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emperorpenguin wrote:
http://www.universaldist.com/images/document/STAW%20Wave%209%20Quick%20Solicit.pdf

Pics of the October releases for this year - another Defiant but two new sculpts 'wings-up' Bird of Prey and the Scimitar

Oh man, I am really going to have to get into this game big time. And all my friends. Are there any youtube videos that demonstrate the game and teach noobs the basics of how to play?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Oh man, I am really going to have to get into this game big time. And all my friends. Are there any youtube videos that demonstrate the game and teach noobs the basics of how to play?

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/139771/star-trek-attack-wing

Plenty of videos, reviews and tactical advice here

I really like the Equinox, even if the captains are a little more than useless, lol.

Nice fleet Mr. S Baldrick.
I love seeing other people's fleets. Not sure that counts as a patrol any more, though?

Surprised that you only have one Valdore. The Romulan meta in my area is 2 in a fleet minimum, while 3 isn't unusual.
Its interesting to see someone who is obviously playing completely differently to what I am used to.

I wonder if the Scimitar will have the Thaleron Radiation weapon.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:


Oh man, I am really going to have to get into this game big time. And all my friends. Are there any youtube videos that demonstrate the game and teach noobs the basics of how to play?

Go to youtube and type in "Star Trek Attack Wing batrep" and plenty will come up.

 whitehorn wrote:
Nice fleet Mr. S Baldrick.
I love seeing other people's fleets. Not sure that counts as a patrol any more, though?

Surprised that you only have one Valdore. The Romulan meta in my area is 2 in a fleet minimum, while 3 isn't unusual.
Its interesting to see someone who is obviously playing completely differently to what I am used to.

Shhhhhhhhh.... we only tell those Star Fleet guys its a patrol

My Romulans have been known to fly around on stolen vorchas, k'tinga,, and the occasional defiant, but you are right another valdor is needed. Not to mention a scimitar.

Though the Warbird will always be my favorite and success or failure it is my goto romulan ship.

I wonder when we'll get a CS8 or 9 Romulan captain, probably not until October when Shinzon comes out, but really, he's not "really" a romulan...

So, regarding Repaints, I used a couple metallic paints for my B'rel class, would you ever consider doing such a thing?

I only used metallic for the guns and the top of the hull (the grills)

So any of you guys using the admirals orders? If so how have you done?

Myself I haven't had a chance to use them yet, but I am not sure I like the idea. My one hangout did OP4 in December, and the other is not having it until the end of January.

Promoting 2 ship builds sounds good, however there are so many things for extra actions (picard, dukat, martok, command tokens) the strike force seems a little too much. Also the united force order oly promotes pure ships not fleets so it seems that throwing 10 extra points at them seems like a huge advantage.

This is just how it looks to me on paper. But how does it play? Any thoughts?

So, I guess since we know the releases up until October this year, is there much to talk about besides the cards that come with the ships? lol...

Thanks for the links, guys! Now, if only I can convince my wife...


@PlagueLord,

We can always discuss the quality of the models and paint jobs..?

We have loads to discuss as new cards are revealed.

Now that we have had a look at the equinox I think captain ransom has possibilities. Put him on the defiant, or even a genaric defiant class and that could be 4 dice plus an evade token a turn. For a little more beef consider:
USS Defiant
Ransom
cloak
EMH

Go a little further and:
USS Defiant
Ransom
Cloak
EMH
Ind. Flagship (free evade)

...and you have a little monster of a ship that can cloak 2 turns in a row with 4 attacks, 4 hull, amd 5 shields and 8 evade dice. Not a bad place to start for those who like 2 ship builds.

I would expect to see Ransom and the EMH popping up in lots of fleets. They are cheep and great defensive boosts. After February if you are even thinking of taking a cloaking device or advanced weapons system you should set aside a few points for the EMH.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
So, I guess since we know the releases up until October this year, is there much to talk about besides the cards that come with the ships? lol...

As long as they keep doing op events, in one form or another, I think we will keep talking about the game.
I really doubt I would have got into the game in such a big way without them.

Op events is where they can do some really odd ball releases - ferengi maurader is the best example, although for sheer coolness I'm excited about the two attack squadrons, months 5 and 6.

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
So any of you guys using the admirals orders? If so how have you done?

Myself I haven't had a chance to use them yet, but I am not sure I like the idea. My one hangout did OP4 in December, and the other is not having it until the end of January.

Promoting 2 ship builds sounds good, however there are so many things for extra actions (picard, dukat, martok, command tokens) the strike force seems a little too much. Also the united force order oly promotes pure ships not fleets so it seems that throwing 10 extra points at them seems like a huge advantage.

This is just how it looks to me on paper. But how does it play? Any thoughts?

Our OP4 event the top three players were a United Force List, and two United Strike Force lists (Fed, Klingon, and Romulan respectively) They play well and give people more options to consider.

After playing and watching some games where Admirals Orders were used I am not liking them. Facing opponents that have ships getting 3-4 actions a turn is a bit much in my opinion.

My store has not been allowing them. I think it's a good decision. There's enough going on with the Resources and the rest of the cards that we don't need heavy handed list manipulation from Wizkids. The Orders are a bit overpowered for what they do. I'd rather they be severely toned down.

Well, I like them, and remember, these won't be the only Admiral's Orders to come out, more are on the way.

Gordash wrote:
My store has not been allowing them. I think it's a good decision. There's enough going on with the Resources and the rest of the cards that we don't need heavy handed list manipulation from Wizkids. The Orders are a bit overpowered for what they do. I'd rather they be severely toned down.

I agree, they are a pit much in my opinion. This past weekend I saw a ship getting 4 actions a turn, (Ship+picard+flagship+admirals orders). Part of the challenge of the game is deciding what action to take and when. If you can do every action every turn it does dilute the skill level a bit.


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 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
Well, I like them, and remember, these won't be the only Admiral's Orders to come out, more are on the way.

Maybe or maybe not. Wizkids is collecting feedback from January amd February before they make any decisions on more orders.

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:

Gordash wrote:
My store has not been allowing them. I think it's a good decision. There's enough going on with the Resources and the rest of the cards that we don't need heavy handed list manipulation from Wizkids. The Orders are a bit overpowered for what they do. I'd rather they be severely toned down.

I agree, they are a pit much in my opinion. This past weekend I saw a ship getting 4 actions a turn, (Ship+picard+flagship+admirals orders). Part of the challenge of the game is deciding what action to take and when. If you can do every action every turn it does dilute the skill level a bit.


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 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
Well, I like them, and remember, these won't be the only Admiral's Orders to come out, more are on the way.

Maybe or maybe not. Wizkids is collecting feedback from January amd February before they make any decisions on more orders.

Well, Admiral Orders like the united fleet order are good, more points on upgrades is something 3 ship builds desperately need. (Always have one ship that's just naked)

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:

Well, Admiral Orders like the united fleet order are good, more points on upgrades is something 3 ship builds desperately need. (Always have one ship that's just naked)

Not at all, I won and seen plenty of people win with 3 ship builds before the admirals orders came out. All the united force does is reward people for not making the tough decisions. If you want to fit in that crew card maybe cut some points on captains or take a lower point ship. Part of the game is making your build and usimg it tomits advantages in the game. Admirals orders water that down because people can take all the best ships with the best captains with all the upgrades they want without sacrificing anything.

It is a bit silly, there is already a built in benifit to playing faction pure. You don't pay the faction penalty. Giving players 10 extra points on top of that and a reroll is too much.

The only players the pure fleet really effects negatively are those who include one, maybe two, out of faction upgrades.

Those pure player now don't have to make the hard decisions, the player who maxes out the ideal fleet out of what ever works best already has a fleet he is happy with. Its the poor sod with that out of faction captain to do a specific job, or an upgrade to help his fleet that now has hard choices to make. Drop them and gain the points or suffer un-duely.

Be interesting to see how it changes things.

The Somraw was leaked. My initial thoughts are meh on this one.

I've read now that starting in June they may be moving to waves of 3 ships per month. I think that's a crazy move. Are the sales numbers that good?

They definitely are moving to every month, the release schedules have been seen on the webz

I can well believe it's selling that well.

That might be a bit too quick for me... although I bet there'll be only one ship per release that is really worth getting. So far, it looks like I'll be getting the Dominion battleship from the next wave and maybe the Romulan ship.

I guess The fan-base is overjoyed that Wiz Kids is whole-heartedly supporting the Prime Universe instead of the failbrams-verse...lol

It looks like those future waves are going to be chock full of goodness as well. The release schedule is definitely better than X-wing- although I'd imagine that X-wing requires a bit more balancing than Attack Wing (faction mixing makes up for most potential balance issues).

Gordash wrote:
It looks like those future waves are going to be chock full of goodness as well. The release schedule is definitely better than X-wing- although I'd imagine that X-wing requires a bit more balancing than Attack Wing (faction mixing makes up for most potential balance issues).

Also as they included more factions in attack wing they need to release more to keep every player happy. If they released a couple of ships every quarter or something like x-wing I think the player base for this game would just die, certain races would be left in the cold for months.
Plus it probably helps that wiz-kids have a lot of these models sculpted already.

Keep'em coming.

Anyone got an email address for Wizkids Customer Support. I have a wonky headed RIS Apnex and want to make some enquiries about directly purchasing more pegs for the flying bases.

jase69 wrote:
Anyone got an email address for Wizkids Customer Support. I have a wonky headed RIS Apnex and want to make some enquiries about directly purchasing more pegs for the flying bases.

I have had good luck in replacing funky HeroClix and mis-carded figures from WizKids but haven't needed replacement for Attack Wing yet. Here's a link to their support; you may also have to register too. http://wizkidsgames.com/support/