40k 7th Edition release 24th may - All info in 1st post, psychic power cards added (5/21)

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**Brometheus**

Just a note for everyone... When 6th was released, there was a chart in the Psychic Card deck saying who could take which Discipline (like in the leaks), nothing in the actual rulebook, and a chart in the WD.

I bet the chart for 7th will be in the WD, for people without the deck. FAQs may follow

**Thud**

MarkyMark wrote:
To deny the witch, you need to nullify all fo the warp charge points that were successfully harnessed by the pysker when he passed his test

So if I cast a power and roll 5 4+ you need to deny 5 times.

To make a deny the witch, select one of your units that was the target of the enemys psyhic power. You will then need to expand a number of warp charges, declare how many you will spend and remove them from your pool and roll them, apply any of the following

Additions are
The target unit contains pysker (inc piliot brotherhood etc)

ML greater then the pysker manifesting the power

Adamanitum will

To deny the witch on a blessing, or something which doesnt target one of your units, it is a stright 6 needed, no modifers

Just one straight six for blessings, or more depending on warp charges/successes?

**MarkyMark**

Interceptor is the same

**rryannn**

Davor wrote:
Wilson wrote:
rryannn wrote:
MarkyMark wrote:

Something chew just asked, it is indeed correct IC's cannot join units that contain MCs or vehicles....
[/spoiler]

RIP O'vesa Star.

As a tau player I'm real happy about this! Hopefully others will stop giving tau players a bad name!

Only people who have to win with plastic toy soldiers, gave Tau a bad name. Win at all cost. Be interesting to see how many Tau toys will be on eBay in the upcoming weeks.

The sale of all these riptides will drive up the number of all riptide unbound armies!!! Is it better or worse????

**WrentheFaceless**

MarkyMark wrote:
WrentheFaceless wrote:
MarkyMark wrote:
Ok then d weapons.

1 nothing happens

2 -5, vehicles suffer penerating hit which causes d3 HP's
Models suffer auto wound and d3 wounds

6 vehicles, pen hit, d6+6 HP's
Models, auto wound d6+6 wounds, no saves of any kind

What kindof saves does 2-5 get?

normal saves as per the AP of the weapon. No mention of ignores cover.

Thanks, looks like invuln/cover it is, as I'm not aware of a D weapon that doesnt at least have AP2

**MarkyMark**

Thud wrote:
MarkyMark wrote:
To deny the witch, you need to nullify all fo the warp charge points that were successfully harnessed by the pysker when he passed his test

So if I cast a power and roll 5 4+ you need to deny 5 times.

To make a deny the witch, select one of your units that was the target of the enemys psyhic power. You will then need to expand a number of warp charges, declare how many you will spend and remove them from your pool and roll them, apply any of the following

Additions are
The target unit contains pysker (inc piliot brotherhood etc)

ML greater then the pysker manifesting the power

Adamanitum will

To deny the witch on a blessing, or something which doesnt target one of your units, it is a stright 6 needed, no modifers

Just one straight six for blessings, or more depending on warp charges/successes?

See the first line, a 6 for each warp charge he got a 4+ on,. so 5 4+'s you will need 5 6's

**Desubot**

Not bad about the D-weapons and DTW.

So its possible to put all your eggs in 1 basket when it realllly counts.

**rryannn**

Brometheus wrote:
Just a note for everyone... When 6th was released, there was a chart in the Psychic Card deck saying who could take which Discipline (like in the leaks), nothing in the actual rulebook, and a chart in the WD.

I bet the chart for 7th will be in the WD, for people without the deck. FAQs may follow

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/596034.page

**tetrisphreak**

MarkyMark wrote:
To deny the witch, you need to nullify all fo the warp charge points that were successfully harnessed by the pysker when he passed his test

So if I cast a power and roll 5 4+ you need to deny 5 times.

To make a deny the witch, select one of your units that was the target of the enemys psyhic power. You will then need to expand a number of warp charges, declare how many you will spend and remove them from your pool and roll them, apply any of the following

Additions are
The target unit contains pysker (inc piliot brotherhood etc)

ML greater then the pysker manifesting the power

Adamanitum will

To deny the witch on a blessing, or something which doesnt target one of your units, it is a stright 6 needed, no modifers

Very clear. Thanks. Looks like blessings will be super hard to stop (but at least there is a chance now).

**col_impact**

Markymark, check to see if there are changes to JUMP infantry.

**MarkyMark**

Wilson wrote:
MarkyMark wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Would I be right in saying that everyone's had their available psychic powers changed around a little bit... except for 'Nids who still get nothing?

I have yet to find who can take what!

Smash 1 attack?

Are dedicated transports for troops choices objective secured?

Any change to interceptor?

It seems DT's are troops in that regard

**Tyfus**

Is desperat allies the same ? Anything said about scoring troops from desperate allies ?

**tetrisphreak**

Cover saves from D-weapons?

**Wilson**

rryannn wrote:
Davor wrote:
Wilson wrote:
rryannn wrote:
MarkyMark wrote:

Something chew just asked, it is indeed correct IC's cannot join units that contain MCs or vehicles....
[/spoiler]

RIP O'vesa Star.

As a tau player I'm real happy about this! Hopefully others will stop giving tau players a bad name!

Only people who have to win with plastic toy soldiers, gave Tau a bad name. Win at all cost. Be interesting to see how many Tau toys will be on eBay in the upcoming weeks.

The sale of all these riptides will drive up the number of all riptide unbound armies!!! Is it better or worse????

Thankfully none of are friends are total douche bags so I won't have to suffer the douchery of 9 riptides / hell drakes / demon princes / insert cool / bogus unit here

**Syphid**

xttz wrote:
Syphid wrote:
Have the warlord trait tables changed?

These were posted earlier:

warlord traits are:

Skilled fighter:
1. the warlord has the counter attack special rule.
2. the warlord has the furious charge special rule.
3. the warlord hase the outflank special rule.
4. the warlord gains 1 victory point for each charactermodell he kills in a challenge.
5. the warlord has the feel no pain special rule.
6.the warlord has the fearless and it will not die special rule.

Skilled Leader:
1. all allied units within 12" can use the warlords LD.
2. all enemys within 12" of the warlord have to use the lowest LD.
3.the warlord and all friendly units within 12" of the warlord have the move through cover special rule.
4. the warlord and all friendly units within 12" add +1" on run and assault moves.
5. the warlord and all friendly units within 12" reroll failed to hit rolls of 1 in the shooting phase.
6. the warlord and all friendly units within 12" reroll failed to hit rolls of 1 in the assault phase.

Skilled Tactican:
1.as long as your warlord is alive you can discard 2 mission objectives per turn instead of 1.
2. one use only: declare at the end of one of your turns. if you declare the warlord trait your enemy has to discard one random mission objective of his.
3.obtain a additional mission objective at the start of your first turn.
4. when declaring mission objectives in your first turn you can select to discard up to all your mission objectives and draw new ones.
5.as long as your warlord is alive you can reroll the victory point result that you get for each mission objective archived.
6. for all tactical secured tactical mission objectives x (x is 1-6) you archive you gain a additional victory point.

There's an entire table that's useless if you aren't playing Maelstrom of War?

**MarkyMark**

col_impact wrote:
Markymark, check to see if there are changes to JUMP infantry.

Jet pack is the same so is jump pack

**oraj**

MarkyMark, you are a god amongst men.

Is there any changes to flyers? Do you fire snap shots at them?

**MarkyMark**

No changes to them I have seen bar the ones mentioned before (immobilised)

**col_impact**

MarkyMark wrote:
col_impact wrote:
Markymark, check to see if there are changes to JUMP infantry.

Jet pack is the same so is jump pack

Jump infantry were rumored to have the ability to use jump pack in movement and assault and to have the ability to jink. So that is a false rumor?

**Drakmord**

Thank you very much for all this info; have Heavy vehicles or Ordnance weapons changed at all?

**MarkyMark**

No its one or the other (move or assault), no jink

**Davor**

rryannn wrote:
Davor wrote:
Wilson wrote:
rryannn wrote:
MarkyMark wrote:

Something chew just asked, it is indeed correct IC's cannot join units that contain MCs or vehicles....
[/spoiler]

RIP O'vesa Star.

As a tau player I'm real happy about this! Hopefully others will stop giving tau players a bad name!

Only people who have to win with plastic toy soldiers, gave Tau a bad name. Win at all cost. Be interesting to see how many Tau toys will be on eBay in the upcoming weeks.

The sale of all these riptides will drive up the number of all riptide unbound armies!!! Is it better or worse????

I guess it all depends on if the community players ignore unbound lists like 2 FOC shenanigans or random terrain. You are right could be worse.

**H.B.M.C.**

Garion wrote:

I guess all those people chirping about how WD lies and that they were only test games and there's no way Dark Angels will be able to summon Daemons can all go and suck it now.

Everyone can summon Daemons, except Grey Knights (well, and Tyranids, because feth Tyranids, amirite?). I think people should make a point of playing Eldar and summoning nothing but Slaaneshi Daemons. Oh God FORGE that narrative!

**WrentheFaceless**

Well you can ally with yourself in Battle-forged lists and take detatchments, so we havent seen the last of multiple riptides yet...

**xttz**

Can you ally with yourself? I'm sure I saw earlier that an Allied Detachment can't be from the same Faction.

**oraj**

Has open topped and skilled rider changed at all?

**MarkyMark**

You can take as many FOC's as you want as long as you meet the min requirements.

**SarisKhan**

I wonder how re-rolls of failed psychic tests work. Do they allow you to re-roll all of the dice you used for a spell?

**Mr Morden**

MarkyMark wrote:
Wilson wrote:
MarkyMark wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Would I be right in saying that everyone's had their available psychic powers changed around a little bit... except for 'Nids who still get nothing?

I have yet to find who can take what!

Smash 1 attack?

Are dedicated transports for troops choices objective secured?

Any change to interceptor?

It seems DT's are troops in that regard

Oh good another boost for Cheese Serpents

**MarkyMark**

Assuming you mean tiggy, no mention of it, nor ghost helms for that matter.