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 Asherian Command wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Yeah, I think they also wanted to make it horrible enough as to make the Lannisters look bad.

The way I see it, Oberyn just dying won't have that much of a political impact, since it's trial by combat.

But killing him off in a sadistic and disturbing way? That's going to cause a bit of a stir among the courtiers.


I laughed at that. They killed a prince of dorne. Thats a pretty big deal! Political backlash. YEAH That will be.


A prince of Dorn who entered into a trial by combat.

Pretty sure it's legal to kill even a prince in that case.

As long as his death is "honorable," because those courtiers shouldn't have their ideals shattered.

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I think when they sent that Robin kid away to experience the world, he's gonna end up across the sea where he's gonna marry Daneris, then bring her home to his castle and push her through the hole in the floor, but a dragon will save her and then burn down the whole castle.

 
   
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Well...I think that may have been foreshadowed at some point.

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Well yet another fight that should have been epic but just wasn't.

Not sure if they haven't got the staff or the stunts people but all the fighting seems to be either 90% running away or in this case 90% dancing about.

I know I shouldn't expect fight scenes like Sparticaus or 300 etc but just one cool duel would be good.


 
   
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Daston wrote:
or in this case 90% dancing about.

Have you read the books? Because this was actually less dancing about than in the books.

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Just watched the episode

Really great stuff - even if it had a bit with the wall of dullness.

Sansa is growing nicely into her role as more important piece in the game
Ramsey Bolton is just a fabulous bad guy - kudos to both him and the acton playing Theon.
The Tyrion / Jamie conversation was great
The duel was awesome as well.
Didn't think they were doing the letter from home Jorah story but that all made sense.
Interesting to see if Arya and Sansa are to be reunited

Much better than the books at this point.

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Daston wrote:
Well yet another fight that should have been epic but just wasn't.

Not sure if they haven't got the staff or the stunts people but all the fighting seems to be either 90% running away or in this case 90% dancing about.

I know I shouldn't expect fight scenes like Sparticaus or 300 etc but just one cool duel would be good.

That was wushu vs medevil combat.

Fighting is always a dance. Those two were doing quite a good fight.

Sparticaus has more of a gladiatorial fighting styles, not wushu or medevil combat. Medevil combat is very much stab and slash down. And with a spear you have to move like that with an enemy with that big of a sword or in swords in general.

Spears are the fastest weapon on the planet in terms of close quarters because it is both two handed and very light compared to a sword.

Plus against the mountain he is trying to tire him out. (The viper is trying to at least)

In terms of strategy he is using his superior agility to defeat the mountain. And in this case he actually did defeat the mountain. Because the viper always carries a poison.

Plus in 300 People don't fight like that :/ nor in spariticus, people stay to discipline and they fight with very good coordination, because if you don't one false step and your dead. Though to be honest I would rather use an Italian Fighting Style in terms of fighting its brutal but efficient.


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Er.. your experience in single combat is what again?

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Gore is excessive. I don't do torture porn.


It's not excessive. Gore =/= Torture porn.

And you watch Walking Dead, don't you? That show has far, far more gore.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Gore is excessive. I don't do torture porn.


It's not excessive. Gore =/= Torture porn.

And you watch Walking Dead, don't you? That show has far, far more gore.

EDIT for clarity
it does, but the zombies are dead. I'm not into simulated torture porn with flayings, squishings, etc.

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 Asherian Command wrote:
Though to be honest I would rather use an Italian Fighting Style in terms of fighting its brutal but efficient.

what's that? Change sides at the end and pretend it is all good?
   
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it does, but the zombies aren't dead. not into torture porn.


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 Asherian Command wrote:
Daston wrote:
Well yet another fight that should have been epic but just wasn't.

Not sure if they haven't got the staff or the stunts people but all the fighting seems to be either 90% running away or in this case 90% dancing about.

I know I shouldn't expect fight scenes like Sparticaus or 300 etc but just one cool duel would be good.

That was wushu vs medevil combat.

Fighting is always a dance. Those two were doing quite a good fight.

Sparticaus has more of a gladiatorial fighting styles, not wushu or medevil combat. Medevil combat is very much stab and slash down. And with a spear you have to move like that with an enemy with that big of a sword or in swords in general.

Spears are the fastest weapon on the planet in terms of close quarters because it is both two handed and very light compared to a sword.

Plus against the mountain he is trying to tire him out. (The viper is trying to at least)

In terms of strategy he is using his superior agility to defeat the mountain. And in this case he actually did defeat the mountain. Because the viper always carries a poison.

Plus in 300 People don't fight like that :/ nor in spariticus, people stay to discipline and they fight with very good coordination, because if you don't one false step and your dead. Though to be honest I would rather use an Italian Fighting Style in terms of fighting its brutal but efficient.



i understand why they did it, I have done Judo for 20+ years and a spot of fencing. However in a setting with zombies, dragons and castrated soliders (whose voices have seem to have broken) I would at least like to see some epic combat and not the running away fighting they seem to like atm. The fight between Stark And Jamie was pretty good in season 1 and there are glimps of other good 1 v 1 combat but the big duels seem to lack something.

Dont get me started on the "fight" with that cities champion where the other guy just throws a knife....sigh


 
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
it does, but the zombies aren't dead. not into torture porn.


Do you practice not making any sense?


Its an innate talent. You're right though, see my edit.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Er.. your experience in single combat is what again?


In terms of sword fighting I learned Fencing with midevil weapons. I specialized in spear combat. So I have three years experience in that regard. I learned Tai Chi as well.

So yeah. :/ I am quick guy for my size. (I am six foot)


i understand why they did it, I have done Judo for 20+ years and a spot of fencing. However in a setting with zombies, dragons and castrated soliders (whose voices have seem to have broken) I would at least like to see some epic combat and not the running away fighting they seem to like atm. The fight between Stark And Jamie was pretty good in season 1 and there are glimps of other good 1 v 1 combat but the big duels seem to lack something.

Dont get me started on the "fight" with that cities champion where the other guy just throws a knife....sigh


Agreed. Jamie vs Ned Stark is probably my most favorite fights. I mean the Jon snow fight vs the knife guy was pretty epic if not one sided (IN favor of the knife guy.

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Jonas vs. tribal guy was nice too, but again short.
   
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 d-usa wrote:
Jonas vs. tribal guy was nice too, but again short.

Most fights are short. No battle will ever exceed 30 minutes.

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You also have to consider the source- GRR Martin is pretty much out to rob every victory of its joy, and drag each and every good guy into the mud, or toss them onto his ever growing pile of corpses.

In a world where honor is a death sentence, a grand duel of equals has no place. Those who play the Game of Swords will only get into fights they know they can win, and slaughter red shirts. Anyone who likes fair fights quickly gets beaten by cheating, treachery, or something else to reinforce how GRIMDARK it all is.




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I just like how the Viper ran the spear blade right across the back of Mountain calf

Cut him down to size

just like Hound making sure the guy gets the point that he is eating all the chickens

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 Jihadin wrote:
I just like how the Viper ran the spear blade right across the back of Mountain calf

Cut him down to size

just like Hound making sure the guy gets the point that he is eating all the chickens


A cut to the hamstring could lead to lots of blood loss.

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Not fast enough in Viper case

I would do hand springs if the Viper came back later on being a Red Priest was "around"

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 Jihadin wrote:
Not fast enough in Viper case

I would do hand springs if the Viper came back later on being a Red Priest was "around"

Yes with a messed up face and everything too boot

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Just watched the episode

Really great stuff - even if it had a bit with the wall of dullness.

Sansa is growing nicely into her role as more important piece in the game
Ramsey Bolton is just a fabulous bad guy - kudos to both him and the acton playing Theon.
The Tyrion / Jamie conversation was great
The duel was awesome as well.
Didn't think they were doing the letter from home Jorah story but that all made sense.
Interesting to see if Arya and Sansa are to be reunited

Much better than the books at this point.


The actor playing Theon personally asked D and D for actor playing Ramsay to get the part as they are good friends in real life and felt the creepy and intense scenes required someone he was comfortable with to execute them.

That said, I am not entirely happy with Bolton portrayal in the show. Hope we get more in season 4 and perhaps a bit more on track.

They made Ramsay too good looking. He's suppose to be uglier than sin.

 
   
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 Gitzbitah wrote:
You also have to consider the source- GRR Martin is pretty much out to rob every victory of its joy, and drag each and every good guy into the mud, or toss them onto his ever growing pile of corpses.

In a world where honor is a death sentence, a grand duel of equals has no place. Those who play the Game of Swords will only get into fights they know they can win, and slaughter red shirts. Anyone who likes fair fights quickly gets beaten by cheating, treachery, or something else to reinforce how GRIMDARK it all is.



Totally right here. I had forgotten that during last night's duel. I went from thinking how clever to have the Prince have a personal motivation in the fight, to thinking how ruthless the author slaughters good guys with noble intentions. I HOWLED at the TV. I have NEVER done that before. GRIMDARK indeed.

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Part of me during the fight was thinking maybe this will be the one time the book and show will be really different a Oberyn will live.

 
   
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The actor playing Theon personally asked D and D for actor playing Ramsay to get the part as they are good friends in real life and felt the creepy and intense scenes required someone he was comfortable with to execute them.

That said, I am not entirely happy with Bolton portrayal in the show. Hope we get more in season 4 and perhaps a bit more on track.

They made Ramsay too good looking. He's suppose to be uglier than sin.
even more amusing is that they tried to get Alfie Allen's (theon) real sister to play Asha but she refused saying it was a bit too creepy.

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