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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 20:46:09
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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For everybody asking the same questions over and over you can simply select "Filter Thread" for Inquisitor Jex's posts. It's located on the left under his online/offline status. That way you can get all the good info without having to sort through all the posts looking for your question's answer. I think the points for the Leman Russ tanks have been posted 5 times now and people are missing it because this thread gets a new page every 20 minutes like people are going to miss this post :p
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Wow he looks like a real person! If I was going to get any more I would probably get that one.
Edit: And yes he said the Leman Russ was listed as Heavy.
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40k is as exciting as riding a pony, which doesn't sound very exciting.......
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 20:49:44
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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decker_cky wrote:The Eradicator seems very tempting at that price. 360 for a squadron of 3 provides a lot of cover ignoring shots.
You just have to hope your opponent does not draw puppet master !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 20:55:50
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Paradigm wrote:Seeing better pics of that new Commissar only makes me gladder I was able to pick up the old Finecast one today (a good cast as well, no issues).
To clarify on Lord Commissars, as they seem to only be Warlord if you don't have any order-givers, is that army-wide or just in HQ? ie If I have a LC as a HQ and several PCS, how does that work? I imagine the LC would be Warlord, but you never know.
The HQ must be senior officer actually; my mistake!
So it has to be a company commander? Or can, in any way, a Lord Commissar be a Warlord? Sorry for the repeated questions, I'm just not a fan of CCS so hope I can use a LC as a Warlord.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 21:13:09
Subject: Re:IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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I still want to buy the penal legion squad from victoria miniatures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 21:24:21
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Courageous Silver Helm
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I've always used the same models for conscripts and penal legionaries interchangeably so losing one isn't so bad. If both went I'd be a little upset.
I was also hoping that vets would've dropped to two specials, or one squad per infantry platoon because playing against vet spam has gotten really boring. I feel like i'm the only person on the west coast who runs regular platoons right now...
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40k: - Cadian 231st, Death Guard, Sisters, Dark Eldar Iyanden, Scythes of the Emperor
WHFB Armies: High Elves, Empire, WoC, Beastmen, Lizardmen, Dark Elves, Vampires
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 21:24:38
Subject: Re:IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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tjnorwoo wrote:I still want to buy the penal legion squad from victoria miniatures.
Conscripting them seems to be the best option.
besides they would look cooler in a giant squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 21:24:54
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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have the pics of the upcoming wd been leadked ? if so on which page ?
thanks
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 21:28:55
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Ravajaxe wrote:decker_cky wrote:The Eradicator seems very tempting at that price. 360 for a squadron of 3 provides a lot of cover ignoring shots.
You just have to hope your opponent does not draw puppet master !
I wasn't aware we were playing Yugioh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 21:38:10
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/world-war-2/ww2-russian-infantry-28
Probably where I'll get my conscripts from. I love the Russian officer too, either as a commissar or conscript leader.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 21:54:33
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Awesome.
So I can have Russes and say a Deathstrike or a Manticore as Ork allies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 21:59:54
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Powerful Ushbati
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Jex are HWT still 3 models or can you increase the amount of models in the unit. Are platoon command squads still by themselves?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:02:41
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Just putting this out there, but does anyone else think there's a lot of potential with a Hellhound or two with and Augur whatsitcalled? Fast, reasonably durable vehicle that can be taken in squadrons that in turn pinpoints a drop for up to four squads (and 10 special weapons) that come in on a single reserve roll. Scion-bomb, I guess, if we're following normal naming conventions for these.
I think this might have been said also, but with reasonably cheap (per melta) deep striking squads, cheap Vanquishers, Pask, Tank Hunter & Divination out the wazoo, and the other AT odds and ends in the codex, can Imperial Guard officially not worry about Imperial Knights anymore?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:02:55
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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You know, that dodgy Commissar is just about starting to grow on me. Lose the pimp chain, swap the sabre for a straighter edged sword, and we'll talk. I mean, I've got all the others... seems a shame to skip this one. While I'm here, thanks a lot Jex for posting so much info. I'm pretty glad at least some of the painful stuff turned out to be bogus, even if there are a lot of high-profile casualties.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:10:52
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Dakka Veteran
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Paradigm wrote:Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Paradigm wrote:Seeing better pics of that new Commissar only makes me gladder I was able to pick up the old Finecast one today (a good cast as well, no issues).
To clarify on Lord Commissars, as they seem to only be Warlord if you don't have any order-givers, is that army-wide or just in HQ? ie If I have a LC as a HQ and several PCS, how does that work? I imagine the LC would be Warlord, but you never know.
The HQ must be senior officer actually; my mistake!
So it has to be a company commander? Or can, in any way, a Lord Commissar be a Warlord? Sorry for the repeated questions, I'm just not a fan of CCS so hope I can use a LC as a Warlord.
It sounds as if it must be the Company Commander IF he is present. If the Company Commander IS NOT present, it can pass down to a Lord Commissar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:12:55
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Calculating Commissar
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tomjoad wrote: Paradigm wrote:Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Paradigm wrote:Seeing better pics of that new Commissar only makes me gladder I was able to pick up the old Finecast one today (a good cast as well, no issues).
To clarify on Lord Commissars, as they seem to only be Warlord if you don't have any order-givers, is that army-wide or just in HQ? ie If I have a LC as a HQ and several PCS, how does that work? I imagine the LC would be Warlord, but you never know.
The HQ must be senior officer actually; my mistake!
So it has to be a company commander? Or can, in any way, a Lord Commissar be a Warlord? Sorry for the repeated questions, I'm just not a fan of CCS so hope I can use a LC as a Warlord.
It sounds as if it must be the Company Commander IF he is present. If the Company Commander IS NOT present, it can pass down to a Lord Commissar.
I actually kind of like that rule. Seems pretty fluffy. Hopefully Tank commanders can override that though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:14:24
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Paradigm wrote:Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Paradigm wrote:Seeing better pics of that new Commissar only makes me gladder I was able to pick up the old Finecast one today (a good cast as well, no issues).
To clarify on Lord Commissars, as they seem to only be Warlord if you don't have any order-givers, is that army-wide or just in HQ? ie If I have a LC as a HQ and several PCS, how does that work? I imagine the LC would be Warlord, but you never know.
The HQ must be senior officer actually; my mistake!
So it has to be a company commander? Or can, in any way, a Lord Commissar be a Warlord? Sorry for the repeated questions, I'm just not a fan of CCS so hope I can use a LC as a Warlord.
Yup: the LC got a Chain of Command special rule that states: May be your warlord is only there is no model with the Senior Officer special rule, so if you want a LC Warlord, you got to drop the CCS and not have Yarrick (Since he does have the Senior officer rule) Nothing is stopping you to have a tank commander (who doesn't have the Senior Officer rule) and a LC as Warlord thought.
Tomb King wrote:Jex are HWT still 3 models or can you increase the amount of models in the unit. Are platoon command squads still by themselves?
Still 3 models, PCS is still alone.
Bull0 wrote:You know, that dodgy Commissar is just about starting to grow on me. Lose the pimp chain, swap the sabre for a straighter edged sword, and we'll talk.
I mean, I've got all the others... seems a shame to skip this one.
While I'm here, thanks a lot Jex for posting so much info. I'm pretty glad at least some of the painful stuff turned out to be bogus, even if there are a lot of high-profile casualties.
Hey no problem, I'm just happy it wasn't as bad as the rumours were making it be...as for the plastic Commissar, I would rather have him with options than a 'fixed' model with 30pts worth of wargear on him...still nice, but the lack of options is a turn off for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:16:04
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Happygrunt wrote: tomjoad wrote: Paradigm wrote:Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Paradigm wrote:Seeing better pics of that new Commissar only makes me gladder I was able to pick up the old Finecast one today (a good cast as well, no issues).
To clarify on Lord Commissars, as they seem to only be Warlord if you don't have any order-givers, is that army-wide or just in HQ? ie If I have a LC as a HQ and several PCS, how does that work? I imagine the LC would be Warlord, but you never know.
The HQ must be senior officer actually; my mistake!
So it has to be a company commander? Or can, in any way, a Lord Commissar be a Warlord? Sorry for the repeated questions, I'm just not a fan of CCS so hope I can use a LC as a Warlord.
It sounds as if it must be the Company Commander IF he is present. If the Company Commander IS NOT present, it can pass down to a Lord Commissar.
I actually kind of like that rule. Seems pretty fluffy. Hopefully Tank commanders can override that though.
Earlier in the thread, there was a post explaining that Commissars have a rule called Chain of Command ( iirc), which basically says that if there is an HQ choice in the army with the Voice of Command rule in the army, then the Lord Commisar may not be the Warlord.
If tank commanders don't have that same rule, then yes, he can be the Warlord.
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:21:47
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
UK
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:Earlier in the thread, there was a post explaining that Commissars have a rule called Chain of Command ( iirc), which basically says that if there is an HQ choice in the army with the Voice of Command rule in the army, then the Lord Commisar may not be the Warlord.
If tank commanders don't have that same rule, then yes, he can be the Warlord.
The chain of command... which is the chain I go get and beat you with until you learn to respect the chain of command!
Seems like a strange rule. I guess it's mostly for balance? I was always under the impression Commissars were a higher authority than Imperial Guard officers, by and large. Not that I'm any kind of expert, I haven't read many of the IG novels or anything
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:24:12
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Dakka Veteran
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Bull0 wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:Earlier in the thread, there was a post explaining that Commissars have a rule called Chain of Command ( iirc), which basically says that if there is an HQ choice in the army with the Voice of Command rule in the army, then the Lord Commisar may not be the Warlord.
If tank commanders don't have that same rule, then yes, he can be the Warlord.
The chain of command... which is the chain I go get and beat you with until you learn to respect the chain of command!
Seems like a strange rule. I guess it's mostly for balance? I was always under the impression Commissars were a higher authority than Imperial Guard officers, by and large. Not that I'm any kind of expert, I haven't read many of the IG novels or anything
I think that commissars are, like, above-but-removed-from the IG regiments that they're with. More of a supervisor type sent from the main office, while the actual officers are like your actual boss that you report to on a daily basis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:24:46
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Commissars are just morale officers, they are advisors more than commanders; of course if the commander gets cowardly and gets a bolt for his trouble, the commissar is usually the one that fills in the leadership gap to keep the army working and the chain of command reliabl and alive
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:25:03
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Bull0 wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:Earlier in the thread, there was a post explaining that Commissars have a rule called Chain of Command ( iirc), which basically says that if there is an HQ choice in the army with the Voice of Command rule in the army, then the Lord Commisar may not be the Warlord. If tank commanders don't have that same rule, then yes, he can be the Warlord. The chain of command... which is the chain I go get and beat you with until you learn to respect the chain of command! Seems like a strange rule. I guess it's mostly for balance? I was always under the impression Commissars were a higher authority than Imperial Guard officers, by and large. Not that I'm any kind of expert, I haven't read many of the IG novels or anything Sort of. From what I understand, Commissars aren't there to lead; they are there to make sure the commander does his job. Commissars only tend to take command if there is no other option (see: Yarrick). Otherwise they just stand back and let the commander do his job. Well, unless he cocks up that is.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:25:58
Subject: Re:IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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What's the exact wording on the Augur Array, Inquisitor Jex?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:26:10
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The changes to veterans are insane. My mech guard just got a lot stronger for little to no increase in cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:35:33
Subject: Re:IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Mr.Omega wrote:What's the exact wording on the Augur Array, Inquisitor Jex?
"If you attempt to bring a unit on from reserve using deep strike, and the location chosen for its deployment is within 6 inches of a vehicle with an augur array, that unit does not scatter. The augur array must have been on the battlefield at the start of the turn in order for it to be used"
So I'm afraid it cannot be used with grav chute insertion...yet again grav chute states a unit gets on the board as it was deep striking..wordings wordings...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:41:12
Subject: Re:IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Inquisitor Jex wrote: Mr.Omega wrote:What's the exact wording on the Augur Array, Inquisitor Jex?
"If you attempt to bring a unit on from reserve using deep strike, and the location chosen for its deployment is within 6 inches of a vehicle with an augur array, that unit does not scatter. The augur array must have been on the battlefield at the start of the turn in order for it to be used"
So I'm afraid it cannot be used with grav chute insertion...yet again grav chute states a unit gets on the board as it was deep striking..wordings wordings...
Can scout sentinals take Augurs?
If so, you can probably outflank a unit of scouts and drop down an allied unit of terminators right in your opponent's back lines.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:53:54
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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BrookM wrote:Sweet, nice to see that vets still pack three specials at least. 
Well the sargeant can take one too. So before we paid 115 for veterans with three plasmaguns, now we pay 120 points for four plasmaguns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 22:58:11
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Jex, can a tank commander take the relic that gives him It Will Not Die? Would it confer to the tank he is in?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 23:04:26
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Inquisitor Jex wrote:Franks1313 wrote:First, thank you Jex.
I saw that the executioner got 35 points cheaper, how about the rest of the LR variants?
Can't wait to pick my codex tomorrow.
Thanks again.
Also, sorry if it has been mentioned already I tried to read the entire thread, but my boss was hovering...
no problem; I'm at work right now m'self!
Basic is 150
Exterminator 130
Vanquis 135
Eradicator 120
Demo 170
Punisher 140
Executionner 155.
FatBoyNoSlim wrote:Do I have to take Pask as a HQ choice or can I just put him in a Heavy Support Section tank?
I ask this cos what if want to put Pask in a single tank and not have another tank being forced to shoot at the same target.
Also what is the Heavy Stubber price? Seen both 5 and 10 points mentioned.
Pask must be a HQ tank.
Stubber/storm bolter's 5 pts; everything is either 5, 10 or 1 pt (searchlight is the only thign that's 1 pt) augur's 25
thanks very much answering
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 23:06:09
Subject: Re:IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So..... tomorrow is the day that we've all been waiting for....!! Are there any units that's have over looked? O a spread note I think Marbo killed the
emperor and took over the job.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/10 23:09:57
Subject: IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 5th April)
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Grim Rune Priest in the Eye of the Storm
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Ratling???
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