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Nob Bikers are the same points as before (but nobs themselves cheaper), Eavy Armour got a point cheaper on the Nobz.

Mob rule says Morale and Pinning Tests

Nob LD hasnt changed


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 ciaflayed1 wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:

Stashgordon36 wrote:
There's no way they raped our orks this bad. I'll wait to see that book before I buy into the rumor frenzy going on here.

I am literally answering questions from the codex. Directly and as written.

Is there ANYTHING that makes my horde list still valid, or do I have to rebuild? Did Grots get anything worth a crap?
I have a Nob squad with Cybork bodeez, Painboy, Waaagh! Banner...is that even still allowed?

I feel bad now but no more Cybork Bodies for nobs sorry, your painboy is OK but he's now a HQ slot, Waagh banner got a little more expensive.
Grots with a runt herd are now 5 points less for a minimum squad, no changes or improvement.

So here is what I am betting we will see in either waagh ghazkull or pay to win dataslates down the road.

Nobz of all flavors being able to be taken as troops with compulsory warboss (or possibly ghaz) in same thing. So megaarmor for meganobz/foot nobz, or warbkie for biker nobz.

dataslate to make kanz and walkers maybe into troops with a mek as the HQ.

You know, basically all the stuff we have for free and love now, so we can be suckers and pay more for it later.

for the boys, is the mob still required to all have the same wargear? ie all sluggas, or all shootas?

and if the nob gets combi weapons do 3 boys still get rokkits & big shootas?

codex is on the GW site now.

Is the stompa in the codex? If so what is its point cost and weapons?

 Orock wrote:
So here is what I am betting we will see in either waagh ghazkull or pay to win dataslates down the road.

Nobz of all flavors being able to be taken as troops with compulsory warboss (or possibly ghaz) in same thing. So megaarmor for meganobz/foot nobz, or warbkie for biker nobz.

dataslate to make kanz and walkers maybe into troops with a mek as the HQ.

You know, basically all the stuff we have for free and love now, so we can be suckers and pay more for it later.

I was on board with this line of thought after the Tyranids release. But the regimental supplements I was expecting for the Guard never materialized. Perhaps that business model is only for heavily nerfed Xenos books?

Chosen Praetorian wrote:
Is the stompa in the codex? If so what is its point cost and weapons?

same everything. no custom.

 Melcavuk wrote:
Lootas got cheaper, gun is the same.

Tank bustas got cheaper, Glory hogs gives 2vp for first blood if they blow up a tank to get it.

This is and that Khans can be 6 is the only thing that made me happy here. And I am the GW apologist compared to my friends.
Did they forge the narrative when they made the codex and picked rules from a random chart rollin' dice?

Why did they have to put a stompa in each ¤%&/( bundle?

All must take the same, the upgrade replaces the slugga and all must do so if one does.

The weapons for the Nob is completely independant from what the boys have, they may buy from ranged or melee weapon list (so yes you can have kombi shoota along with 3 big shootas in a mob of 30).

I just hope the "i have a codex" is a lie.. if you gota it.. you own a camera can you prove that you own it? if not.. waiter "check please"

Someone needs to burn that warehouse before those books ship...

 Jidmah wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:
Hrmm, still works to buy and download now. I thought they'd of fixed it. But the codex is really cool!


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My current personal favourite: Warboss with Mega Armour, git Finda, Da Finkin Kap and Ded Shiny Shoota for a slow and purposeful, 2 warlord trait flash git stile boss. Who would confer said rule to a git unit and therefore to my understanding always be BS3.

Doesn't work for me. Is there any trick to it?

I took a look at their webpage code, and it seems that there is a backdoor for allowing a test user to test the download link. If you for some reason match up with that test-user, you'll get the download.

So, in other words: If you're lucky, you might get the codex. At least they are consistent, even forging narratives on their releases

I think this might work, if you are authorized:

https://www.blacklibrary.com/DigitalDownload.aspx?i=8360817&f=epub

 jackblg wrote:
I just hope the "i have a codex" is a lie.. if you gota it.. you own a camera can you prove that you own it? if not.. waiter "check please"

The first stage: Denial.

 Eldarain wrote:

 Orock wrote:
So here is what I am betting we will see in either waagh ghazkull or pay to win dataslates down the road.

Nobz of all flavors being able to be taken as troops with compulsory warboss (or possibly ghaz) in same thing. So megaarmor for meganobz/foot nobz, or warbkie for biker nobz.

dataslate to make kanz and walkers maybe into troops with a mek as the HQ.

You know, basically all the stuff we have for free and love now, so we can be suckers and pay more for it later.

I was on board with this line of thought after the Tyranids release. But the regimental supplements I was expecting for the Guard never materialized. Perhaps that business model is only for heavily nerfed Xenos books?

possibly, they always say space marines are their biggest seller. Well when everyone already has everything they want for space marines, they have to start squeezing the other rocks for blood, since they underperformed on their numbers and made the rich investors grumble.

Honestly I think I am done with GW. Ill download the book for free later, all the pdfs they have the balls to charge money for for free, and buy kromlech models and off brands for what I want. They don't deserve my money.

Do ard boys still exist?

 jackblg wrote:
I just hope the "i have a codex" is a lie.. if you gota it.. you own a camera can you prove that you own it? if not.. waiter "check please"

Its digital so I dont need a camera, I can post a photo of a random page (one without rules) however I'm not sure if that violates copyright. Whether or not your believe is entirely upto you, however when you buy and read the book you'll see I'm merrily right.


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 deffrekka wrote:
Do ard boys still exist?

In that boys can pay for eavy armour? Yes. But its no longer one per army.

with regards to the supplements that they release. Would it help if they did a 'season pass' thing where you pay once and get all the content post release? Its still 'bad' but it softens the blow a bit imo.

 Melcavuk wrote:
Nob Bikers are the same points as before (but nobs themselves cheaper), Eavy Armour got a point cheaper on the Nobz.

Mob rule says Morale and Pinning Tests

Nob LD hasnt changed


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 ciaflayed1 wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:

Stashgordon36 wrote:
There's no way they raped our orks this bad. I'll wait to see that book before I buy into the rumor frenzy going on here.

I am literally answering questions from the codex. Directly and as written.

Is there ANYTHING that makes my horde list still valid, or do I have to rebuild? Did Grots get anything worth a crap?
I have a Nob squad with Cybork bodeez, Painboy, Waaagh! Banner...is that even still allowed?

I feel bad now but no more Cybork Bodies for nobs sorry, your painboy is OK but he's now a HQ slot, Waagh banner got a little more expensive.
Grots with a runt herd are now 5 points less for a minimum squad, no changes or improvement.

Thanks very much!

 Eldarain wrote:

 jackblg wrote:
I just hope the "i have a codex" is a lie.. if you gota it.. you own a camera can you prove that you own it? if not.. waiter "check please"

The first stage: Denial.

Oh no, you miss understand, i dont play orks.. i play necrons. but you know.. i did this when they fethed over tyranids.. and i was wrong then too XD

Is the rumoured change to the standard foc true? Is it 3 HQs now?

Is the Deffrolla the same price as a Battlewagon?

Also, thanks for answering all the questions.

Allot wrote:
This is and that Khans can be 6 is the only thing that made me happy here.

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

Well hopefully the fluff is still awesome. If there's a bunch of new GOOD fluff I can at least take comfort in that.

monkeypuzzle wrote:Is the rumoured change to the standard foc true? Is it 3 HQs now?

Orks have their own detachment type they can use, it is minimum 1 HQ and 3 Troop, but can take an additional 2 HQ, 6 Troop, 3 Heavy, 3 Elite, 3 Fast

Hollismason wrote:Is the Deffrolla the same price as a Battlewagon?

Also, thanks for answering all the questions.

Deff Rolla is half the price, but only D3 instead of D6 hits now. (so half the effectiveness)

Also is that rumour of a big squad of Nobs acting as a Warboss true?

UltraPrime wrote:

Allot wrote:
This is and that Khans can be 6 is the only thing that made me happy here.

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

BUT they now have a chance of running if I am reading this right.

 Melcavuk wrote:

monkeypuzzle wrote:Is the rumoured change to the standard foc true? Is it 3 HQs now?

Orks have their own detachment type they can use, it is minimum 1 HQ and 3 Troop, but can take an additional 2 HQ, 6 Troop, 3 Heavy, 3 Elite, 3 Fast

9 troops and 3 HQ?

Really, really?

Had to get one of the warboss editions. Those objective markers actually look awesome, i thought they'd be plastic and cheap, and the box itself looks very nice too

Hollismason wrote:Also is that rumour of a big squad of Nobs acting as a Warboss true?

Nope

kronk wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:

monkeypuzzle wrote:Is the rumoured change to the standard foc true? Is it 3 HQs now?

Orks have their own detachment type they can use, it is minimum 1 HQ and 3 Troop, but can take an additional 2 HQ, 6 Troop, 3 Heavy, 3 Elite, 3 Fast

9 troops and 3 HQ?

Really, really?

Yup, I cant see why you'd use it instead of just taking 3 combined arms detachments to get upto 9 heavies in though. The special rules are kinda meh.

Chosen Praetorian wrote:
Well hopefully the fluff is still awesome. If there's a bunch of new GOOD fluff I can at least take comfort in that.

The second stage: Bargaining.