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 Paradigm wrote:
At this point, I wish they had given IG a proper armoured car, intended as a fast, light combat unit, heavier than a Tauros and lighter than a Hellhound. Basically, similar to Sentinels in role, but faster and wheeled.

Instead, we get something that's half-APC-half-armoured-car, which just makes no sense.

Too true.

Someone at Lenton saw MRAPs and other vehicles developed for COIN operations and the like and added the usual excess.

Standard Guard get the Chimera - a decent troop carrier - utilitarian, armored, decent silhouette, half decent weapon.

The elite units of the guard (at the forefront of the fiercest fighting) now drive to the forefront of battle in an ornamented, tall and high sided truck. (I can imagine MFA shenanigans with this, if it proves to decent in its role). at least, that's what it looks like to me.

Target priority anyone?

Looked around on the web and came across this one:



I think you will agree that they took a lot of inspiration from this armored car. It´s the german E-V/4 Panzerkraftwagen Ehrhardt from WW1.

I really don't like the look of that armoured car thing, and, if i'm honest, i'm not blown away by that Scion Squad either. Shame.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:

It was just a thought. I find it weird that the Command Squad isnt a Militarum Tempestus _Scion_ Command squad, but they probably ran out os space on the box or their pig-latin consultant had a stroke in the middle of the project.

It's also possible that the Command Squad is not commanded by a "Scion", but rather someone who was brought into the Schola Progenium based upon their merit or something of that nature and groomed to be an officer.

The officer in charge has a black greatcoat draped across his shoulders.

 BrookM wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:

It was just a thought. I find it weird that the Command Squad isnt a Militarum Tempestus _Scion_ Command squad, but they probably ran out os space on the box or their pig-latin consultant had a stroke in the middle of the project.

It's also possible that the Command Squad is not commanded by a "Scion", but rather someone who was brought into the Schola Progenium based upon their merit or something of that nature and groomed to be an officer.

The officer in charge has a black greatcoat draped across his shoulders.

They know we want greatcoats, they tease us with greatcoats, and yet they refuse to give it to us!

 generalchaos34 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:

It was just a thought. I find it weird that the Command Squad isnt a Militarum Tempestus _Scion_ Command squad, but they probably ran out os space on the box or their pig-latin consultant had a stroke in the middle of the project.

It's also possible that the Command Squad is not commanded by a "Scion", but rather someone who was brought into the Schola Progenium based upon their merit or something of that nature and groomed to be an officer.

The officer in charge has a black greatcoat draped across his shoulders.

They know we want greatcoats, they tease us with greatcoats, and yet they refuse to give it to us!

But that model has a greatcoat

Am I really the only person that likes both those kits?

I suppose it makes sense. I've always hated the IG default kits for being so boring and these are deviant enough from the IG norm that I would find them appealing while a regular IG player who wants their 1940s war in their 41st Millenium would not.

 SRSFACE wrote:
Am I really the only person that likes both those kits?

I suppose it makes sense. I've always hated the IG default kits for being so boring and these are deviant enough from the IG norm that I would find them appealing while a regular IG player who wants their 1940s war in their 41st Millenium would not.

That's ok. I like the kits too. The truck is a bit squat, but I can see where they are coming from.

I actually quite like the new models. The beret guard are based on some of the older stormtrooper art and it is nice to have an APC that is not a mobile box. The tracks however...

 tarnish wrote:
Looked around on the web and came across this one:



I think you will agree that they took a lot of inspiration from this armored car. It´s the german E-V/4 Panzerkraftwagen Ehrhardt from WW1.

I believe I have found a contender. A 1930's locally made Chinese armored car. Apparently when Japan invaded, a bunch of Chinese big wigs organized a bunch of home guard companies. They then had dozens of armoured cars whipped together in the local factories, improvised from whatever was available. I think they actually ended up designing better vehicles than GW in 2014..

That transport looks, just awful, so so bad. I can't even see a way to convert it into something that looks alright...

I think I might get back into 40k now. First old style knights, and now THESE?????

GW really has a love hate relationship with everyone right now.

 tarnish wrote:
Looked around on the web and came across this one:

Spoiler:

I think you will agree that they took a lot of inspiration from this armored car. It´s the german E-V/4 Panzerkraftwagen Ehrhardt from WW1.

Hey! A Krieg version.

 Polonius wrote:
I'm guessing that the Stormtrooper Codex is meant to allow interfaction alliances, so you can add stormtroopers to IG (or any other imperial army).

I'm guessing that the Stormtrooper Codex is meant to allow making a horde army out of 5-man-35$-boxes

Also you will find that (as said before) this TMNT armoured truck comes VERY close to the GW model, including the motor exhaust feed into the driver section:

I'm curious how they are going to justify the name change fluff-wise.

Either they will do what they always do and retcon everything, or write some bit of fluff about a Imperial Bureaucrat deciding to make everything High Gothic for reasons.

It won't be justified, it'll just be.

The Imperial books seem to be using High Gothic for their titles. It shouldn't take away the original names of the organisations that we know and love.

Hopefully they won't scrap the term IG from the book altogether, not that they will ever be able to get rid of it even if they did.

Who knew the chapter house case had such ramifications.

Not sure if the fluff writers have the balls to blame a crazy higher up for the name change

 loki old fart wrote:
Who knew the chapter house case had such ramifications.

It coincided with everyone at GW suffering traumatic unrelated head injuries, so we're lucky that 40k still takes place in space.

Anybody able to recommend a decent 28mm mrap?

 loki old fart wrote:
Who knew the chapter house case had such ramifications.

The LOLs will come when CHS releases a conversion kit to make the Taurox not look like complete crap.

 SRSFACE wrote:
Am I really the only person that likes both those kits?.

Given that you're about the sixth person to ask that question in this thread, probably not.

High Lord of the Administratum - Tradius Markius - decreed the name change, and personally put his offical seal, ™, after everything they do.

Hmm not keen on that armoured vehicle at all............

Some of the infantry are good

I like the scions. They have a cool pmc/green beret vibe. The truck is horrible though

Ah, militarum tempestus is a new codex indeed! It has several entries, scions, the new truck, the ogryns, etc... It allows you to make an Arbites force, as well as a special forces contingent to guard armies!

Looky Likey wrote:
Anybody able to recommend a decent 28mm mrap?

Pick your poison

http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/antenocitis/g-o-t-vehicles-1.html

Beware these tend to be LRBT-sized or bigger. I wouldn't rush to buy a proxy until we know the real size of that thing (...and something tells me it's not really that big).

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Ah, militarum tempestus is a new codex indeed! It has several entries, scions, the new truck, the ogryns, etc... It allows you to make an Arbites force, as well as a special forces contingent to guard armies!

Do you have a source or is this wishlisting?

 prowla wrote:

 tarnish wrote:
Looked around on the web and came across this one:

Spoiler:

I think you will agree that they took a lot of inspiration from this armored car. It´s the german E-V/4 Panzerkraftwagen Ehrhardt from WW1.

I believe I have found a contender. A 1930's locally made Chinese armored car. Apparently when Japan invaded, a bunch of Chinese big wigs organized a bunch of home guard companies. They then had dozens of armoured cars whipped together in the local factories, improvised from whatever was available. I think they actually ended up designing better vehicles than GW in 2014..

That looks a lot like the model allright, except you can see how even the chinese knew that angled armor is a good thing, yet the imperium never seemed to learn this....