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I made a Marbo for my Valhallan army out a "demolition man" last chancer, i guess he will just become "some guy" now

It would be a shame if Marbo were to be removed, but wait and see, wait and see.

How about we stop whinging about trivial stuff that was to be expected, never mind before its even been confirmed?

 Zweischneid wrote:
Basically confirmed when the Doom of Malan'tai went missing. How's that a rumor?

Here's a rumour for you. Next Dark Eldar Codex, Lady Malys, Duke Sliscus, etc.. will be missing.

Next Grey Knight Codex, Mordak will be missing...

The post-Chapterhouse purge continues

There are probably a few more SC in the (current) IG Codex, which will be cut due to a lack of a current model.

Firstly, it's a rumour because it's the first we've heard about it (), and secondly Marbo has a mini, unlike all the other ones you just listed.

 Apologist wrote:
I think it more likely Marbo will appear alongside Straken in a dedicated Codex Catachans.

I agree with this. When the Catachan Supplement appears, Straken and Marbo will be centre stage.

 PuddlePirate wrote:
is that a damn cutless?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/de87926bc6f2fac4d157c6f61c65d538/tumblr_n3hvo4K5fk1sct717o1_400.jpg

Wow. That's cool. But I can see GW moving away from WWII aesthetics: That commisar looks nothing like the badass space nazi-bolsheviks of the past, more like a XVIIIth Century nobleman.

 Peregrine wrote:
Sure, but that's a Valkyrie, not a Vendetta. The extra lascannons (in addition to the hull mount) on the Vendetta are powered by external batteries mounted on the guns themselves. There's no plausible reason that the extra guns would reduce transport capacity, it's purely a balance change.

(If it's happening at all.)

I can't see any external power supply for the hull mounted Vendetta TL Lascannon. There's external supplies for the wing mounted ones, can't see a power source for the hull mounted one.

 Bobthehero wrote:
The commissar sword is atrocious, and its sash should be red, otherwise I like it.

Looks like this commissar has started working for the greater good!

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
Looks like this commissar has started working for the greater good!

Well someone better report him to the Commissari... uhh... I mean the Officio™ Prefectus™.

I just bought some old Commissars because they are vanishing from the US store and figured just in case they vanish from the Australian one as well, better grab some now. The new one looks no where near as good as the old ones from the pic we've seen (maybe I'll change my mind with bigger pictures, but the pose doesn't look as imposing and the proportions don't look as good from the little pic).

In the past 2 years I think I've spent more money on GW and FW because things were being removed from the stores than I have because I genuinely needed things.

Apologist wrote:I think it more likely Marbo will appear alongside Straken in a dedicated Codex Catachans.

Apart from being, y 'know, a Catachan character, the deathworlders are noticeably absent from the colour plate of famous regiments we've seen from the new Guard codex previews/leaks. With all the background, artwork and – critically – models GW have for Catachans, I really can't see them not releasing a proper Codex for them.

This.

Rostere wrote:

Apologist wrote:I think it more likely Marbo will appear alongside Straken in a dedicated Codex Catachans.

Apart from being, y 'know, a Catachan character, the deathworlders are noticeably absent from the colour plate of famous regiments we've seen from the new Guard codex previews/leaks. With all the background, artwork and – critically – models GW have for Catachans, I really can't see them not releasing a proper Codex for them.

This.

Especially since that's how it used to be, oh so long ago.

And here I was hoping that the notable regiments would all have their place, Catachans, Cadians, Tanith F&O, in the same codex, like the chapter tactics.

Cadians are also absent from the colour plate section, probably meaning that both the Cadians and the 'Chans are the two big regiments of the book.

Looks like the Valkyrie will still be pretty good value and the Vendetta hasn't been brutally overpriced as many feared, although it's obviously not the ridiculous bargain it once was.

I am disappointed that some of the obviously stupid elements of the last guard codex, like ordnance missiles and short-range vox-casters don't seem to have been corrected.

I wouldn't mind if the Vendetta has some rule saying it's guns weren't Skyfire, though that's mainly because I'd like an excuse to use the ACTUAL Imperial fighter aircraft which mostly just suck at the moment.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I just bought some old Commissars because they are vanishing from the US store and figured just in case they vanish from the Australian one as well, better grab some now. The new one looks no where near as good as the old ones from the pic we've seen (maybe I'll change my mind with bigger pictures, but the pose doesn't look as imposing and the proportions don't look as good from the little pic).

In the past 2 years I think I've spent more money on GW and FW because things were being removed from the stores than I have because I genuinely needed things.

This outlines almost all my purchases since the beginning of the year. When Scions looked like they were coming, I snapped up several blisters of the old, metal Storm Troopers because A) they're metal, and I like my minatures to have heft, and B) they're half the cost of the scions. I could stand US $25 for 5....but $35 for 5 is too much, especially if you want to field and army of them.

Then with the rumored GW-site update coming soon, i've also grabbed a platoons-worth of Steel Legion if all the metal goes away as well.

To AllSeeingSkink : If the Vendetta wasn't skyfire, what would be have left that could deal with air effectively? The Hydra, which doesn't have Interceptor so it gets alpha-struck by oncoming flyers? Or having to buy a fortification network for a couple quad guns?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I wouldn't mind if the Vendetta has some rule saying it's guns weren't Skyfire, though that's mainly because I'd like an excuse to use the ACTUAL Imperial fighter aircraft which mostly just suck at the moment.

Will still have that rumor of a new flyer!
But I for one think we have seen it all at this point. Makes me sad. I'll also be bummed if all the Catachan special characters got pulled for a dataslate. I liked Harker!

 Blacksails wrote:
Hooray for Marbo dataslate incoming.

I mean, why include something in a codex when you can charge $50 for a hardcover, 50 page book on Marbo's history and a single page of rules to include Marbo in your army.

I can see it now; Primary Detachment: Marbo. Because Marbo doesn't ally with people, people ally with Marbo.

This last line made me spit up my morning coffee in a series of humorous, albeit painful, laughs.

Hey no more Marbo! If that rumour is true there goes the guard's ace in the hole elite choice! Boo!

 Ravajaxe wrote:
Minutes ago dropped this :

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
1 ~ Sly Marbo will NOT be in the new Astra Militarum codex. He's gone. (possibly a future dataslate)

2 ~ The Vendetta has gone up to 170 points, and lost half it's transport capacity, in that it can only transport up to 6 infantry (25mm) models. They can, however, still be taken in squadrons.



I had guessed for 175 point for the Vendetta a few weeks ago, nearly on the spot ! Haha !

NO! NOOOOOO! NO! MARBOOOOOOO!

I guess it's time to change my avatar...

 kir44n wrote:
To AllSeeingSkink : If the Vendetta wasn't skyfire, what would be have left that could deal with air effectively? The Hydra, which doesn't have Interceptor so it gets alpha-struck by oncoming flyers? Or having to buy a fortification network for a couple quad guns?

I am expecting the Hydra to gain interceptor. That will make it basically like a longer ranged quad gun.

But more so I was thinking about the Imperial Navy fighter aircraft that I wish weren't so crap. The Thunderbolt and Lightning (very very frightening!) are the ACTUAL fighter aircraft of the Imperium which unfortunately both suck, I'd like to see them get better and the Vendetta be turned in to a close support aircraft rather than an uber-anti-aircraft thing.

The Lightning is like tissue paper, is currently more expensive than a Vendetta with less firepower and obviously no transport capacity. The Thunderbolt is a bit tougher, still not awesome, decent firepower though still not as much as a Vendetta and it is well overpriced (imagine a Crimson Hunter, but not as good and 20pts more expensive, lol).

 rabidguineapig wrote:

 Ravajaxe wrote:
Minutes ago dropped this :

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
1 ~ Sly Marbo will NOT be in the new Astra Militarum codex. He's gone. (possibly a future dataslate)

2 ~ The Vendetta has gone up to 170 points, and lost half it's transport capacity, in that it can only transport up to 6 infantry (25mm) models. They can, however, still be taken in squadrons.



I had guessed for 175 point for the Vendetta a few weeks ago, nearly on the spot ! Haha !

NO! NOOOOOO! NO! MARBOOOOOOO!

I guess it's time to change my avatar...

Just use the old (current) codex

It's not as much of a game changer as this current codex for me, at least. I didn't even have a legal army when it came out (goodbye Grenadiers doctrine)! Then I bought a billion Cadians but it seems I have the option again to use Stormtroopers as troops if I buy 'Militarum Tempestus'. If doctrines make a return, I'll be a happy man.

Marbo's not gone, he's simply infiltrated the GK codex, under the pseudonym 'Kaldor Draigo', or something.

Gifted with the armour of Abbadon the Despoiler, stolen by the tactical genius Creed himself and purified by a good beating from Commissar Yarrik's Power Klaw, Marbo has successfully completed the ultimate infiltration, and is now causing havoc across the realms of Chaos in the name of Catachan and the Emperor. So mighty is his prowess that even the Grey Knights have begun to respect his as one of their own. Marbo's current whereabouts are unknown, but reports of demonic voices screaming 'Nooo, not me... Please... PLEASE!' have been heard as far as the Ghoul Stars and as near as Mars. We can only assume he continues to fight the good fight, for if Marbo falls, there is no hope for mankind,

Marneus Calgar, 999 M41

Seriously, though, I hope he's not gone. The guy is too cool to just get rid of. If he's in a supplement, then that a little odd too, as every other supplement has had the characters (Farsight/Abbadon) included in the main codex. Seems odd (although entirely plausible) that they'd change that now.

Marbo would probably be the only dataslate I'd get suckered into buying. I honestly can't make an IG list without him, and play the theme music from "Commando" every time he comes onto the board. As long as he doesn't disappear completely I'll be happy.

I'm sure I could talk my group into letting me use the 5th ed rules and points for Marbo anyway. Disappointing to see rumors that he's been axed though.

That's just it though, just rumours, nothing solid yet.

 rabidguineapig wrote:

 Ravajaxe wrote:
Minutes ago dropped this :

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
1 ~ Sly Marbo will NOT be in the new Astra Militarum codex. He's gone. (possibly a future dataslate)

2 ~ The Vendetta has gone up to 170 points, and lost half it's transport capacity, in that it can only transport up to 6 infantry (25mm) models. They can, however, still be taken in squadrons.



I had guessed for 175 point for the Vendetta a few weeks ago, nearly on the spot ! Haha !

NO! NOOOOOO! NO! MARBOOOOOOO!

I guess it's time to change my avatar...

Your war is over son... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKsJLLaDA-k

Marbo is my favourite Elite choice. 65pts to annoy your opponent is wonderful. Me sad panda now that he might be gone from the codex.
At this rate everybody is going to start playing a choose your own codex

M.

IMO That Commissar looks downright laughable with the lanyard-chain, power-sabre and even bigger hat. If I ever want to get another Commissar, I'm getting a metal one off eBay.

 PuddlePirate wrote:

 rabidguineapig wrote:

 Ravajaxe wrote:
Minutes ago dropped this :

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
1 ~ Sly Marbo will NOT be in the new Astra Militarum codex. He's gone. (possibly a future dataslate)

2 ~ The Vendetta has gone up to 170 points, and lost half it's transport capacity, in that it can only transport up to 6 infantry (25mm) models. They can, however, still be taken in squadrons.



I had guessed for 175 point for the Vendetta a few weeks ago, nearly on the spot ! Haha !

NO! NOOOOOO! NO! MARBOOOOOOO!

I guess it's time to change my avatar...

Your war is over son... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKsJLLaDA-k

As of right now we can still hope he stuck around. If they put up the pre-orders for the new codex and his model is removed from the site, then I'll be pretty worried. Absolutely the most entertaining unit in the Codex, not sure what GW was thinking if the rumors are true.

I'll throw this in here too, basically how it went down when I saw that rumor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

Jesus, are they serious with that Commissar? I didn't care about the Taurox but that Commissar is objectively bad

 Bull0 wrote:
Jesus, are they serious with that Commissar? I didn't care about the Taurox but that Commissar is objectively bad

Depends. He gives autopass which is great. IC is also good. But you have to be careful in which unit he is attached...because "I see, Creed, you cant keep your men in line *BLAM*" is rather embarrasing... And "objectively"? Ahem...