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Let's not start the speculating/wishlisting. It just clogs the thread.

 prowla wrote:
I just had a terrible notion.. Will the Astra Militarum codex be referred as AsMi, hence the IG players as AsMites?

It will be the AssMill, in whose cold careless machinery millions of soldiers are grinded...

 Leth wrote:
I cant wait to see what the stormtrooper army looks like. It will be great to take them as additional dudes in my inquisition army.

Pfft!

I had a Storm Trooper army before it was cool.

*adjusts fake over-sized glasses, goes back to his Starbucks Coffee and iPad*

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Leth wrote:
I cant wait to see what the stormtrooper army looks like. It will be great to take them as additional dudes in my inquisition army.

Pfft!

I had a Storm Trooper army before it was cool.

*adjusts fake over-sized glasses, goes back to his Starbucks Coffee and iPad*

Starbucks? If your coffee isn't pooped out by jungle creatures you aren't Hipster enough!

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
Codex will go up the evening of 04/04/14 for pre order (GMT) and will be on sale 12/04/14.

I have no source to confirm this, but I'd bet my house on it.

Disclaimer: Azreal13 does not own a house, and therefore cannot be obligated to bet it in anything.

Which codex? Tamponus? Surely not Astra Milivanilly one... BTW, there are several new pre-orders already added to GW site as of today.... Are you saying there will be even MORE added?

I'm sorry, I thought I was being clear, I failed to factor nervous overexcitement!

We already know "Codex" Stormtroopers goes on order the week previous, we have it in black and white. We also know that the last proper army update under the new system (Dwarves) launched the book proper in the second week's wave.

It's all simple extrapolation, but I have every confidence this will pan out.

The pic says it all from original 1st page post. BTW, AT is not AM. AM will come later in April... AT is a supplement/allies codex like Imperial Knights codex...

Unless you've failed to notice I'm British and write dates the proper way around, I don't see how that contradicts anything I've written?

 Leth wrote:
I cant wait to see what the stormtrooper army looks like. It will be great to take them as additional dudes in my inquisition army.

So much fun with allies and all these supplements, I can make so many different armies that are reasonably functional while also fitting the fluff.

I hope the Stormtrooper models look cooler than the Scion models.

I tried making the inquisition warbands into stormtroopers but it's just so overcosted and underpowered getting a BS 3 warrior with carapace and hot-shot. Also is there a reason they are releasing this supplement and models before the IG/AM codex? Chaos Space Marines -> Crimson Slaughter / Tau -> Farsight / Eldar -> Iyanden / Tyranids -> dataslates / Space marines -> Sentinels of Terra and Clan Raukaan (if you look at the GW webpage it states they have new warlord trains, who doesn't like trains right?)

Why are they breaking the mold with IG/AM? Sure you get people that are feining for IG so bad they'll grab the Tempestus Scions but you also will have people saving their money for IG/AM and not get it and then you get all the reviews and find they suck and GW loses money. What do you guys think?

edit:saw Azreal13's post, guess thats why.

3 of the 4 metal Ogryn models that were listed on GW's site up until today are now gone, as is Nork Deddog. I guess if anyone wants some of the current stormtroopers this might be a good time to snap them up.

 ashcroft wrote:
3 of the 4 metal Ogryn models that were listed on GW's site up until today are now gone, as is Nork Deddog. I guess if anyone wants some of the current stormtroopers this might be a good time to snap them up.

The non-Kraskin Storm Trooper special weapons are off the US GW site. Ugh. I still needed some melta and plasma troopers.

Still up for the US (orgyns), at least for me.

Hydra is gone though

 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Still up for the US (orgyns), at least for me.

Hydra is gone though

There's a very good reason why the Hydra isn't on the webstore anymore. Mostly because it was never there.

 Ascalam wrote:
Or Asmili -

You will be asmili-ated

Ok, so my sense of humour needs more caffiene..

Perhaps regular guard will become known as Mili Vanili...

Ahaahha! Ok, that one made me laugh.

timd wrote:

 Ascalam wrote:
Or Asmili -

You will be asmili-ated

Ok, so my sense of humour needs more caffiene..

Perhaps regular guard will become known as Mili Vanili...

Exalted!!!

Classic sir. Classic. I tip my giant furry hat to you.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

timd wrote:

 Ascalam wrote:
Or Asmili -

You will be asmili-ated

Ok, so my sense of humour needs more caffiene..

Perhaps regular guard will become known as Mili Vanili...

Appologies in advance

Would that make Rough Riders Filli-Vanilli's

Mili Vanili it is.


Stillllllllllllllllll no rules leaks?!?!?

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Mili Vanili it is.


Stillllllllllllllllll no rules leaks?!?!?

Why do we need rules leaks? I am sooooooo excited with the new codex that went ahead and rearranged my IG to be able to use the DKoK Assault Brigade list. Now I'm holding my breath, anxious to see how GW scre... improves the Astra-I-don't-carus next month.

M.

 Azazelx wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Las wrote:
I don't understand the strong stance against treadcloths.

Neither do I. They look like something designed from a practical stand point - the Ogryn needed some sort of flexible ablative armour, and the Guard have track links in abundance, so their armour was designed to hook up to a small length of easily-replaceable armour.

Quite a good idea in my mind, and something that the AdMech certainly would not have done.

Because it looks stupid, and the ethos is also stupid. If what you said was accurate, they'd be better off starting in the middle of the chest, and they may as well make their shoulderpads out of the stuff as well. Also, the weight of tank tracks.

Ogryns whom casually drags chimeras to wounded so they can get the med kit is not concerned by weight.

If ill ever get Ogryns ill remember that shoulder pads out of tank treads...

 Leth wrote:
I cant wait to see what the stormtrooper army looks like. .

Going by the model release we've seen so far, and the precedence set by the Knights codex, the codex will have a Command Squad, with the rest of the army made up of Stormtrooper Squads.

And 60 pages of fluff.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

The non-Kraskin Storm Trooper special weapons are off the US GW site. Ugh. I still needed some melta and plasma troopers.

Hmmm, still available within 24h here in Europe. Maybe try to change your defined country on GW's website.
Don't worry, they will still be findable on ebay for years.


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 insaniak wrote:

 Leth wrote:
I cant wait to see what the stormtrooper army looks like. .

Going by the model release we've seen so far, and the precedence set by the Knights codex, the codex will have a Command Squad, with the rest of the army made up of Stormtrooper Squads.

And 60 pages of fluff.

... riding in Taurox transports, along with valkyries. All of them lead by a lord commissar with splitable wolfguard-like commissar squad.


With its release date so close to IG regular book, maybe it will be a stand-alone codex, for those who like to ally them with space-nuns or inquisitors ?

 pretre wrote:
Let's not start the speculating/wishlisting. It just clogs the thread.

Your 65 pages too late.

Bishop F Gantry wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Las wrote:
I don't understand the strong stance against treadcloths.

Neither do I. They look like something designed from a practical stand point - the Ogryn needed some sort of flexible ablative armour, and the Guard have track links in abundance, so their armour was designed to hook up to a small length of easily-replaceable armour.

Quite a good idea in my mind, and something that the AdMech certainly would not have done.

Because it looks stupid, and the ethos is also stupid. If what you said was accurate, they'd be better off starting in the middle of the chest, and they may as well make their shoulderpads out of the stuff as well. Also, the weight of tank tracks.

Ogryns whom casually drags chimeras to wounded so they can get the med kit is not concerned by weight.

If ill ever get Ogryns ill remember that shoulder pads out of tank treads...

Corrosive ogryn urine and a fear if dark places is the reason why they need easily sourced, replaceable groin guards. That and drainage holes in the bottom of your chimera.

Post deleted. Dakka takes a very dim view of advocating copyright infringement. --Janthkin

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 tjnorwoo wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Putting platoon command squads in Salamanders, or using the old Salamander rules, replacing the squad with a command variant of the Salamander, would be an interesting choice.


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 tjnorwoo wrote:
Would it be over powered to have veterans intermix with regular infantry squads in a platoon? I mean in the same way Nids can customize their guys within their units. For instance, what if you could make a platoon with a variety of different squads: conscripts, infantry, veterans, all together in the same platoon. In the fluff theres always a mix in squads of veterans and newbies when regiments get replenished

Ah, rolling for shooting and assaults is going to be so much fun with all those coloured dice.

you already have to split the dice up to account for all the special weapons, whats a few more colored dice gonna hurt.

You don't see how having vets, regular, and conscripts all grouped together might not be confusing?

You know, three troop types who are virtually identical to the average player and who will almost always have the same kit?

Well veterans are getting a new plastic model so it wouldn't be quite so confusing. Although, I get it may be just a tad bit too convoluted. What about having mini platoons of veterans? that would support the idea that as a regiment became more battle hardened it dwindled in size. A smaller veteran blob squad would be a whole lot nicer than my current 50+ man blob squad I use to outflank with.

Venatus on Faeit 212 wrote:Was at GW and the staff let me take a look from far away of the next White dwarf issue 9.
I can confirm IG are on it with that new transport on the cover.

reader on faeit212 wrote:So I got my hands on this weeks White Dwarf and had a flick though it, when a comment on Paint Splatter is of interest.

Pg. 25 - "Next Week: Into the Tempest".

It's a vague clue, but it could be a hint to next week's paint splatter being about how to paint the Stormtroopers. This itself implies that the whole Militarium Tempestus book is still going ahead, and that the leak from a few weeks ago was indeed very real.

 insaniak wrote:

 Leth wrote:
I cant wait to see what the stormtrooper army looks like. .

Going by the model release we've seen so far, and the precedence set by the Knights codex, the codex will have a Command Squad, with the rest of the army made up of Stormtrooper Squads.

And 60 pages of fluff.

Most other books I would be mad if there was too much fluff, which there is. But IG have a lot of fluff to cover so that wouldn't upset me too much, (on the grounds that the book was longer and they don't nickel and dime us to death with every stupid suppliment they can think of.) I just hope the new codex is on par with Space Marines, I think they almost deserve that. I'm basically setting myself up for disapointment, that way when I'm not disappointed I'll be all the more pleased.

You could say that for most of the long established armies though.

The Eldar Craftworlds, for example, have a long and varied history too. Whereas my beloved Mordian Iron Guard up until the latest book came out, had about 3 short pieces of fluff written about them in the last 20 years. And only 1 was particularly memorable (The Demon Invasion).

 Compel wrote:
You could say that for most of the long established armies though.

The Eldar Craftworlds, for example, have a long and varied history too. Whereas my beloved Mordian Iron Guard up until the latest book came out, had about 3 short pieces of fluff written about them in the last 20 years. And only 1 was particularly memorable (The Demon Invasion).

I'm just about to finish Gav Thorpe's 13th Legion and theres a short part about a convict lieutenant who inadvertantly leads a platoon of young and freshly drafted Mordian boys to victory/safety when fighting against chaos rebels. Pretty awesome story, makes me hope they have some regiment doctrines for Mordians in the new codex. Then I would buy some third party Mordian resin models for sure. I have two leman Russ tanks that I plan on modeling after fluff of an untested Mordian armoured company.


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 generalchaos34 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, I was expecting some IG preorders to go up this week.

It's almost as though they don't want my money, sell me things dangit!

I agree, I'm starting to make stupid purchases that detract from my IG budget!


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 Bull0 wrote:

 Palindrome wrote:
As for the changes to veterans I dont mind the reduction of special weapons as long as there is far wider scope for variant basic equipment and doctrines. I would like to see the introduction of veteran platoons as well.

This is where these long-in-the-tooth threads get most frustrating, because (and this isn't an attack on you, Palindrome) it turns into commentary on speculation, but in order to confirm what you're reading is just speculation you have to read back through a load of speculation posts. I feel like there should be "speculate on N&R" threads that are separate from the actual N&R threads just so N&R can be a useful reference. Probably just my personal bugbear

It would be awesome if all unrelated and or unsubstantiated ideas could be off shooted into a complimentary thread, but there I go wishlisting again