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Yea this is a standard product list sent out to businesses. Nids were always a January release.

 juraigamer wrote:
Yea this is a standard product list sent out to businesses. Nids were always a January release.

You say it so matter of factly.

What I loved was the 5 straight days of:

"Tyranids confirmed for December."

"Tyranids confirmed for January."

"Tyranids confirmed for December, but may be two months."

"Some Tyranids coming in December, but codex not until January."

"Tyranids were always January."

"A reputable source confirmed they are getting Tyranids shipments for December."

It was fun...

Yeah, Natfka is a hoot.

 Kirasu wrote:
Or finecast is still a lower cost alternative (for them not us, of course) for models that won't sell a lot.

Also keep in mind that this might be the first time, we see plastic blisters and boxes as a splash release, "while supply lasts" and strictly allocated by the GW sales rep. Seems they lost any hope to get investment back for these moulds and try to get though this quickly.

This might have been mentioned, but has the latest issue of WD come out yet? I don't follow the mag, but I know that's pretty much the only guaranteed way of knowing what's coming out the next month....

WD is released end of the week, so expect WD pics soon.

 Kroothawk wrote:
WD is released end of the week, so expect WD pics soon.

Cool, thanks.

When are we likely to get details like this for January? Do GW usually send out details to retailers a little earlier, or a little later when holidays are involved?

I'm wondering if we might see leaks for the Jan schedule W/C 16th so retailers have time to sort it before the Xmas week.

 xttz wrote:
When are we likely to get details like this for January? Do GW usually send out details to retailers a little earlier, or a little later when holidays are involved?

I'm wondering if we might see leaks for the Jan schedule W/C 16th so retailers have time to sort it before the Xmas week.

White Dwarf is normally released early in December. It's due on the 28th but would expect to see it on the 21st.


I for one am looking forward to the Hobbit releases; I have 7 LotR/Hobbit armies already and intend to add a new Legolas and hopefully an army of Beornings to my collection! The line so far has been pretty sweet (IMO)- plastic boxes have been awesome as have been about half of the FC clampacks (the ones that weren't too spindly...).

Is it just me, or does the time seem to be inching by before we get solid Tyranids info?

 mikhaila wrote:

Shingen wrote:
That list looks about as credible as Boris Johnson in a suit.

Considering it's the one GW sent out to retailers, I'd say it's credible.

As far as I know GW dont send them out until a short time before they are released and as such most of that stuff wouldnt be on there.

As I said, its a crock.

Shingen wrote:

 mikhaila wrote:

Shingen wrote:
That list looks about as credible as Boris Johnson in a suit.

Considering it's the one GW sent out to retailers, I'd say it's credible.

As far as I know GW dont send them out until a short time before they are released and as such most of that stuff wouldnt be on there.

As I said, its a crock.

Mikhaila owns one of the better game shops in Pennsylvania.

If he says that's the list, that is the list.

Will they sell enough Legolas to justify a plastic kit?

 MaCa wrote:
Imperator-class Titans in plastic

Imperators have always been plastic.

Now if you mean 40K scale Imperators...

Shingen wrote:

 mikhaila wrote:

Shingen wrote:
That list looks about as credible as Boris Johnson in a suit.

Considering it's the one GW sent out to retailers, I'd say it's credible.

As far as I know GW dont send them out until a short time before they are released and as such most of that stuff wouldnt be on there.

As I said, its a crock.

GW sends lists like this to retailers just a bit ahead of WD. We update our POS systems, and try to brief staff and start taking pre-orders as soon as WD hits. If you consider that the week ends tomorrow for GW US, this is pretty much exactly the same time we always get it. I don't release that info, but in a case where it's already up on the internet, it's sort of a moot point about whether I'm 'revealing' anything here. Plus I expect WD pictures in about 37 seconds.

I'll be placing orders for these models on monday, and recieving them the end of next week. Seems like this is "a short time before they are released".

I love my nids, but if they don't release it until january i'll be happy. For whatever reason december is always where the biggest bills of the year line up for me. From school to wife and xmas. I guess my nids will just need to be patient.

Shingen wrote:
As far as I know GW dont send them out until a short time before they are released and as such most of that stuff wouldnt be on there.

It's the 27th today. I'd call that "a short time before" the December releases.

I have my December 2013 WD in my hands - well, on the arm of my comfy chair, but close nuff - but I'm unsure of the etiquette or rules (or even laws) involved in taking photos of the stuff. What's allowed? What's needed? What's not allowed?

Edit: Seriously. I've never posted anything that could be considered advance information before. I don't want to fall afoul of anything. In the meantime, I guess I'll start taking photos.

Dr. Bizarre wrote:
Will they sell enough Legolas to justify a plastic kit?

No. I think that's probably a very good bet, that is, a bet that GW will have trouble paying off the production costs. But it may be "justifiable" in the context of GW's entire product range. If you look at sales figures of GW's best selling SKUs, its sort of surprising how little volume GW sells compared to what you might expect, and Hobbit sales seem to have been abysmal. GW might sell a couple thousand...maybe...of that product. That's my guess. I suppose that could be enough volume in the long run.

 Pouncey wrote:
I have my December 2013 WD in my hands - well, on the arm of my comfy chair, but close nuff - but I'm unsure of the etiquette or rules (or even laws) involved in taking photos of the stuff. What's allowed? What's needed? What's not allowed?

Edit: Seriously. I've never posted anything that could be considered advance information before. I don't want to fall afoul of anything. In the meantime, I guess I'll start taking photos.

You could try the less litigious route of giving us a brief overview.

 Pouncey wrote:
I have my December 2013 WD in my hands - well, on the arm of my comfy chair, but close nuff - but I'm unsure of the etiquette or rules (or even laws) involved in taking photos of the stuff. What's allowed? What's needed? What's not allowed?

Edit: Seriously. I've never posted anything that could be considered advance information before. I don't want to fall afoul of anything. In the meantime, I guess I'll start taking photos.

You might be okay with photos taken of just the advance order stuff, but articles and the like could be questionable.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
I have my December 2013 WD in my hands - well, on the arm of my comfy chair, but close nuff - but I'm unsure of the etiquette or rules (or even laws) involved in taking photos of the stuff. What's allowed? What's needed? What's not allowed?

Edit: Seriously. I've never posted anything that could be considered advance information before. I don't want to fall afoul of anything. In the meantime, I guess I'll start taking photos.

You could try the less litigious route of giving us a brief overview.

Okie dokie...

The only new models seem to be from The Hobbit. The Desolation of Smaug is the name of the expansion, and there is no Smaug model. There's a bunch of new models. The list of models near the beginning of the thread was accurate, at least in terms of new models being released (not sure about price, as I am too tired to start comparing all the prices) The Palace Guards, Legolas, Tauriel are all mentioned as being in plastic. Beorn, the Spiders, the Ranger Captains, the Palace Guard Captains, are all mentioned as being in Finecast. The Rangers, the set with the dwarves in barrels (with Bilbo on a barrel too), Thrain, Thranduil are not mentioned as being plastic or Finecast specifically, and their pictures on the Full Release Listings page don't mention the materials. The Barrel out of Bond set is Online Only.

Yes, the Ultima Edition of the Space Marine Codex IS that gosh-darned expensive, and is available by online order only. Comes with 4 hardback books in a display box, volumes are titled "Galaxis," "Illuminatus" "Adeptus Astartes" and "Codex" respectively. Each book contains different stuff, including a foldout map of the galaxy, with Space Marine-related details on it, Another is an art book. Another is a gallery book that shows off every Space Marine model in the range, all painted by Eavy Metal with multiple angles and close-ups. The fourth book is the full Space Marine Codex..

There's two new expansions for 40k.

For 40k, Escalation lets you use certain superheavies and gargantuan creatures in otherwise normal games of 40k, with every army getting at least one superheavy or gargantuan creature or similar biggun, with some getting access to more. Stronghold Assault lets you use more fortifications than normal in a normal game of 40k, and the book provides updated rules for using fortifications (possibly just for Stronghold Assault, they didn't specify).

In Fantasy, Sigmar's Blood is a narrative campaign supplement book. Contains rules, hobby stuff, historical info, scenarios, and "examples of painted Citadel figures". The point is apparently to get a few players to get together and recreate the armies and battles described in the book. Apparently there's a scenario for every major battle described in the book. A variety of heroes and villains are described, and apparently there are ongoing effects from one battle to the next, and the outcome of a battle can affect other battles to come.

They're apparently doing something in December with their Digital Products section, from December 1st up till Christmas Day, there'll be something new to download on the "Advent Calendar" whatever that is, each and every day. Apparently they're bringing back a "much-loved" (quotes are to indicate it is their words. quote marks not present in the wording in the magazine) Warhammer 40,000 character on Christmas Day. Naturally, they don't specify who. The first download is Munitorum Volume 1. Other digital releases in December are "Warhammer: The Rules" Fantasy, not 40k.

Some Licenced Games, including Only War: No Surrender, and Warhammer Diskwars,

Black Library books include: Bane of Malekith, about Tyrion and Teclis fighting Dark Elves. Sigmund's Blood (the title of a novel and a related campaign book), about Volkmar the Grim hunting down vampires. Pandorax, an IG novel about Catachans fighting Chaos. Something about an art book called The Horus Heresy: Visions of Heresy, but I'm not sure whether they're trying to get people to buy up the last collector's editions or what. An exclusive version of The Horus Heresy: Macragge's Honour with different cover art from the earlier release will be available from Black Library's website for two weeks, starting December 25th.

Forge World's releasing Imperial Armour Volume 2, Second edition, apparently all about Space Marine vehicles with new rules, new pictures, and new graphics. Basically an updated version from the sounds of it. The new rules will apparently let you customize your vehicles by designating them as veterans of a specific campaign or making them ancient artefacts of their Chapter. There's also a new Character Series model: Erebus and Kor Phaeron

That's about it for the New Releases section.

In This Month in Forge World, they show a "Legion Fire Raptor" a Space Marine Stronghold Realm of Battle board, and an XV-107 R''Varna Battlesuit

The Parting Shot at the back shows an Empire General on a huge hippogryph or gryphon or something with a cat's body, a bird's head, and wings, and has the following quote:

"Through his own scars and blood, he has proved that his courage is beyond reproach." - Warhammer: The Empire

Oh, and I'm glad to see that they finally found a different photo of Jeremy Vetock to use in his magazine blog post. His old one was... aggravating.

[Edit: Sorry for the lengthy delay, I find it hard not to go into detail and I even erased several rambling parts, plus my memory for details is never that good so there was a lot of back and forth between the keyboard and the magazine. I have my computer on a chair in the living room with my keyboard on my lap, so there's no desk to lay the magazine down on.]

What do the Mirkwood Rangers look like? They kind of intrigue me.

 Kanluwen wrote:
What do the Mirkwood Rangers look like? They kind of intrigue me.

Hmm, my photo quality is kinda crappy. I'll take a better one now, but here's the one I have (no article in the photo, if that helps).

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/andreyis/Rangers_zps3b46bee7.jpg

Some of them are female, I know that much.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/andreyis/Rangersbetter_zpsb64708c1.jpg

Better photo. : D The model in the bottom right is somewhat obscured by glare, though. White Dwarf paper is shiny and the desk lamp is bright.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I took some better photos of other models.

I'll post em all.


What's New in Forge World:


XV-107 R'Varna Battlesuit:


Realm of Battle Castellum Stronghold:


Legion Fire Raptor:



New Releases:


Erebus and Kor Phaeron:


(the cover of) Imperial Armour 2 Second Edition:


Palace Guard Captain 1:


Palace Guard Captain 2:


Ranger Captain 1:


Ranger Captain 2:


Barrels out of Bond:


Mirkwood Spiders:


Beorn:


Thrain the Broken:


Thranduil, King of Mirkwood:


Tauriel:


Legolas Greenleaf:


Palace Guards:


Mirkwood Rangers:


The images further toward the top tend to get more and more skewed because I leaned further and further back as I kept snapping pictures, changing the camera angle.

Damn, I was holding out some hope for those models.

Did everyone who knew how to pose a non marine model up and leave GW some time earlier in the year? More and more releases are coming out either static or this weird 'trying to be dynamic but going too far' with no middle ground.

 jonolikespie wrote:
Damn, I was holding out some hope for those models.

Did everyone who knew how to pose a non marine model up and leave GW some time earlier in the year? More and more releases are coming out either static or this weird 'trying to be dynamic but going too far' with no middle ground.

Admittedly, a lot of those photos aren't very good. As I kept taking photos, I started standing more and more upright, then leaning back, instead of holding the camera straight down at the image.

You know when you stand close to a TV and look down at the image on it and everyone looks really short? That kind of thing.

 Pouncey wrote:
For 40k, Escalation lets you use certain superheavies and gargantuan creatures in otherwise normal games of 40k, with every army getting at least one superheavy or gargantuan creature or similar biggun, with some getting access to more. Stronghold Assault lets you use more fortifications than normal in a normal game of 40k, and the book provides updated rules for using fortifications (possibly just for Stronghold Assault, they didn't specify).

In Fantasy, Sigmar's Blood is a narrative campaign supplement book. Contains rules, hobby stuff, historical info, scenarios, and "examples of painted Citadel figures". The point is apparently to get a few players to get together and recreate the armies and battles described in the book. Apparently there's a scenario for every major battle described in the book. A variety of heroes and villains are described, and apparently there are ongoing effects from one battle to the next, and the outcome of a battle can affect other battles to come.

I'm leery on the idea of Escalation (more on the idea of allowing Strength D into regular 40K; super-heavies themselves are no big deal), but I like the idea. I like the fortification book idea even more. I loves me my fortification terrain!

And another campaign book? Good. They should do more of these.

So we don't have to click

I like the Kor Phaedron (SP??) model, but for some reason that paintjob makes him look like a mis-coloured Simpson's character.

The Rangers and Palace Guard look pretty cool. The spiders are sufficiently creepy. The Dwarves in the barrels are funny (and nicely sculpted). The rest... meh.