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 reds8n wrote:
... Wonder if Serkis is going to be doing more motion capture stuff ..?

One would have thought he might be a bit sick of it, especially coming off of the ( rather great looking) Planet of the Apes sequel.

Maybe he does that because it is what he really likes to do?

I'm sure Serkis is saying "gee I've been in six blockbuster movies now, how bout you guys?"

 Frazzled wrote:
I'm sure Serkis is saying "gee I've been in six blockbuster movies now, how bout you guys?"

Ford "Only 6? Pah. Fetch me another drink, short round."

And then Kong stepped on him...

Max Von Sydow picks the strangest roles, but I'm so happy we have a couple actors with some clout in this. Hamil's voice work is good, but lets face it, you get Harrison Ford to play Harrison Ford, he's the same character every time he's on screen. Not that thats bad, he just lacks variety, and Carrie Fisher hasn't really done anything after Star Wars of note.

Not too concerned about unknowns, look at LOTR, new Star Trek, Avengers (sort of) and Star Wars, people rise to the occasion.

 EmilCrane wrote:
Max Von Sydow picks the strangest roles, but I'm so happy we have a couple actors with some clout in this. Hamil's voice work is good, but lets face it, you get Harrison Ford to play Harrison Ford, he's the same character every time he's on screen. Not that thats bad, he just lacks variety, and Carrie Fisher hasn't really done anything after Star Wars of note.

To be fair, she spent a lot of time during and after Star Wars in a drug induced stupor.

Plus, you know, the whole, bestselling, prize-winning author thing...

 Compel wrote:
Plus, you know, the whole, bestselling, prize-winning author thing...

She was also on 30 Rock, so she has that going for her.

 EmilCrane wrote:
..and Carrie Fisher hasn't really done anything after Star Wars of note..

By which I'm assuming you actually mean 'hasn't been in any big budget movies so far as I remember...?'

Because she's done a heck of a lot, some of it fairly notable...

I'll say this...Daisy Ridley could be Natalie Portman's sister, so it's pretty obvious she's Han and Leia's daughter.

What about The Blues Brothers, that was after Star Wars right? ;P

chaos0xomega wrote:
What about The Blues Brothers, that was after Star Wars right? ;P

It was the same year as The Empire Strikes Back: 1980.

oh, nevermind then

She can bulls-eye my wamp rat.

(I have no fething clue what I'm saying. Someone help me.)

mmm... I'll allow it.

 kronk wrote:
She can bulls-eye my wamp rat.

(I have no fething clue what I'm saying. Someone help me.)

There is no help, only Gozer.

(Now I'm not sure what I am saying)

Dang she's cute. I'll over look the mom-shorts!

Max Von Sydown! Huzzah!

Anyone else seen him in a pantomime?

So with that red hair, Domhnall Gleeson has a good chance of being Ben Skywalker (or some kind of Ben remix), right? I'm sure the fan sites have this stuff more or less figured out, but I don't frequent those hives of scum and villainy.

While it is possible they may use some elements of the EU I wouldn't make any prognostications based on anything in them, like specific characters.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if JJ Abrams changed all the former EU archetype characters names and 'personalities' ever so slightly to try to reinforce the fact that its all dead and everything is new. Almost like a little attempt to say 'see we're starting over from scratch, this is all brand new, I'm so original and creative, didn't borrow this from established sources AT ALL.'

Carrie Fisher is also Dr. Evil's group therapist.

 Medium of Death wrote:
Carrie Fisher is also Dr. Evil's group therapist.

And Peter Griffon's boss.

 Ahtman wrote:
While it is possible they may use some elements of the EU I wouldn't make any prognostications based on anything in them, like specific characters.

Eh, it's random message board speculation...I'm not wagering souls here. At least not mine.

@chaos: I don't get the impression that Abrams and Kasdan will refuse to use any aspect from the EU out of pride or spite, even if it feels that way to you. Abrams is an admitted SW fanboy. EU elements that work for the story they want to tell are probably have a chance to make the cut. Given that Star Trek was a reboot, he was actually fairly respectful to the old ST material with the exception of one unfortunate scene in the second movie. He even found a way to reboot the franchise while keeping the old stuff canon. I realize it might be all or nothing with you, but I think you should give the guy a chance.

There was nothing in second movie he was respectful about, including a coherent plot.

 gorgon wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
While it is possible they may use some elements of the EU I wouldn't make any prognostications based on anything in them, like specific characters.

Eh, it's random message board speculation...I'm not wagering souls here. At least not mine.

@chaos: I don't get the impression that Abrams and Kasdan will refuse to use any aspect from the EU out of pride or spite, even if it feels that way to you. Abrams is an admitted SW fanboy. EU elements that work for the story they want to tell are probably have a chance to make the cut. Given that Star Trek was a reboot, he was actually fairly respectful to the old ST material with the exception of one unfortunate scene in the second movie. He even found a way to reboot the franchise while keeping the old stuff canon. I realize it might be all or nothing with you, but I think you should give the guy a chance.

I think you and I have different viewpoints on his Star Trek films then. They were great action films, I appreciate that he kept the original canon intact with his time paradox nonsense (which is something that I actually absolutely hate in general, same reason I dont watch Dr. Who) but they were terrible, terrible Star Trek films, and I find the second film to actually be an insult to The Wrath of Khan.

 Frazzled wrote:
There was nothing in second movie he was respectful about, including a coherent plot.

Pretty much this.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I find the second film to actually be an insult to The Wrath of Khan.

In all fairness it is an insult to Space Seed (Season 1 Episode 22), not Wrath of Khan.

Never even heard of it.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Never even heard of it.

The second star trek film from JJ Abrahamlincolns happens when Kirk and Spock are young pups. In the original TV series, they first meet Khan when they're young pups. While the timeline was fethed up by the first Star Trek, the meeting of Khan and Kirk in the second movie parallels Kirk and Khan's first meeting. The first met in the Original TV Series. Space Seed (Season 1 Episode 22).

It's a fething classic.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Never even heard of it.

Space Seed is the first meeting between Khan and the Enterprise, Wrath of Khan is the about the second meeting years later. Into Darkness was about the first meeting of Khan and the Enterprise. In Space Seed Khan tries to take over the Enterprise and kill most of the crew, in the second he is just out for revenge. As you can see here the stunt doubles also fought for the first time: