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Er - not to burst your bubble but I did cover this up the page a bit.
Damn - page flip - see page 14

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

What is kind of amusing as well is the fact that when Codex: Iron Warriors...I mean, the 3.5 Codex: Chaos Space Marines was "revised", most of the complaints were centered around "We lost X, Y, and Z!" when at the same time other armies were losing similar things.

You know what I lost? I lost the ability to play my army. I feel for everyone else who lost special rules, but at least Trait and Doctrine users weren't pretty much told "your army doesn't exist as a fighting force in the 40k universe anymore, buy something else".

I have had far too many blastmasters to field, since I lost the ability to take them in Havoc squads. Oh, not to mention that, until the current codex, my Noise Marine squad leaders who had plasma pistols were illegal.

Advance Orders for Codex Crimson Slaughter, the new Helbrute, new Attack Force and related merchandise are now up on the GW website.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCatsLarge.jsp?catId=cat440160a&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k

Prices on several existing Chaos Space Marine kits have gone up about $2 US in most cases. Example: Forgefiend up to $68 US from $66, Raptors up to $35 from $33.

Helbrute variations:













Limited Edition Codex Crimson Slaughter



Codex Crimson Slaughter

he Terror Begins

The Crimson Slaughter seek to wash away their sins in a tide of blood. This collection allows you to join them now in the Long War to bring down the Imperium they once willingly served.

This collection includes: 1 copy of Crimson Slaughter: A Codex Supplement and 1 Helbrute.

The Helbrute is a plastic kit that is supplied unpainted and requires assembly - we recommend using Citadel Thin Plastic Glue and Citadel Paints.

$103.50 USD

Same price as buying separate. Why the hell haven't they figured out that even tossing a $5 discount on a bundle like this would actually move more product.

/same argument made with EVERy release...

Its a shame there is little options for the actual brute body.
All heavy brute lists will look pretty silly.

theyre is no 360 of the helbrute model. Is it a sign that they will stop doing those, or it's only a mistake ?

 streetsamurai wrote:
theyre is no 360 of the helbrute model. Is it a sign that they will stop doing those, or it's only a mistake ?

Not every new model gets the 360, do they? Also, they might not have posted it, yet.

 kronk wrote:




Same price as buying separate. Why the hell haven't they figured out that even tossing a $5 discount on a bundle like this would actually move more product.

/same argument made with EVERy release...

Really? I still wouldn't order from GW if it was only $5 cheaper, they'd have to match miniaturemarket.com or thewarstore.com on discount, or get close an ship to me the same Time they ship to the stores. Even then since there's a lackluster GW in my state I have to pay sales tax on top of ordering from them. If I order from Neal then I get the discount AND no taxes. Unfortunately (for my bank account) miniaturemarket is a mile from my house, so I can save shipping and get the discount, but lose money to taxes . I always have to calculate if I can wait a few days and order from Neal, or pick it up at MM and pay a little more from taxes.

In the latest WDW it states in regards to the Crimson Slaughter book that "there are a series of additions which alters Codex: Chaos Space Marines to give you a Crimson Slaughter warband. Some of the changes are more visible than others" but gives no details beyond Possessed as Troops.

If that means there's more than just that is anyone's guess.

Also the official line for them getting Possessed is that they were mutated pretty badly, and before they arrive milk curdles and the sky darkens, and other horrible things to foretell doom.

Anyone know if this weeks WD lets you know what's actually in the 'dex (rules-wise)??

First post updated

 bubber wrote:
Anyone know if this weeks WD lets you know what's actually in the 'dex (rules-wise)??

Nope. See my above comment. They allude to the usual (Planetstrike/Cities of Death strategems, Relics) and some vague comment about additional changes to make an army actual feel like Crimson Slaughter, but besides Possessed as troops there isn't anything else.

Anyone else think this codex supplement would have made alot sense as a wordbearer supplement.
Just look at the collection "slave to the voices"; its a bunch of posessed and a dark apostle.
Did they just copy paste wordbearer rules to a crimsome slaughterer fluff?
They hardly even bother to change the colour of the models

Just read this on the GW website:

Slaves to the Voices
Tormented by the faces of those they have killed, their minds are constantly assaulted by endless screams. Sleep is impossible, the voices are always whispering. Slaughter pays for a moments peace - but it is only a moment - then the butchery must begin again.

Crimson Slaughter: A codex supplement allows units of possessed to be counted as troops choices. Slaves to the voices is a collection of miniatures that form an army of the most tormented and deranged souls that ever graced the battlefield.

This collection includes: 4 boxes of 5 Chaos Possessed, 1 Dark Apostle, 1 Helbrute and 2 Chaos Rhinos.

100% confirmation then.

(http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod2440006a)


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Nope. See my above comment. They allude to the usual (Planetstrike/Cities of Death strategems, Relics) and some vague comment about additional changes to make an army actual feel like Crimson Slaughter, but besides Possessed as troops there isn't anything else.

Thanks Wayne

 bubber wrote:
Just read this on the GW website:

Slaves to the Voices
Tormented by the faces of those they have killed, their minds are constantly assaulted by endless screams. Sleep is impossible, the voices are always whispering. Slaughter pays for a moments peace - but it is only a moment - then the butchery must begin again.

Crimson Slaughter: A codex supplement allows units of possessed to be counted as troops choices. Slaves to the voices is a collection of miniatures that form an army of the most tormented and deranged souls that ever graced the battlefield.

This collection includes: 4 boxes of 5 Chaos Possessed, 1 Dark Apostle, 1 Helbrute and 2 Chaos Rhinos.

100% confirmation then.

(http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod2440006a)


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Nope. See my above comment. They allude to the usual (Planetstrike/Cities of Death strategems, Relics) and some vague comment about additional changes to make an army actual feel like Crimson Slaughter, but besides Possessed as troops there isn't anything else.

Thanks Wayne

And they still haven't learned that when you offer a bundle deal, you usually don't offer it at the same price as buying everything individually. Jebus...

HB sprue pics:






Shame it comes with a bog-standard base rather than a new chaosy one.

I like that auto cannon!

WayneTheGame wrote:

And they still haven't learned that when you offer a bundle deal, you usually don't offer it at the same price as buying everything individually. Jebus...

But they save you all those costly mouse clicks!

Think of those poor people in parts of the world where they ration their mouse clicks and seconds!

Also, as mentioned ages ago, no god-specific add-ons & no Slaanesh weapon options like the FW sonic blaster (link) or blastmaster (link)

Shame :(


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I like the plasma cannon myself. Can't tell if these would fit a standard dreadnought chassis.
I already have 4 'hellbrutes' - 1x DV, 2x FW Nurgle & 1x FW Slaanesh (which I got for free as FW sent my Mum someone else's order one Christmas - btw she told FW but they said to keep it & they'd re-send the order to the right address!).
So don't really need one of these.

Anyone reckon FW will make god-specific add-ons?


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Just noticed that there's only 1 front chest plate - SM ones get loads of options here with different chest plates + add-on bits to make them even more variable.
Not vary chaotic if you decide to field more than one (but then again who would?)

Well gak, I was going to buy the old CSM battleforce as it had everything I wanted to start out CSM. Guess I'll have to look for it somewhere else before stock runs out.

Also, anyone have pics of the Raptors from the new battleforce from anywhere? Do they come with warp talon bits/option or are they just Raptors?

They'll have the warp talon bits mixed in them, unless GW has hired monkeys to cut them out of the sprues.

After seeing the bits I might get one....I might not

(Shifts eyes side to side)

Anybody else notice GW is touting that there's a Thunder Hammer included on the sprue? That isn't even an option for a Helbrute in their codex, is it?

 alienvalentine wrote:
Anybody else notice GW is touting that there's a Thunder Hammer included on the sprue? That isn't even an option for a Helbrute in their codex, is it?

Umm, yes it is...

 Excessus wrote:

 alienvalentine wrote:
Anybody else notice GW is touting that there's a Thunder Hammer included on the sprue? That isn't even an option for a Helbrute in their codex, is it?

Umm, yes it is...

That's odd, I didn't think Chaos anything had access to the thunder hammer...

Only the helbrute has that option

That’s one option laden kit for the helbrute. Is it missing anything?

Not that I have much to complain about as a codex marine player, but I’d love to have all my dread options in the kit. Would be cool if you heretics got everything you need.

I think I'll pick up one of these after seeing the sprue pics (thanks bubber for posting them!) It looks like something that will be easy to convert, so I can keep the elements I like while changing the ones I don't.

-C6

 alienvalentine wrote:
Anybody else notice GW is touting that there's a Thunder Hammer included on the sprue? That isn't even an option for a Helbrute in their codex, is it?

Funny that it is for the Hell brute, but not for the troops... One would suggest it would be for both as well, not to mention that some how they retained power weapons and no thunder..

It looks light magnetising the weapon options is going to be problematic with the wrinkly joints between the weapon joint to upper arm piece. If you're planning to go down this route you might need to raid the bits market for more upper arm pieces.