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 BrookM wrote:
Still hoping for that plastic Thunderbolt kit.

........ Since the valk will now (supposedly) be able to take vendetta loadout, that leaves open another fast choice. GW may in fact allow a thunderbolt model from fw, but might have new air to ground weapons, in essence making a "new" fighter.... I remember way back when, fw had a valk model only (no GW plastic), and many said GW wouldn't make a plastic valk since fw had one already... But there it is, so a plastic thunderbolt (or tweaked) model is probable....

A few years before the plastic Valkyrie was released the CAD design of it was used in one of FW's two Aeronautica Imperialis books, an interesting preview to say the least.

The more I think about it, the only thing I really want is a remotely internally balanced Codex. I'm not even that picky about its overall power level as long as everything is even somewhat viable.

I know, probably wishlisting more than the plastic Steel Legion stuff, but a man can dream.

The older rumour was a new guard box or sprue that would have steel legion & supposedly trench coat (waists) (i.e. valhallan).....

I am more interested in the knight paladin rumor, since there are two separate "eye witnesses" of the said model... stating "...it was about 7.5" tall and stayed true to the original style..".. That'd be great & since almost every army is getting, or has, a giant walker, that'd be probable IMHO

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
I am more interested in the knight paladin rumor, since there are two separate "eye witnesses" of the said model... stating "...it was about 7.5" tall and stayed true to the original style..".. That'd be great & since almost every army is getting, or has, a giant walker, that'd be probable IMHO

Were they really two different people?

 BrookM wrote:
A few years before the plastic Valkyrie was released the CAD design of it was used in one of FW's two Aeronautica Imperialis books, an interesting preview to say the least.

The FW 28mm scaled Valk came out in winter 2005/ spring 06 (I had one & it was a pain to put together!) & GWs plastic out in 2009....aeronautica Released in January 2007.....


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 pretre wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
I am more interested in the knight paladin rumor, since there are two separate "eye witnesses" of the said model... stating "...it was about 7.5" tall and stayed true to the original style..".. That'd be great & since almost every army is getting, or has, a giant walker, that'd be probable IMHO

Were they really two different people?

Yes, the 40k Radio folks recently, and last November by .... I forget the source right now, but let me google it again....might have been StrykerSniper 11-8-2013

gravitywell wrote:
For the new Ogryns/Bullgryns... For new plastics released in 6th so far, have there been any bad units? Or can guard players look forward to fielding Ogryns?

(ie GW wants people to buy them)

I don’t play either army, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard a good thing said about how the Tau and Dark Angels flyers play. So just because it’s new does not mean it’s going to be good.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
I am more interested in the knight paladin rumor, since there are two separate "eye witnesses" of the said model... stating "...it was about 7.5" tall and stayed true to the original style..".. That'd be great & since almost every army is getting, or has, a giant walker, that'd be probable IMHO

Were they really two different people?

Yes, the 40k Radio folks recently, and last November by .... I forget the source right now, but let me google it again....

Save yourself some time... 40kradio didn't actually say they had seen them (that I've seen). Vela and must stay anonymous source for Natfka did but they are low reliability pile on folks.

Foolheart wrote:
Is it just me or does that seem like too much? I can buy the stuff that is currently metal being made into plastic kits. However, for Gaurd, there is still so much metal, Ogryn, rough riders, Steel Legion...

So I am guessing we won't see half of the rumored stuff in April, but may see it rolled out over the course of the year.

Any thoughts?

First, I consider some of the track records of a couple of the rumormongers involved. Next, I think about what we've seen with 6th edition codices -- rulesets that are more tweaked than overhauled, alongside a moderate number of new kits.

So yeah, put me down as highly skeptical about anything more than that. Don't get me wrong though -- I'm all for the rumors flowing. I'm just going to be extremely skeptical of rumors that don't fit the 6th edition pattern, or from people who have gotten things very, very wrong in the recent past.

 pretre wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
I am more interested in the knight paladin rumor, since there are two separate "eye witnesses" of the said model... stating "...it was about 7.5" tall and stayed true to the original style..".. That'd be great & since almost every army is getting, or has, a giant walker, that'd be probable IMHO

Were they really two different people?

Yes, the 40k Radio folks recently, and last November by .... I forget the source right now, but let me google it again....

Save yourself some time... 40kradio didn't actually say they had seen them (that I've seen). Vela and must stay anonymous source for Natfka did but they are low reliability pile on folks.

I hear ya bro. If it happens great. If it doesn't, I am making my own!

I'm not particularly interested in getting the Ogryn models to begin with, unless they really look something special I'd vastly prefer to eventually build a squad of Thallax and use them as Ogryns.

I'd really, really like to get good rules and good models for Rough Riders, even more than Stormies. It would vastly increase the variety of my games (not to say I don't do the odd gung-ho charge where I forget I'm using Guardsmen) and would fit with my main company's recon/light infantry theme quite well.

Also, for the love of god and all that is great, please give me Beast Hunter shells in Codex for my Vanquishers. I don't want to get boned by Riptides once the Vendetta gets nerfed into oblivion.

That new name is utter and complete horsegak.

I hope those Ogyrn with riot shields rumors are true.

I play Arbites using the IG codex so this would be a dream come true

I am looking forward to what they do with the flyer and new big kit for IG.

Most armies I'm pretty "meh" about the flyer and big kit they get because they feel shoehorned in. But IG to me have always been about cool flyers and cool tanks, so I'm very interested to see what they do with them.

My only question is should I buy a bunch of Heavy Weapon teams now to avoid the inevitable price rise, LOL.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I am looking forward to what they do with the flyer and new big kit for IG.

Most armies I'm pretty "meh" about the flyer and big kit they get because they feel shoehorned in. But IG to me have always been about cool flyers and cool tanks, so I'm very interested to see what they do with them.

My only question is should I buy a bunch of Heavy Weapon teams now to avoid the inevitable price rise, LOL.

I was thinking about buying up some hvy weapon teams too, but I worried gw will make them not worth running or add on new weapons that are far better than current choices lol.

I am pretty excited for this release, being the first time I've had an army prior to an update. I don't really care for ogryns, but if the rules are good I might pick some up.

 aliusexalio wrote:
That new name is utter and complete horsegak.

They've been trending towards Latin names... Adeptus Astra Telepathica, Adepta Sororitas, Adeptus Mechanicus, Ordo Malleus, and so on..... Seems likely....


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Adeptus Militaris would be most likely if anything...

 l0k1 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I am looking forward to what they do with the flyer and new big kit for IG.

Most armies I'm pretty "meh" about the flyer and big kit they get because they feel shoehorned in. But IG to me have always been about cool flyers and cool tanks, so I'm very interested to see what they do with them.

My only question is should I buy a bunch of Heavy Weapon teams now to avoid the inevitable price rise, LOL.

I was thinking about buying up some hvy weapon teams too, but I worried gw will make them not worth running or add on new weapons that are far better than current choices lol.

I am pretty excited for this release, being the first time I've had an army prior to an update. I don't really care for ogryns, but if the rules are good I might pick some up.

I almost got some last week but there were only Rambo IG HWTs available at the store.I'm not worried about the HW loosing their place in the IG. I don't think the HWT box will get new weapons plus with a little bit of work the HWT is one of the best bang for your money kits GW has.

M.

 Nevelon wrote:

gravitywell wrote:
For the new Ogryns/Bullgryns... For new plastics released in 6th so far, have there been any bad units? Or can guard players look forward to fielding Ogryns?

(ie GW wants people to buy them)

I don’t play either army, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard a good thing said about how the Tau and Dark Angels flyers play. So just because it’s new does not mean it’s going to be good.

The DA fliers are just bad. They suffered a kneejerk nerf after the reaction to fliers in general, so are weaker than they should be.
Tau fliers are decent and flexible, the problem is that they take up points that can be used on Riptides, Broadsides, Crisis suits, and Hammerheads. They aren't bad, they just are generally replaced by other options in the book.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:

 aliusexalio wrote:
That new name is utter and complete horsegak.

They've been trending towards Latin names... Adeptus Astra Telepathica, Adepta Sororitas, Adeptus Mechanicus, Ordo Malleus, and so on..... Seems likely....

But none of those names were ever anything else were they? When you say trending, you are using examples that have existed the whole time, which isn't really a trend...

Even if they do change the name, it should try to fit in with what already exists and the name I saw rumoured didn't fit which is a shame.

I vote for Adeptus Lemmingus.

M.

 Slaanesh-Devotee wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:

 aliusexalio wrote:
That new name is utter and complete horsegak.

They've been trending towards Latin names... Adeptus Astra Telepathica, Adepta Sororitas, Adeptus Mechanicus, Ordo Malleus, and so on..... Seems likely....

But none of those names were ever anything else were they? When you say trending, you are using examples that have existed the whole time, which isn't really a trend...

Even if they do change the name, it should try to fit in with what already exists and the name I saw rumoured didn't fit which is a shame.

....... okay, a pattern then.....

Not of replacing the name. Things having a High and Low Gothic name is normal. Outright removing "Imperial Guard" and replacing it with a High Gothic name is a bad thing.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not of replacing the name. Things having a High and Low Gothic name is normal. Outright removing "Imperial Guard" and replacing it with a High Gothic name is a bad thing.

But but but trademarking, brand names, and money!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not of replacing the name. Things having a High and Low Gothic name is normal. Outright removing "Imperial Guard" and replacing it with a High Gothic name is a bad thing.

it's happened once already....

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not of replacing the name. Things having a High and Low Gothic name is normal. Outright removing "Imperial Guard" and replacing it with a High Gothic name is a bad thing.

Likely just on the cover of the book, product line names. Inside the book I expect them to stay Imperial Guard, ect.

And replacing a low gothic name with a high gothic one? Besides Sisters of Battle/Adepta Sororitas, you have the Space Sharks/Cahcaradons.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not of replacing the name. Things having a High and Low Gothic name is normal. Outright removing "Imperial Guard" and replacing it with a High Gothic name is a bad thing.

it's happened once already....

No, it hasn't. Even that first Sisters of Battle codex referred to their organisation as the Adepta Sororitas. Both are valid. They did not just make up an entirely new name, like they're doing for the "Astra Militarum".

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
you have the Space Sharks/Cahcaradons.

This one is a valid example. But unlike the Imperial Guard, Space Sharks is both less iconic and more goofy.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
it's happened once already....

But they're still called Sisters of Battle, and they always had the name Adeptus Sororitas (or Adepta).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

But they're still called Sisters of Battle, and they always had the name Adeptus Sororitas (or Adepta).

I think that Adeptus Sororitas actually predates Sisters of Battle (Which I think stems from the 2nd ed codex).

Ineptus Suicidius

Well, it was bound to happen regardless, the Imperial Navy got the title Aeronautica Imperialis somewhere down the line.