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2014/03/16 16:42:53
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
gigasnail wrote: codex wasn't bad at all. there is some potential with CSM or BL allies having multiple choppy lords on a variety of platforms. dunno that possessed are going to be a real thing, they're still 26 points each. if they moved as beasts by default, it'd be much more of a legit unit. but it's not totally hopeless. they're either going to be beasts and ignore terrain, able to leapfrog behind/into good cover, have shrouded, or have a 3++. at their cost, sure wish they had grenades too.
divination on a lvl 3 sorcerer is great, too.
This pretty much sums up the whole thread, there is potential, just depends on your style of play and how you use your strengths and weaknesses to their advantage.
2014/03/17 02:01:17
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
Am I the only one who is surprised that the Crimson Slaughter codex supplement is already availabe in hardback instead of being released digitally and then us having to wait 2 months or so?
Ravenous D wrote: 40K is like a beloved grandparent that is slowly falling into dementia and the rest of the family is in denial about how bad it is.
squidhills wrote: GW is scared of girls. Why do you think they have so much trouble sculpting attractive female models? Because girls have cooties and the staff at GW don't like looking at them for too long because it makes them feel funny in their naughty place.
2014/03/17 02:12:30
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
I just find it facetious that some of the reboxes are being "touted" as new releases when it is in fact the same kit. Weekly releases sound good, but when it's the same stuff... oh I give up.
GamesWorkshop wrote: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
2014/03/17 02:19:58
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
Gives them a little more freedom to FORGE THE NARRATIVE.
I hope for a Purge supplement for Nurgle, Flawless Host supplement for Slaanesh, the Scourged for Tzeentch, and. Khorne gets the Skulltakers. Throw in the Steel Brethren and Night Stalkers and there are your" legion" rules.
Alpha Legion have to use some Loyalist book.
Legions are Dead! (Except for the Black)
2014/03/17 04:24:21
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
WarOne wrote: They should of named this Codex: Word Bearers.
I would of be on this like flies on a Plaguebearer.
Codex: Allied Divination Sorcerer
GFT.
That's the only interesting thing in the entire codex for me. It really isn't worth the money in my opinion.
So, a small warband of wanna-be's get a hard cover codex but SOB is still digital only? WTF?
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2014/03/17 04:29:54
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
Gives them a little more freedom to FORGE THE NARRATIVE.
I hope for a Purge supplement for Nurgle, Flawless Host supplement for Slaanesh, the Scourged for Tzeentch, and. Khorne gets the Skulltakers. Throw in the Steel Brethren and Night Stalkers and there are your" legion" rules.
Alpha Legion have to use some Loyalist book.
Legions are Dead! (Except for the Black)
Does the fluff on the Crimson Slaughter give a good reason as to why they are possessed heavy? I was thinking when this first was announced that it seemed a bit off to me and would have been better suited to the likes of the Beasts of Annihilation, if they weren't doing Word Bearers.
I hope for the same thing in regards to other supplements.
No pity, no remorse, no shoes
2014/03/17 10:50:55
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
Gives them a little more freedom to FORGE THE NARRATIVE.
I hope for a Purge supplement for Nurgle, Flawless Host supplement for Slaanesh, the Scourged for Tzeentch, and. Khorne gets the Skulltakers. Throw in the Steel Brethren and Night Stalkers and there are your" legion" rules.
Alpha Legion have to use some Loyalist book.
Legions are Dead! (Except for the Black)
Does the fluff on the Crimson Slaughter give a good reason as to why they are possessed heavy? I was thinking when this first was announced that it seemed a bit off to me and would have been better suited to the likes of the Beasts of Annihilation, if they weren't doing Word Bearers.
I hope for the same thing in regards to other supplements.
It's the ghosts manifesting. It makes a reference to the fact they'll be possessed and mutate and then after the slaughter return mostly to normal. Some of it is actual warp mutations, like their space hulk turned fortress has mutant monsters in the lower levels that they use to test recruits.
- Wayne
Formerly WayneTheGame
2014/03/17 12:18:24
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
Musashi363 wrote: Legions are dead!.....except for Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, partially Death Guard, possibly Alpha Legion and the afore mentioned Black Legion.
The formal organization of Legions are... With many splintered into smaller warbands, but those warbands are described as 100 or so marines and those groups of a distinct lineage are what people want to play. I don't think anyone is saying they want to play a proper legion unless they're talking about FW's HH era setting.
2014/03/17 22:22:42
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
Slayer le boucher wrote: If those rumors about a new plastic Lord come to fruititions i hope it will look as badass as this;
Really, nothing says more" i"m gonna rip your spine out your chest and suck your soul out" then this model, thats how Chaos should be...
Also reading the CS fluff, i'm dissapointes that there is no swirling spirits bits in the form of some convertion pack available from GW...
Yeah, nothing says chaos as much as a supermodel walking down the catwalk, showing off her long legs, flowing hair and thin waist! Hahaha!
"Deception is the point. Any fool can calculate strength. That one has been doing it from the moment he saw us. Now, he has to calculate what he can't see. And fear what he doesn't know."
2014/03/18 04:06:54
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
That's a great mini, the look isn't right for Chaos but the attitude certainly is. Oh, and GW, that's what a female is supposed to look like, not a male in drag. Just FYI.
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2014/03/18 06:10:14
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
Enjoy the new goodies. There's some potential nastiness here.
USR's
Harbingers of the Tormented- All Crimson Slaughter models have Fear
Slaves to the Voices- Possessed are troops and roll on the following table for their mutations every turn (instead of the one in the CSM book)
1- Shrouded
2- Unit type becomes Beasts
3- Invuln save goes from 5+ to 3+ and they gain Rending.
Draznicht's Ravagers- Upgrade one unit of Chosen to Draznicht's Ravagers for 10-ish points. Unit's Champion (who is Draznicht- the model from the DV set with the power maul) gains preferred enemy. if Draznicht is slain you lose the rule.
Renegades of the Dark Millenium- Only cult marines, minus Thousand sons, can take VotLW.
Relics of the Crimson Slaughter- Characters from the Crimson Slaughter detachment can only take their relics, not stuff from the CSM book.
Allies- Can ally with CSM as battle brothers. Doesn't say about anything else.
Warlord Traits
1- Warlord and units he joins have Hatred. This becomes infinite hatred against DA.
2- All enemy units within 12" have -1 Ld and -2 for any fear tests they have to make.
3- Has Rage and Furious Charge. Warlord and any unit he joins must charge enemy units if they are within 12" at the beginning of the shooting phase and cannot shoot.
4- Warlord and any unit he joins have Crusader
5- Enemy models in base of the warlord take d6 s3 ap - hits at Initiative 10 during CC 6- Gains shrouded.
Relics
Crozius of the Dark Covenant (30-ish)- S+2 Ap4 Melee concussive warp-medium (all friendly units within 6" of the bearer have zealot) Power maul.
Blade of the Relentless (30-ish)- S user Ap3 Melee, Soul siphon (More models, yes models, you kill the different benefits: 1- +1 S, 3+ AP2, 5+ +1 S, 10+ Instant Death)
The Slaughterer's Horns- (15-ish) Gains furious charge, hammer of wrath, and rage
Balestar of Mannon (25-ish) Sorceror only. Sorceror may roll on Divination for powers and reroll failed psychic tests. However the sorceror and any unit he joins can only Deny the Witch on a 6+.
Demonheart- (30-ish) May not be taken by a Demon Prince. Bearer has a 2+ Armor save and IWND.
Prophet of the Voices (30-ish) Bearer becomes a demon, gains fearless and fleet. Now has to roll on the Slave to the Voices table every turn and can only join Possessed units.
Idk if anyone else stated this but I feel I am not the only one with our hopes crushed with the chaos releases. But I am curious about the helbrute dataslate.
2014/03/18 22:28:58
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
I'm disappointed, but not crushed. The new supplement has given us some new tools to work with. Granted, I wished they had given us legion tactics or some new kits (ie Havocs, Chosen), but I'm oddly optimistic for the Helbrute dataslates. Being able to deep strike a group of Helbrutes could be good, one the other data slates mentioned a group of Helbrutes getting a 5+ invuln save. (From the Digital Edition Facebook page)
Musashi363 wrote: Legions are dead!.....except for Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, partially Death Guard, possibly Alpha Legion and the afore mentioned Black Legion.
So... 5 out of 9, which is more than 50% are still there and kicking imperial hindquarters, even by your count.
World Eaters may have splintered as a legion, but the warbands are probably kind of similar - blood for the blood god and all.
Night Lords are afair almost wiped out, true enough.
Emperors children... help me out here someone?
And 1k sons were never that many but what remains is mostly a coherent force, sitting around Magnus and singing "Dust in the wind".
That adds at least another two quite homogeneous Legions, thus 7 of 9. I think that actually does merit them some continuing fanbase...
Waaagh an' a 'alf
1500 Pts WIP
2014/03/18 23:20:57
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up
Musashi363 wrote: Legions are dead!.....except for Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, partially Death Guard, possibly Alpha Legion and the afore mentioned Black Legion.
So... 5 out of 9, which is more than 50% are still there and kicking imperial hindquarters, even by your count.
World Eaters may have splintered as a legion, but the warbands are probably kind of similar - blood for the blood god and all.
Night Lords are afair almost wiped out, true enough.
Emperors children... help me out here someone?
And 1k sons were never that many but what remains is mostly a coherent force, sitting around Magnus and singing "Dust in the wind".
That adds at least another two quite homogeneous Legions, thus 7 of 9. I think that actually does merit them some continuing fanbase...
He was being sarcastic. He's a strong believer in the old Legions.
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