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 Kosake wrote:

 Tower75 wrote:
A giant walker? So, does this mean we get a HH-era tank "bigger than a Land Raider" as well as a giant walker?

I personally don't like the walker idea. Tracked vehicles all the way.

Actually, wheeled vehicles have 1/10th the upkeep costs, 1/6th of the maintenance requirements and can be constructed to have even better cross country mobility... In a mass army like the IG, I wonder why the only guard vehicles on wheels are the light tauros buggies.

Tracked vehicles have better cross-country performance at heavier weights. It's why no one makes a 70-ton MBT as a wheeled vehicle.




That and you can't say "Driver, track pad, troops" in a wheeled vehicle.

BairdEC wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Tower75 wrote:
A giant walker? So, does this mean we get a HH-era tank "bigger than a Land Raider" as well as a giant walker?

I personally don't like the walker idea. Tracked vehicles all the way.

Actually, wheeled vehicles have 1/10th the upkeep costs, 1/6th of the maintenance requirements and can be constructed to have even better cross country mobility... In a mass army like the IG, I wonder why the only guard vehicles on wheels are the light tauros buggies.

Tracked vehicles have better cross-country performance at heavier weights. It's why no one makes a 70-ton MBT as a wheeled vehicle.




That and you can't say "Driver, track pad, troops" in a wheeled vehicle.

Part of the guard look is an archaic old war style type warfare, guard as a whole should never look modernised as it defeats the look and idea they have had for ages. Its what has drawn me to the guard personally and if they modernise the guard to look "cooler" for the COD generation that we live in im gonna drop 40k haha.

As to wheels over tracks, well I. Disagree.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/2wheels98.pdf

This should help you out, wheels are better on road and are cheaper, thats why my country and its tiny arsenal of LAVs all use tyres. As we dont plan on going to war or paying much for our vehicles.

 Swastakowey wrote:

BairdEC wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Tower75 wrote:
A giant walker? So, does this mean we get a HH-era tank "bigger than a Land Raider" as well as a giant walker?

I personally don't like the walker idea. Tracked vehicles all the way.

Actually, wheeled vehicles have 1/10th the upkeep costs, 1/6th of the maintenance requirements and can be constructed to have even better cross country mobility... In a mass army like the IG, I wonder why the only guard vehicles on wheels are the light tauros buggies.

Tracked vehicles have better cross-country performance at heavier weights. It's why no one makes a 70-ton MBT as a wheeled vehicle.




That and you can't say "Driver, track pad, troops" in a wheeled vehicle.

Part of the guard look is an archaic old war style type warfare, guard as a whole should never look modernised as it defeats the look and idea they have had for ages. Its what has drawn me to the guard personally and if they modernise the guard to look "cooler" for the COD generation that we live in im gonna drop 40k haha.

As to wheels over tracks, well I. Disagree.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/2wheels98.pdf

This should help you out, wheels are better on road and are cheaper, thats why my country and its tiny arsenal of LAVs all use tyres. As we dont plan on going to war or paying much for our vehicles.

In any case wheels or tracks will not save you from Orcs, Hobbits, Ents, or Sauron, that is what the Eagle Brigade is for,

 guardpiper wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

BairdEC wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Tower75 wrote:
A giant walker? So, does this mean we get a HH-era tank "bigger than a Land Raider" as well as a giant walker?

I personally don't like the walker idea. Tracked vehicles all the way.

Actually, wheeled vehicles have 1/10th the upkeep costs, 1/6th of the maintenance requirements and can be constructed to have even better cross country mobility... In a mass army like the IG, I wonder why the only guard vehicles on wheels are the light tauros buggies.

Tracked vehicles have better cross-country performance at heavier weights. It's why no one makes a 70-ton MBT as a wheeled vehicle.




That and you can't say "Driver, track pad, troops" in a wheeled vehicle.

Part of the guard look is an archaic old war style type warfare, guard as a whole should never look modernised as it defeats the look and idea they have had for ages. Its what has drawn me to the guard personally and if they modernise the guard to look "cooler" for the COD generation that we live in im gonna drop 40k haha.

As to wheels over tracks, well I. Disagree.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/2wheels98.pdf

This should help you out, wheels are better on road and are cheaper, thats why my country and its tiny arsenal of LAVs all use tyres. As we dont plan on going to war or paying much for our vehicles.

In any case wheels or tracks will not save you from Orcs, Hobbits, Ents, or Sauron, that is what the Eagle Brigade is for,

The eagles are a dramatisation of our flightless kiwi bird "A squadron". Not as effective as the movie depicts.

 Swastakowey wrote:

 guardpiper wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

BairdEC wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Tower75 wrote:
A giant walker? So, does this mean we get a HH-era tank "bigger than a Land Raider" as well as a giant walker?

I personally don't like the walker idea. Tracked vehicles all the way.

Actually, wheeled vehicles have 1/10th the upkeep costs, 1/6th of the maintenance requirements and can be constructed to have even better cross country mobility... In a mass army like the IG, I wonder why the only guard vehicles on wheels are the light tauros buggies.

Tracked vehicles have better cross-country performance at heavier weights. It's why no one makes a 70-ton MBT as a wheeled vehicle.




That and you can't say "Driver, track pad, troops" in a wheeled vehicle.

Part of the guard look is an archaic old war style type warfare, guard as a whole should never look modernised as it defeats the look and idea they have had for ages. Its what has drawn me to the guard personally and if they modernise the guard to look "cooler" for the COD generation that we live in im gonna drop 40k haha.

As to wheels over tracks, well I. Disagree.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/2wheels98.pdf

This should help you out, wheels are better on road and are cheaper, thats why my country and its tiny arsenal of LAVs all use tyres. As we dont plan on going to war or paying much for our vehicles.

In any case wheels or tracks will not save you from Orcs, Hobbits, Ents, or Sauron, that is what the Eagle Brigade is for,

The eagles are a dramatisation of our flightless kiwi bird "A squadron". Not as effective as the movie depicts.

Oh, I disagree. They have the element of surpise on their side; no one would ever expect ground-based fliers.

New better name for IG:

Punchicus Bagicus

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 guardpiper wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

BairdEC wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Tower75 wrote:
A giant walker? So, does this mean we get a HH-era tank "bigger than a Land Raider" as well as a giant walker?

I personally don't like the walker idea. Tracked vehicles all the way.

Actually, wheeled vehicles have 1/10th the upkeep costs, 1/6th of the maintenance requirements and can be constructed to have even better cross country mobility... In a mass army like the IG, I wonder why the only guard vehicles on wheels are the light tauros buggies.

Tracked vehicles have better cross-country performance at heavier weights. It's why no one makes a 70-ton MBT as a wheeled vehicle.




That and you can't say "Driver, track pad, troops" in a wheeled vehicle.

Part of the guard look is an archaic old war style type warfare, guard as a whole should never look modernised as it defeats the look and idea they have had for ages. Its what has drawn me to the guard personally and if they modernise the guard to look "cooler" for the COD generation that we live in im gonna drop 40k haha.

As to wheels over tracks, well I. Disagree.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/2wheels98.pdf

This should help you out, wheels are better on road and are cheaper, thats why my country and its tiny arsenal of LAVs all use tyres. As we dont plan on going to war or paying much for our vehicles.

In any case wheels or tracks will not save you from Orcs, Hobbits, Ents, or Sauron, that is what the Eagle Brigade is for,

The eagles are a dramatisation of our flightless kiwi bird "A squadron". Not as effective as the movie depicts.

Oh, I disagree. They have the element of surpise on their side; no one would ever expect ground-based fliers.

The next problem is due to their rarity they are too expensive for our economy to use them in battle you see, The loss of one will cripple our economy. Sheep however, can do the job without bankrupting us.

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=NZ+army+sheep&client=firefox-a&hs=1Em&rls=org.mozilla:en-GBfficial&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=o4T-UvvMF8eeiAeb-4GwDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=770#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=5jQbsEemc5nIuM%253A%3B3tBpv2uF29EGOM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fchristianlongdotorg.files.wordpress.com%252F2013%252F10%252Fblack-sheep-nz-taffic-jam.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fchristian-long.org%252F%3B1024%3B576

Sheep in training on feild day

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=NZ+army+sheep&client=firefox-a&hs=1Em&rls=org.mozilla:en-GBfficial&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=o4T-UvvMF8eeiAeb-4GwDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=770#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=zVO82SY2XH0KwM%253A%3BFu9BFG1KpSeelM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F2.bp.blogspot.com%252F-REAgd265YcI%252FUoWsqMGy_OI%252FAAAAAAAAAyI%252FPEtTHhzCmCo%252Fs1600%252Fsheep%25252Bwith%25252Bguns.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fakaspecialk.blogspot.com%252F2013%252F11%252Fdifferences-between-america-and-new.html%3B554%3B386

Sheep prepared for D-day landings of 98, many sheep (including the one pictured) fell in combat that day.

Anyways thats enough poking fun at my country At least we try. with the help of orks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Semple_tank

Haha

I like that tank.

It look roight 'n proppa.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I like that tank.

It look roight 'n proppa.

I need to be more patriotic and make one for my guard army. Its funny because I can walk down the road, get all the bits to make the tank (except the guns which are illegal) and assemble it in my yard, and its legal as long as I dont use it on roads haha. Ill put in rifles and go possum hunting in a technically military grade tank Its seriously just a shed put on top of a tracor...

Dont get me started on ork influence on NZ, its a consipiracy I swear...

fyi - see imperial knight thread for more

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
fyi - see imperial knight thread for more

Its... beautiful.

40k Radio on Facebook wrote:Astra Militarium (Imperial Guard):
Stormtroopers (plastic)
Bullgryns (old Ogryns)
Commissar Squads
New Larger Transport

Stormtroopers, Commissar Squads, and Bullgryns are Astra Auxilary. These units may be taken as "plug-ins" to other Imperial armies.

Catachans and Cadians are covered in the new codex. Catachans are not going to direct only.

Orks are in June.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/40K-Radio/147396461962884

Too bad 40k Radio has a good rumour record.
Only thing I don't get is this "Catachans are not going to direct only", because they already ARE completely!

Commissars Squads as plugins to other Imperial armies.

"Not one step back men! The Emperor orders us to take not one step back."
"We are withdrawing to a better firing position."
"I'll execute you for cowardice and heresy if you dare move from that spot."
"I am Terminator Sergeant Lucius Verran, the Blade of Kilnar, veteran of thirty campaigns and have served the Brazen Skulls Chapter for over 300 years. But no, little man, take out your Laspistol and wave it in my face for 'cowardice'. Let's see who wins this particular battle."
"Uhh... carry on, Sergeant. My squad will... umm... hold the ridge ourselves."
"You do that. Squad Verran, move out."

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
fyi - see imperial knight thread for more

Mother of all ugly.

Who threw up all that bling over my titan/dread/whateveritwas.

 Kroothawk wrote:

40k Radio on Facebook wrote:Astra Militarium (Imperial Guard):
Stormtroopers (plastic)
Bullgryns (old Ogryns)
Commissar Squads
New Larger Transport

So no Oggies with riot shields? Sad.

Commissar squads though could be fun. Although I don't see the point to them. Unless of course you buy 'X' Commies in 1 squad and then peel them off and attach them to other squads.

Wonder if Stormtroopers in plastic means just that, or if they'll still be the rumoured vets/storm duel kit.

Indeed, not sure what the use would be in regards to a whole squad of Hangmen. If it's like the Wolf Guard being bought as a squad but then broken up across the army, neat, but if this is GW's attempt at say, an Imperial Guard oriented assault squad, ha, ha, ha.. Nope.

Or maybe it's like the Apocalyptic datasheet found in Pandorax, where they buff units within a certain radius.

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, not sure what the use would be in regards to a whole squad of Hangmen. If it's like the Wolf Guard being bought as a squad but then broken up across the army, neat, but if this is GW's attempt at say, an Imperial Guard oriented assault squad, ha, ha, ha.. Nope.

Or maybe it's like the Apocalyptic datasheet found in Pandorax, where they buff units within a certain radius.

Well, according to Lexicanum, if these guys are a Cadet Commissar squad, they would be extremely brave troops that would fight hard to the end to prove their worth. The "sarge" would be a proper commissar, and they would provide a massive morale boost to nearby units, since apparently "any force which has a Cadet Commissar squad attached to them feels destined for victory".

Probably not super awesome gamewise, but it would be awesome to see a small squad of commissar cadets able to give morale boosts to all units within 12" of them or something like that.

1. 'Special Weapons' squad. and will Heavy stubber becomes one too? Chaos Cultists fielded ones in large numbers and it appears to work as SAW rather than HMG

2. The new 'veteran' rule is to prevent 'Veterans overkill'. but does it means player can't equip vets with HW and SpecialWeapons in the same section? meow

3. New Rough Riders. will they get their carabines back too? and what will be mounts for them (Horses or Bikes)? will they be Attilans or cadians?

4. And will regular sarge gets an option to use rifle instead of pistol+ccw back?

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

Well, according to Lexicanum, if these guys are a Cadet Commissar squad, they would be extremely brave troops that would fight hard to the end to prove their worth. The "sarge" would be a proper commissar, and they would provide a massive morale boost to nearby units, since apparently "any force which has a Cadet Commissar squad attached to them feels destined for victory".

This is what I suspect (hope) that they are. Commissars are already far too common on 40k battlefields as it is.

 Palindrome wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

Well, according to Lexicanum, if these guys are a Cadet Commissar squad, they would be extremely brave troops that would fight hard to the end to prove their worth. The "sarge" would be a proper commissar, and they would provide a massive morale boost to nearby units, since apparently "any force which has a Cadet Commissar squad attached to them feels destined for victory".

This is what I suspect (hope) that they are. Commissars are already far too common on 40k battlefields as it is.

Not nearly as common as they used to be. Ever since 6th hit I've seen them die off sharply in most players' armies, even infantry guard players. They just got sniped easily and it made you wonder why you bothered sometimes. That said, watching a commissar chuck 7 Guardsmen in front of him and pass five +6 saves from a single unit shooting has to be one of the funniest/most inspirational things I've ever seen. Too bad he got stomped trying to charge a Hive Tyrant the next turn

Honestly, seeing more than one or two commissars never really bothered me, since the reasons why you would see them usually matched up the way they were played. If you were going to send a ton of guardsmen into close combat assaults with the most horrifying creatures in the galaxy, I'd imagine you would need a higher concentration of Commissars than normal.

 Lone Cat wrote:
1. 'Special Weapons' squad. and will Heavy stubber becomes one too? Chaos Cultists fielded ones in large numbers and it appears to work as SAW rather than HMG

SAW = what?

SAW = Squad Automatic Weapon

Most commonly a M249 Light Machine Gun I believe.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Lone Cat wrote:
1. 'Special Weapons' squad. and will Heavy stubber becomes one too? Chaos Cultists fielded ones in large numbers and it appears to work as SAW rather than HMG

SAW = what?

Squad Automatic Weapon.

Edit: Ninja'd.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Commissars Squads as plugins to other Imperial armies.

"Not one step back men! The Emperor orders us to take not one step back."
"We are withdrawing to a better firing position."
"I'll execute you for cowardice and heresy if you dare move from that spot."
"I am Terminator Sergeant Lucius Verran, the Blade of Kilnar, veteran of thirty campaigns and have served the Brazen Skulls Chapter for over 300 years. But no, little man, take out your Laspistol and wave it in my face for 'cowardice'. Let's see who wins this particular battle."
"Uhh... carry on, Sergeant. My squad will... umm... hold the ridge ourselves."
"You do that. Squad Verran, move out."

I was very sad when GW changed the rules so that allied commissars attached to other armies wouldn't execute them. I was going to troll every apocalypse game by bringing a commissar for every squad on my side and seeing how many ancient heroes of the Imperium I could execute for cowardice.

I'll say again, if we get commissar squad instead of something actually important like medusa and colossus model variants I will f#$%#$Ying explode.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

Not nearly as common as they used to be. Ever since 6th hit I've seen them die off sharply in most players' armies, even infantry guard players.

They used to be 1 per regiment....

 ph34r wrote:
I'll say again, if we get commissar squad instead of something actually important like medusa and colossus model variants I will f#$%#$Ying explode.

Make new units vs give old units?

Nope. That's not the GW way. Instead:

1. Units w/no model = cut from Codex.
2. Make new units instead.
3. ?????
4. Increasing prices and reduced volume = nil growth!


I'd've put "profits", as is usually the joke for the number 4 item on that list, but we are talking about GW here.

 Palindrome wrote:
They used to be 1 per regiment....

Since when were they only 1 per regiment?

 Snrub wrote:
They used to be 1 per regiment....

Since when were they only 1 per regiment?

I was looking for a source on what you said. I wasn't looking for you to just say it again.