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Ashiraya wrote: Yep. The feminism movement overall wants equality, not revenge.
Don't know how it works in scandinavian countries, but in France, the feminism movement really is about equality if it means giving more to women.
Our feminists want to reduce sex inequalities and enforce positive discrimination in administration boards and all the $$$$$ jobs. I'm okay with that, but most feminists don't want to hear about sex equality behind dumpster trucks. And definitely not in nurseries. So, it's not really about reducing inequalities, but mostly about "having it all".
I've even heard feminists say things like because men are strong and women are caring.
Not even talking about the family. Inequalities after the divorce? What inequalities?
And these are really very simple issues. Some topics can get a lot more complicated, especially things related to pregnancy because the body of one person is carrying the fruit of two... In some cases, there just can't be any equality and the society basically has to chose between screwing the women or screwing the fathers...
Litcheur wrote: I'm okay with that, but most feminists don't want to hear about sex equality behind dumpster trucks.
That's because nobody wants those jobs. You don't see men arguing for greater access to bad jobs that women tend to have, and you don't see women arguing for greater access to bad jobs that men tend to have. That's just how the world works, nobody is going to invest any effort into working to get something they have no interest in getting.
Some topics can get a lot more complicated, especially things related to pregnancy because the body of one person is carrying the fruit of two... In some cases, there just can't be any equality and the society basically has to chose between screwing the women or screwing the fathers...
It's only "screwing" the fathers is you assume that the father is entitled to a share of the decision simply because they contributed some genetic material. The burden of pregnancy is not even close to equal, therefore the right to make the decision shouldn't be either.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Ashiraya wrote: A very sexually active man is successful, a very sexually active woman is slutty.
1) You're 17 year old female posting things about sex in a thread full of men probably well over 20. Recipe for disaster.
It's worth pointing out that the age of consent is 16 in most European countries, trex.
Saying that, I don't go any younger than 20 and even then, feels kind of weird.
Anyone else have a (non legally mandated) floor or ceiling, in terms of prospective matches? My girlfriend is 30, which seems to work well, though I usually prefer women around 25-26.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm 32, btw.
I used to have a friend who said.
If there is grass on the field... Play ball.... If not? Go out back and play in the mud....
Litcheur wrote: I'm okay with that, but most feminists don't want to hear about sex equality behind dumpster trucks.
That's because nobody wants those jobs. You don't see men arguing for greater access to bad jobs that women tend to have, and you don't see women arguing for greater access to bad jobs that men tend to have. That's just how the world works, nobody is going to invest any effort into working to get something they have no interest in getting.
Some topics can get a lot more complicated, especially things related to pregnancy because the body of one person is carrying the fruit of two... In some cases, there just can't be any equality and the society basically has to chose between screwing the women or screwing the fathers...
It's only "screwing" the fathers is you assume that the father is entitled to a share of the decision simply because they contributed some genetic material. The burden of pregnancy is not even close to equal, therefore the right to make the decision shouldn't be either.
Oh, look. It's this nonsense again. Take it to PMs or a new thread. Better yet, get Melissia to browbeat him into submission.
Ashiraya wrote: A very sexually active man is successful, a very sexually active woman is slutty.
1) You're 17 year old female posting things about sex in a thread full of men probably well over 20. Recipe for disaster.
It's worth pointing out that the age of consent is 16 in most European countries, trex.
Saying that, I don't go any younger than 20 and even then, feels kind of weird.
Anyone else have a (non legally mandated) floor or ceiling, in terms of prospective matches? My girlfriend is 30, which seems to work well, though I usually prefer women around 25-26.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm 32, btw.
I used to have a friend who said.
If there is grass on the field... Play ball.... If not? Go out back and play in the mud....
My friend was kinda gross....
Kind of being an understatement.
hotsauceman1 wrote:So, Predictably, my cousin(More like m big over protective sister) finds out somehow. Now she is all sad I got rejected the first time I asked a girl out, how she is worried im scarred from the experiance.
I shutter to think of what she will do when i do get a girlfriend
At least you went for it. Also, daily reminder that looks are not the end all be all of relationships. Being average/slightly attractive with a pleasant personality is much better than being a sex god/goddess and being a complete PITA.
Albatross wrote:That was actually my avatar for quite a while...
Now you look sad and lonely. :(
The only way we can ever solve anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy
hotsauceman1 wrote:So, Predictably, my cousin(More like m big over protective sister) finds out somehow. Now she is all sad I got rejected the first time I asked a girl out, how she is worried im scarred from the experiance.
I shutter to think of what she will do when i do get a girlfriend
At least you went for it. Also, daily reminder that looks are not the end all be all of relationships. Being average/slightly attractive with a pleasant personality is much better than being a sex god/goddess and being a complete PITA.
There are some things I can do to look better. And I just am laughing at it now. I didnt want my cousin to know because this is how she would react.
hotsauceman1 wrote: So, Predictably, my cousin(More like m big over protective sister) finds out somehow. Now she is all sad I got rejected the first time I asked a girl out, how she is worried im scarred from the experiance.
I shutter to think of what she will do when i do get a girlfriend
You're mid to late twenties right?
Rudely remind her of that fact and tell her to stfu, lol.
I just laugh at it when she does. She is over protective of me(being a big sister kinda) I think it is mostly that she has had a string of bad relationships. The other cousin was happy I overcame my fear and said "I hope that means you can get some dates in college"
Litcheur wrote: I'm okay with that, but most feminists don't want to hear about sex equality behind dumpster trucks.
That's because nobody wants those jobs. You don't see men arguing for greater access to bad jobs that women tend to have, and you don't see women arguing for greater access to bad jobs that men tend to have. That's just how the world works, nobody is going to invest any effort into working to get something they have no interest in getting.
A bad job is indeed a bad job. However, some bad jobs tend to be physically harder, and most of them are taken by men, because one usually assume that "men are tough, women are caring". Which is a pretty sexist statement. The same statement is usually used to lower men that want to work with kids, or even see them as freaks.
If one's truly fighting for equality, that "tough vs caring" topic should be considered too. But are feminists really fighting for equality?
Some topics can get a lot more complicated, especially things related to pregnancy because the body of one person is carrying the fruit of two... In some cases, there just can't be any equality and the society basically has to chose between screwing the women or screwing the fathers...
It's only "screwing" the fathers is you assume that the father is entitled to a share of the decision simply because they contributed some genetic material. The burden of pregnancy is not even close to equal, therefore the right to make the decision shouldn't be either.
A mother is more than a womb and a father is more than a pair of testicles carrying a wallet. Fathers "could" feel entitled to a share of the decision, especially in countries where paternity is some kind of boomerang that can come back and haunt you several years later. Again, there's no definitive good answer to that question.
One can see pregnancy as a burden. Or not. I'm okay with both statements. But take everything that goes with it, okay? Not the good old "pregnancy and motherhood are definitely a burden when we're talking about family rights, and totally not relevant when talking about wages and job opportunities". If something is relevant (or not), it should be relevant (or not) in every single aspect of your life.
Being a man has pros and cons, being a woman has pros and cons. If you want to fight for equality, you take some, you give some. But in the end, you can't have it all. Nobody can.
Even in machist countries (at least civilized ones), women aren't some kind of frail creatures that are enslaved. They're strong, and they have a lot of power. It's a different kind of power that works in other areas of our lives than just jobs and politics.
Italy isn't ruled by machos. It's ruled by mammas.
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This sort of discussion is all well and good but it really belongs in its own thread or PMs, not one about how to get a date.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Albatross wrote: Anyone else have a (non legally mandated) floor or ceiling, in terms of prospective matches?
When it feels weird for either one of us. Maybe I would care more if I had actually experienced what it means to be in a relationship…
Avatar 720 wrote: All you guys here are 30+ and I'm sitting here at 21 twiddling my thumbs.
Well, hotsauceman1 is exactly your age. I am the one who is pretty late here, at 27 and still forever alone.
Litcheur wrote: Don't know how it works in scandinavian countries, but in France, the feminism movement really is about equality if it means giving more to women.
No, that is not true. I am not giving any arguments as to not turn this into a debate, I could give them in PM or a dedicated topic.
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hotsauceman1 wrote: I agree, I need advice on how to get laid, not a philosophy discussion of the merits of feminism
I really hope the first half of this was a joke.
Isnt that the goal of dating?
Sigh...
No its not, not at all. If you want a booty call just go to town, heaps of drunk people looking for one night stands left and right. But for dating, thats the complete opposite. I'm guessing if you get to this point, its a girl you have liked for maybe a while, and I dont see it as a way ofjust getting inot her pants. Unless I have misunderstood the whole point of this thread. It not how to get laid ut how to get a date.
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hotsauceman1 wrote: I agree, I need advice on how to get laid, not a philosophy discussion of the merits of feminism
I really hope the first half of this was a joke.
Why? Is it really so crazy to believe that socially awkward gamers aren't getting laid because they don't want to?
It's not for lack of trying...some of the guys in this thread legitimately need advice. There's nothing wrong with asking for it. I suggest Tinder but apparently Dakka O/T has formed its own opinions of me as a soulless womanizing jerk.
To be honest, if I'm not having sex with someone, I'd rather have a guy friend. My interests (gaming, shooting, weight lifting) are generally male-dominated and I'd rather do them with a "buddy" than some girl who is only pretending she's having fun. Remove sex from the equation, and I would have zero female friends. As it is, I really don't have any female "just friends." If I'm not having sex with them currently, I'm trying to, or at the very least I'm trying to feth their friends.
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Im surprised no one realizes im taking the piss outta you guys.
No, what I want in a girl is someone I can talk to, enjoy spending time with and drink till we are both pretending we are vampire hunters and invade the local vampire larpers and ruin there fun.
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
NuggzTheNinja wrote: To be honest, if I'm not having sex with someone, I'd rather have a guy friend. My interests (gaming, shooting, weight lifting) are generally male-dominated and I'd rather do them with a "buddy" than some girl who is only pretending she's having fun
NuggzTheNinja wrote: To be honest, if I'm not having sex with someone, I'd rather have a guy friend. My interests (gaming, shooting, weight lifting) are generally male-dominated and I'd rather do them with a "buddy" than some girl who is only pretending she's having fun