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 Excessus wrote:

 SkaerKrow wrote:
I don't really care about how crap the models are (though wow are they crap). Just give me new rules and let me get to kitbashing/scratch-building.

How can you even see anything well enough to call them crap from those pictures?

Because I don't need to see fine detail when the overall shape of the model is so fundamentally flawed? Because I've been doing this long enough to know an eyesore when I see one? The Taurox model is garbage. It looks like a blinged out Tonka truck.

 Happygrunt wrote:
They new infantry are boss, I will DEFENITLRY pick up some to make some IG commanders/ vets.

They definitely fit well with the Imperial Knights and could easily be taken as PDF for a Knight House or something along those lines.

 Breotan wrote:

 Happygrunt wrote:
They new infantry are boss, I will DEFENITLRY pick up some to make some IG commanders/ vets.

They definitely fit well with the Imperial Knights and could easily be taken as PDF for a Knight House or something along those lines.

I was building a new "regiment" for my IG that were heavily influenced by the Helghast from killzone. Looks like it is time to add to the project.

drbored wrote:
Wait, how do we have this, and yet no leaks of the rumored Chaos Chosen?

Crap. Could those rumors have been totally off? This WD says the products will be available for pre-order on the 29th.

So.. We got this weekend of the 7th with the Helbrute pre-orders...
Then next weekend will be the 15th, presumably with Chosen preorders...
Then after that is the 22nd, which I suspect would be Astra Miltarum preorders...
And finally should be the 29th, which are the Militarum Tempestus pre-orders...

Right? That should be how it goes... right?

It's very simple: we have this and don't have Chosen because nobody wants this and everybody wants Chosen.

-C6

 catharsix wrote:

drbored wrote:
Wait, how do we have this, and yet no leaks of the rumored Chaos Chosen?

Crap. Could those rumors have been totally off? This WD says the products will be available for pre-order on the 29th.

So.. We got this weekend of the 7th with the Helbrute pre-orders...
Then next weekend will be the 15th, presumably with Chosen preorders...
Then after that is the 22nd, which I suspect would be Astra Miltarum preorders...
And finally should be the 29th, which are the Militarum Tempestus pre-orders...

Right? That should be how it goes... right?

It's very simple: we have this and don't have Chosen because nobody wants this and everybody wants Chosen.

-C6

Speak for yourself. I couldn't give a rat's ass about Chosen, and I've been anticipating new Guard stuff for a long while now.

I have not played or collected anything 40k in over 4 years.After playing off and on since first edition.I really like the models about frigin time to see some plastic Stormies.But What this sounds like to me is a Arbites Style Force or A Inquistion Style troopers.I wonder if in the Codex if they get any of the old Forgeworld vehilces.Because that Truk would fit in real well with Inquistion or Arbites.Ogres with Riot Shields and Clubs sounds alittle like Arbites to me.So i hope this is a Splash release overall and not a General release for Guard.Because i think that truk would kinda stink in overall Meatgrind/Tank war that 40k has turned into.GIve me something more sturdy.

but i will stick with a Splash release for a Supplement Codex and probably some BL Novels to go with,But looking at the Art.They appear to be some type of Inq/Arbites Stlye and the Ogeryns would fit in with this style of playing.Urban Assault troops.MAybe a New Guard Regiment?This would not be the first time GW has done this,TAnith,Schaffers,TAnith,Mordian Etc. for examples.but What get me are the Rites inscripted on the one troopers forehead!All we needed was for them to HAve Uriah with them.I would be kool if we got some new Arbite stuff to go with them Cyber MAstiffs and Ogres CC = OWWW or something for Penal or Mitia models from GW..I played Inq. Stormies for years.

I love the Taurox. Like all the best 40K vehicles, it screams WW2-era to me. It seems heavily inspired by the American half-tracks of that era. M31A etc.

I'm really excited by what i'm seeing here... in part because my old school beret stormtroopers will finally get some reinforcements!

The Crippler wrote:
I'm really excited by what i'm seeing here... in part because my old school beret stormtroopers will finally get some reinforcements!

Same here! They were getting lonely all by themselves...

Yep, it seems like they were definitely going to real vehicles for inspiration on that vehicle. I like it, although it will be interesting to see what role it fills.

Also if that is a true stormtrooper army book.....I might be broke building an allied detachment. That would be PERFECT allies for my deathwatch.

Bitch about allies all you want but it is allowing me to finally build and play the fluffy army I have always wanted.

Inquisitor
Deathwatch marines
allied inquisition storm troopers.

The Crippler wrote:
I love the Taurox. Like all the best 40K vehicles, it screams WW2-era to me. It seems heavily inspired by the American half-tracks of that era. M31A etc.

More like a Snow Cat got a Tucker Combat Car drunk at a bar one night long ago...

The Crippler wrote:
I love the Taurox. Like all the best 40K vehicles, it screams WW2-era to me. It seems heavily inspired by the American half-tracks of that era. M31A etc.

Except that it looks nothing like a half-track.

Which would be acceptable if it did.

It looks like a slowed snow-cat that someone put the treads on upside down.

Is it just me or does that transport look like it has a twin linked punisher cannon on it? Sorry if someone else has noticed this already.

 Breotan wrote:

The Crippler wrote:
I love the Taurox. Like all the best 40K vehicles, it screams WW2-era to me. It seems heavily inspired by the American half-tracks of that era. M31A etc.

More like a Snow Cat got a Tucker Combat Car drunk at a bar one night long ago...

OMG. There really is such a thing as an Armored Tucker Sno-Cat.

 Leth wrote:
Yep, it seems like they were definitely going to real vehicles for inspiration on that vehicle.

Yet another real-world design reference for the Taurox, the Blackwater Grizzly.

 Breotan wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

The Crippler wrote:
I love the Taurox. Like all the best 40K vehicles, it screams WW2-era to me. It seems heavily inspired by the American half-tracks of that era. M31A etc.

More like a Snow Cat got a Tucker Combat Car drunk at a bar one night long ago...

OMG. There really is such a thing as an Armored Tucker Sno-Cat.

Spoiler:

Again, a real world vehicle that both looks better, AND looks more like it fits in with the rest of the IG line.


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I don't understand why people are expecting this to be more heavily armored than the Chimera, though.

MRAPs may be pretty tough, but they aren't as robust as a Bradley, for example.

 AtoMaki wrote:
Also, the Taurox is a MRAP with 40k bling.

Sure, but it's not a good MRAP with 40k bling.

If I was designing the Taurox as an Ogryn delivery system, I'd start off by replacing the tracks with something lower to the ground, and then had the entire side panel of the troop compartment fold down like the tailgates on a ute. Ogryns walk up the ramp, sit down, and the ramps lift up to shield them. When they get where they're going the Taurox rams its way into the enemy ranks, drops the ramps to crush a few more, and then the Ogryn charge off the assault ramps to either side of the vehicle.

New snow cats for thread heads meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Are they Inqusition goons? Are they space cops? or are they another organization intended to counterbalance the Inquisition and the Church? (The latter has a band of warrior girls in power armor as its own military power)

Hope this stuff is just a rumor because it looks horrible!


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Why bother wearing that horrible bulky armor, then wear a beret? LMAO!!! I'll bet they're wearing sandals on their feet...

 Kelly502 wrote:
Hope this stuff is just a rumor because it looks horrible!

Seriously, you are in denial if you think this is just a rumour anymore...

 Kelly502 wrote:
Why bother wearing that horrible bulky armor, then wear a beret? LMAO!!! I'll bet they're wearing sandals on their feet...

Yeah, and why wear terminator armour without a helmet...welcome to 40k, you must be new...

The Scions (?) are impressive and much to my liking. If I only had founds to spare, I am quite certain I could put Infinity on hold for a while.

 Excessus wrote:

 Kelly502 wrote:
Hope this stuff is just a rumor because it looks horrible!

Seriously, you are in denial if you think this is just a rumour anymore...

 Kelly502 wrote:
Why bother wearing that horrible bulky armor, then wear a beret? LMAO!!! I'll bet they're wearing sandals on their feet...

Yeah, and why wear terminator armour without a helmet...welcome to 40k, you must be new...

None of my Terminators go without wearing their helmets. I try not to field stupid troops.

Tank looks silly but storm troopers look great!

I bet the storm troopers can take a mission to give them objective secured USR.

 Kelly502 wrote:
Hope this stuff is just a rumor because it looks horrible!


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Why bother wearing that horrible bulky armor, then wear a beret? LMAO!!! I'll bet they're wearing sandals on their feet...

it makes them looks like a commando or the 1st / 2nd edition Stormtroops.
Renaissance style armor looks good, but it doesn't fit with 21st century beret, it fits with either tricorne, bicorne, or skull helmets (hopefully there will be two sets of head to swaps).

so they got the separate organizations and not belong to IG. but are these the return of Templars Fraternits thing.. a band of all-male warrior priests owned by The Church (Before Sebastian Thor disbanded them shortly after the cirisis)

Glad I'm not playing 40k any more. Not sure what GW was thinking with that vehicle design. Track guards?! What purpose do track guards serve here? What's with the iconography? Why is the turret right above the driver area AND right next to the door? It's like a really bad episode of Pimp My Ride.

And the new Stormtrooper/Scion models.... Far cry from the Kasrkin sculpts. Too much torso and shoulder armor, nothing on their legs....

Ugh. Maybe the actual IG stuff might not be such an eye sore.

~iPaint

 AlexHolker wrote:


If I was designing the Taurox as an Ogryn delivery system, I'd start off by replacing the tracks with something lower to the ground, and then had the entire side panel of the troop compartment fold down like the tailgates on a ute. Ogryns walk up the ramp, sit down, and the ramps lift up to shield them. When they get where they're going the Taurox rams its way into the enemy ranks, drops the ramps to crush a few more, and then the Ogryn charge off the assault ramps to either side of the vehicle.

I had a similar train of thought but figured why would Ogryn's need ramps to shield them. Just turn the back end of the Taurox into a flatbed, lower the vehicle, throw on some tires instead of tracks and you'd have an Ogryn El Camino delivery system.

The Scions don't look that bad but as far as the current Taurox goes I'll be keeping to my Chimera's and save myself some cash.

That new tank looks kinda like a ork tank lol

i thought the plan of these releases would be to release sweet looking models, then bomb you with OK rules. I think their plan backfires when they release good awful models and what i assume will be horrific rules as well. This thing better be the IG riptide!

shade1313 wrote:

None of my Terminators go without wearing their helmets. I try not to field stupid troops.

If you look at the box cover, there are helmeted heads which look like the Kasrkin/standard Cadian helmets.

Can't tell if they have respirators covering the lower half of their head or not.

 generalchaos34 wrote:
i thought the plan of these releases would be to release sweet looking models, then bomb you with OK rules. I think their plan backfires when they release good awful models and what i assume will be horrific rules as well. This thing better be the IG riptide!

Maybe they're going the hell turkey route with crappy model but good rules instead...

 Kanluwen wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

None of my Terminators go without wearing their helmets. I try not to field stupid troops.

If you look at the box cover, there are helmeted heads which look like the Kasrkin/standard Cadian helmets.

Nor my IG goes to war without ballistic helmets. artillery shrapnels can kill troops without these basic protections.
That's the helmets i'm talking about! the book cover version of the helmet looks alot like 1st edition Imperal Army infantrymen.... i.e. Renaissances in space