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Spoiler:


WTF???

Does that cover with Urien Rakarth on it have "THE RULES" written on the spine?

Edit...
It does!

Ultramarine cover = "A Galaxy of War"
Helbrute cover = "Dark Millennium"
Urien Rakarth cover = "The Rules"

That's fething bull gak!

WORST COVER EVAR!

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Kid_Kyoto






Probably work

...nope, nope, I'm wrong. Those ARE book covers.

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Well those are different books, so each book has its own title. I guess they couldnt come up with a clever name for the rulebook, but that's okay because I think it would be frustrating for them to give the Core Rulebook a fluff name. Its quick and easy to find the rulebook when the book is called "The Rules"

EDIT: Correction, they are all rulebooks, but the Urien Rakarth one is only the rules, no fluff, no artwork, just the rules ma'am.

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Lisbon, Portugal

Would "Rites of War" be a nice name for the rules book?

edit: damn, that wasn't double post. lol

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"Name one where it did that."
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 Shadenuat wrote:
Voted Astra Militarum for a chance for them to get nerfed instead of my own army.
 
   
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UK

Yeah, those cover are poor. 5th I liked for the simplicity, 6th I really liked for the epicness. These are just dire, they'd better have sime kind of dust cover that doesn't double the cost. (yeah right)

On the plus side, I do like the fact I don't have to re-buy the gallery and fluff I bought 2 years ago.

 
   
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker






"Changed stuff over player feedback"?

Hardly. If they are opening pre-orders this soon, it means that the books are already printed. The only way to respond to feedback now would be a Day One FAQ.

In Boxing matches, you actually get paid to take a dive and make the other guy look good.

In Warhammer 40K, you're expected to pay cash out of your pocket for the privilege of having Marines and IG trample all over your Xenos/Chaos. 
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Paradigm wrote:
Yeah, those cover are poor. 5th I liked for the simplicity, 6th I really liked for the epicness. These are just dire, they'd better have sime kind of dust cover that doesn't double the cost. (yeah right)

On the plus side, I do like the fact I don't have to re-buy the gallery and fluff I bought 2 years ago.

You buy all three books as a "set" with a slipcase to store them in.
   
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis




On the Internet

 oni wrote:
Spoiler:


WTF???

Does that cover with Urien Rakarth on it have "THE RULES" written on the spine?

Edit...
It does!

Ultramarine cover = "A Galaxy of War"
Helbrute cover = "Dark Millennium"
Urien Rakarth cover = "The Rules"

That's fething bull gak!

WORST COVER EVAR!

Anyone willing to bet that that DE image will be the new DE cover when they get an update? I know I am.

I mean the Ultramarine was used in the Marine Codex release, the Helbrute is from the Crusade of Fire book....

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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles






South Yorkshire, England

 Paradigm wrote:
Yeah, those cover are poor. 5th I liked for the simplicity, 6th I really liked for the epicness. These are just dire, they'd better have sime kind of dust cover that doesn't double the cost. (yeah right)

On the plus side, I do like the fact I don't have to re-buy the gallery and fluff I bought 2 years ago.


So you're certain they will sell these books on an individual basis? Cause, I'm not... They will sell all three as a bundle.

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London

 Paradigm wrote:
Yeah, those cover are poor. 5th I liked for the simplicity, 6th I really liked for the epicness. These are just dire, they'd better have sime kind of dust cover that doesn't double the cost. (yeah right)

On the plus side, I do like the fact I don't have to re-buy the gallery and fluff I bought 2 years ago.


They'll come in a set of three in a slipcase, knowing GW. No individual sales.
   
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Nuremberg

No starter? Well, that's crap. I'm not paying full price for a GW rulebook, sadly, so it looks like I'm sitting this edition out until they release a rulebook that is better value.

   
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 Sephyr wrote:
"Changed stuff over player feedback"?

Hardly. If they are opening pre-orders this soon, it means that the books are already printed. The only way to respond to feedback now would be a Day One FAQ.

Or they're referring to player feedback over 6th, not 7th.
   
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 Da Boss wrote:
No starter? Well, that's crap. I'm not paying full price for a GW rulebook, sadly, so it looks like I'm sitting this edition out until they release a rulebook that is better value.


Starters are never released with the new edition launch, at least for the last 3 or 4. A new starter, if it exists, is likely to appear August/September if they are sticking to previous schedules.
   
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South Yorkshire, England

NoggintheNog wrote:
 Da Boss wrote:
No starter? Well, that's crap. I'm not paying full price for a GW rulebook, sadly, so it looks like I'm sitting this edition out until they release a rulebook that is better value.


Starters are never released with the new edition launch, at least for the last 3 or 4. A new starter, if it exists, is likely to appear August/September if they are sticking to previous schedules.


My Birthday in August.
Getting married in September
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Malicious Mutant Scum




Belfast, Northern Ireland

Pre-orders are already up on my local hobby store:

This is a Pre-Order for the new Warhammer 40K 7th edition rulebook.
This product comprises of three books withing a single slipcase;

The Rules - 200 Pages - Just the rules
The Grimdark - 128 Pages - Lore and background info
The Hobby - 114 Pages - Pictures and guides for all things 40K


It's up for £50RRP, £40 with online discount from the store
   
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UK

 Kanluwen wrote:
 Paradigm wrote:
Yeah, those cover are poor. 5th I liked for the simplicity, 6th I really liked for the epicness. These are just dire, they'd better have sime kind of dust cover that doesn't double the cost. (yeah right)

On the plus side, I do like the fact I don't have to re-buy the gallery and fluff I bought 2 years ago.

You buy all three books as a "set" with a slipcase to store them in.
And that's why I should read the small print. Back to being cross with GW again. A single rulebook for around £30 and I'd have bought it. As it stands, probably not.

 
   
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 Sephyr wrote:
"Changed stuff over player feedback"?


WD doesn't say "player feedback", it says "feedback from thousands of games". It doesn't specify if this was after thousands of games of football, watched at the local bar by sales execs while coming up with new ways to generate commission.


   
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NoggintheNog wrote:
 Da Boss wrote:
No starter? Well, that's crap. I'm not paying full price for a GW rulebook, sadly, so it looks like I'm sitting this edition out until they release a rulebook that is better value.


Starters are never released with the new edition launch, at least for the last 3 or 4. A new starter, if it exists, is likely to appear August/September if they are sticking to previous schedules.


Or, we already have a starter. Dark Vengeance. Remember look forward to the White Dwarf to keep us informed what is going to happen.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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 oni wrote:
Spoiler:


WTF???

Does that cover with Urien Rakarth on it have "THE RULES" written on the spine?

Edit...
It does!

Ultramarine cover = "A Galaxy of War"
Helbrute cover = "Dark Millennium"
Urien Rakarth cover = "The Rules"

That's fething bull gak!

WORST COVER EVAR!


we do not have a photo of the slipcase yet.





I really dont get why people purposefully post small scans
   
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Yea was about to say, are there larger scans of these pages?

3000
4000 
   
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On the Internet

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Yea was about to say, are there larger scans of these pages?

I haven't found any yet.
   
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Raleigh, NC

50 Pounds? So that should translate rough to a $85 price-point, so about $10 more than the previous edition two years ago.

I'm sure it's got a bunch of additional (not necessarily new) content in the form of adding in the rules from Escalation and Stronghold, but it still feels like a cheap move. I'm going to hold off for a while on this one, maybe purchase the Rules-only portion on eBay at some point depending on how the edition goes. Can't say I'm personally too excited about the update, there are some good and bad things, but it feels like GW is testing the drop-off point in customer purchases for product lifespan, and I'd rather not encourage further testing.

EDIT RE Scans: Maybe GW is leaking these pictures, but to punish us for being inquisitive they've shrunk them down so they can laugh at the fact that we're all squinting at the pages.

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Northampton

Loving the Battletech reference there Anpu, but I wouldn't say that 6th brought out the most broken units.

That dishonour is all 5th ed.

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Frostgrave

At least the split books is a good thing; less crap to carry.

Not that I want to pay £40 to immediately dump 2 of the 3 books into the recycling (cos I won't be able to even give them away).
   
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GW being GW, they will never sell the books individually.

However, at least GW arent complete douchenozzles this time around, and the idea of splitting the core BRB into 3 individual parts is GOOD IDEA as this means you no longer have to lug a 500 page hardback around to every game.

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40K is like a beloved grandparent that is slowly falling into dementia and the rest of the family is in denial about how bad it is.
squidhills wrote:
GW is scared of girls. Why do you think they have so much trouble sculpting attractive female models? Because girls have cooties and the staff at GW don't like looking at them for too long because it makes them feel funny in their naughty place.
 
   
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Montreal, Quebec

 xttz wrote:
 Sephyr wrote:
"Changed stuff over player feedback"?


WD doesn't say "player feedback", it says "feedback from thousands of games". It doesn't specify if this was after thousands of games of football, watched at the local bar by sales execs while coming up with new ways to generate commission.




LOL, wow, thanks for making me laugh out loud for real!

I think that, come september, we'll have a new starter set.

Who knows, there might be a huge amout of DV still on the shelves and they might have decided to milk the boxes for more money by repackaging them with the new rule book. If the endeavour of doing so is profitable, I would do it.
So it gives them a full 3 or 4 months of rentability with some modifications with the box.

On a side note, I also like the spit of the book in three parts.

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* I have to say that NewGW impresses me a lot... 
   
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 Accolade wrote:
EDIT RE Scans: Maybe GW is leaking these pictures, but to punish us for being inquisitive they've shrunk them down so they can laugh at the fact that we're all squinting at the pages.

I almost did a spit take reading that!
   
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 Accolade wrote:
50 Pounds? So that should translate rough to a $85 price-point, so about $10 more than the previous edition two years ago.

I'm sure it's got a bunch of additional (not necessarily new) content in the form of adding in the rules from Escalation and Stronghold, but it still feels like a cheap move.


Well considering that the 6th edition rules are around 150 pages, the extra 50 probably come from the Escalation, SA, Daemonology/psychic phase and Battle Forced / Unbound additions.

2000 l 2000 l 2000 l 1500 l 1000 l 1000 l Blood Ravens (using Ravenguard CT) 1500 l 1500 l
Eldar tactica l Black Templars tactica l Tau tactica l Astra Militarum codex summary l 7th ed summary l Tutorial: Hinged Land Raider doors (easy!) l My blog: High Gothic Musings
 Ravenous D wrote:
40K is like a beloved grandparent that is slowly falling into dementia and the rest of the family is in denial about how bad it is.
squidhills wrote:
GW is scared of girls. Why do you think they have so much trouble sculpting attractive female models? Because girls have cooties and the staff at GW don't like looking at them for too long because it makes them feel funny in their naughty place.
 
   
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$80 buck American? So that will be $110 Canadian. This is a great deal. I mean the codex is $60, so for only $50 bucks more I am getting so much more. This is a great deal. 100 pages for a $60 codex but double the price we are getting what, triple the pages?

Ok now, so now we have to pay for a Hard Copy of Visions now? Really? Damn, GW is trolling us good.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Nasty Nob






Well, that Urien Rakarth picture is a huge letdown after the lovely interior design. I was hoping for something nice and abstract.

I think I'd buy the background book as well as the rules if they were available separately. The only one I have no interest in whatsoever is the 'hobby' one.

I hope that there will be a limited edition or something of the rulebook with a different cover.

   
 
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