.