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 Lord Yayula wrote:
Has the exact wording for the excess wounds on challenges been leaked? I'm very interested in knowing if "wounds pass unto the unit" means as in actual wounds or just for combat resolution.

Actual wounds.

It would seem the idea of dropzone gets more and more apealing as all the confirmations trickle in.



I'm still trying to wrap my head around not just scoring drop pods, but mega scoring drop pods. Crack is cheap in the uk I take it.

This may be a dense question, but if Unbound troops can't deny objectives - any Battleforged unit has the ability to cap that objective by jumping on it - correct? (Since all units score now)

Objective Secured seems to me to only be pertinent to games of BF v BF, in which troops gain this ability over other scoring units.

Angelic wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
Unless I am missing something, will basically every psychic power in each codex be unplayable in 7th until we know how many 'Warp Charges' it takes to cast it?

Everything in the old books already has a Warp Charge to cast. No FAQ needed there. The difference his how you generate them. Before it was 1 per ML. Now its 1 per 4+ on die used. FAQ's will be needed for some of the items though, like Bones of Osrak, Runes of Witnessing and Spirit Stone.

So for example every single power in the GK codex is Warp Charge 1? Including Vortex of Doom?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Sir Arun wrote:
Great.. So Wyrdvane Psykers became even more useless even though the AM codex was written 1 month before 7th ed.

Warpcharge token generators, and they'll have two powers now.

Isnt Brotherhood of Psykers just 1 psyker? And AFAIK Wyrdvane Psykers are Mastery Level 1, so thats just 1 extra dice and 1 power

 Idolator wrote:
Over on another thread, there was some discussion on the possibility of purchasing just the rules by themselves at some future date.

I figure that if GW was planning to do this, that they would have placed a bar code/sku on the backs of each individual book in the set of three. Is there anyone out there with access to the books that could check on this for me?

The only reason to place these on the back, as far as I can tell, would be for the purpose of possible individual sale. It would also allow for the company to create a revenue stream from those that didn't/couldn't spend the larger sum for the three book release without having to do any additional work or printing.

Someone please check. I will love you forever.

Sorry no barcode.

 Sir Arun wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Sir Arun wrote:
Great.. So Wyrdvane Psykers became even more useless even though the AM codex was written 1 month before 7th ed.

Warpcharge token generators, and they'll have two powers now.

Isnt Brotherhood of Psykers just 1 psyker? And AFAIK Wyrdvane Psykers are Mastery Level 1, so thats just 1 extra dice and 1 power

1 dice, 1 power, plus the primaris from that discipline thanks to "psychic focus"

How is FNP working in this edition?

Do you get a flat bonus if you combine the items that give it or is it a "you get what have in the stat" kinda thing?

For example... Do you get a bonus to a IH CM with the Chain and an Apothecary and the Warlord Trait and the Biomancy spell?

Or is it just 6+.

Would someone with the book be willing to take a moment to talk about the eternal war missions? Are they the same?

BeeCee wrote:
Would someone with the book be willing to take a moment to talk about the eternal war missions? Are they the same?

White Dwarf and Jarvis video both said they would be unchanged.


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Puscifer wrote:
How is FNP working in this edition?

Do you get a flat bonus if you combine the items that give it or is it a "you get what have in the stat" kinda thing?

For example... Do you get a bonus to a IH CM with the Chain and an Apothecary and the Warlord Trait and the Biomancy spell?

Or is it just 6+.

Some of that will be in the FAQ. In the BRB FNP is unchanged.

tag8833 wrote:

BeeCee wrote:
Would someone with the book be willing to take a moment to talk about the eternal war missions? Are they the same?

White Dwarf and Jarvis video both said they would be unchanged.


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Puscifer wrote:
How is FNP working in this edition?

Do you get a flat bonus if you combine the items that give it or is it a "you get what have in the stat" kinda thing?

For example... Do you get a bonus to a IH CM with the Chain and an Apothecary and the Warlord Trait and the Biomancy spell?

Or is it just 6+.

Some of that will be in the FAQ. In the BRB FNP is unchanged.

If it's unchanged, then that's a good thing.

Do Fast Attack and Heavy Support units get "Objective Secured" in The Scouring and Big Guns Never Tire respectively?

 Eldarain wrote:
Do Fast Attack and Heavy Support units get "Objective Secured" in The Scouring and Big Guns Never Tire respectively?

Nope, just 1 VP for each one killed (fa scoring, hs big guns etc).

I am now sat looking at this £40 set of books and I have the worst buyers remorse :(

MarkyMark,

I know you've been asked the same question multiple times about 1300 times in the past 18 hours but will you indulge me.

I am not quite clear on Vector Strike. Kirby was reporting that FMCs still get d3 vector strike hits but i remember you saying it was 1 but d3 vs flyers/swooping MCs?

Would it be possible for a copy paste of the VS rules?

SeanDrake wrote:
I am now sat looking at this £40 set of books and I have the worst buyers remorse :(

Return it. That's what I did with my Tyranids when I saw the codex. Walked right into my GW store and said "I'd like to return this $250 worth of stuff". Manager: "Seriously?". Me: "Yep".

Last time I was in a GW store.

MarkyMark wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Do Fast Attack and Heavy Support units get "Objective Secured" in The Scouring and Big Guns Never Tire respectively?

Nope, just 1 VP for each one killed (fa scoring, hs big guns etc).

SeanDrake wrote:I am now sat looking at this £40 set of books and I have the worst buyers remorse :(

Hate to bother with these two questions. Does the assault section of the book describe what can ignore the attacking at I1 penalty?(ex. Move Through Cover)
Are Assault Grenades different? Do they ignore the movement penalty?

Are grenades still 1/per squad when thrown? Do fortifications have the same deathtrap damage chart as before?

I hate to ask a version of a question that I'm pretty confident has already been answered adequately, multiple times, but I'm trying to cover my bases for a game on saturday and I'm not sure I'll be able to read the rulebook before then.

I'd like to be sure my list is legally constructed.

So, if my opponent and I are playing battle-forged armies, I am 100%, without-a-doubt allowed to draw my units from multiple FOC charts so long as I meet the minimum 1x HQ, 2x Troops requirements for each chart?

So if I'm planning to field 2x Hive Tyrants and at least 4x squads of Gaunts, I'll be allowed to expand to 6x selections from Elites, FA, and Heavy?

There's a local shop who often breaks street date on GW stuff, so I have a chance of looking at the book tomorrow, but I don't wanna show up with an illegal list on saturday. : /

 Altruizine wrote:
I hate to ask a version of a question that I'm pretty confident has already been answered adequately, multiple times, but I'm trying to cover my bases for a game on saturday and I'm not sure I'll be able to read the rulebook before then.

I'd like to be sure my list is legally constructed.

So, if my opponent and I are playing battle-forged armies, I am 100%, without-a-doubt allowed to draw my units from multiple FOC charts so long as I meet the minimum 1x HQ, 2x Troops requirements for each chart?

So if I'm planning to field 2x Hive Tyrants and at least 4x squads of Gaunts, I'll be allowed to expand to 6x selections from Elites, FA, and Heavy?

There's a local shop who often breaks street date on GW stuff, so I have a chance of looking at the book tomorrow, but I don't wanna show up with an illegal list on saturday. : /

that is correct!

BeeCee wrote:

 Altruizine wrote:
I hate to ask a version of a question that I'm pretty confident has already been answered adequately, multiple times, but I'm trying to cover my bases for a game on saturday and I'm not sure I'll be able to read the rulebook before then.

I'd like to be sure my list is legally constructed.

So, if my opponent and I are playing battle-forged armies, I am 100%, without-a-doubt allowed to draw my units from multiple FOC charts so long as I meet the minimum 1x HQ, 2x Troops requirements for each chart?

So if I'm planning to field 2x Hive Tyrants and at least 4x squads of Gaunts, I'll be allowed to expand to 6x selections from Elites, FA, and Heavy?

There's a local shop who often breaks street date on GW stuff, so I have a chance of looking at the book tomorrow, but I don't wanna show up with an illegal list on saturday. : /

that is correct!

Yup. Just denote which hive tyrant is your warlord, which detachment is your primary, etc.

MadmanMSU wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
I am now sat looking at this £40 set of books and I have the worst buyers remorse :(

Return it. That's what I did with my Tyranids when I saw the codex. Walked right into my GW store and said "I'd like to return this $250 worth of stuff". Manager: "Seriously?". Me: "Yep".

Last time I was in a GW store.

I've seen this done in GW stores.

+1 for getting the manager to refund it.

BeeCee wrote:
MarkyMark,

I know you've been asked the same question multiple times about 1300 times in the past 18 hours but will you indulge me.

I am not quite clear on Vector Strike. Kirby was reporting that FMCs still get d3 vector strike hits but i remember you saying it was 1 but d3 vs flyers/swooping MCs?

Would it be possible for a copy paste of the VS rules?

Ok VS rules


When swooping or zooming, this model may savage its prey. At the end of the movement phase nominate one enemy unit not locked in combat that the model has moved over that turn. That unit takes 1 hit (if the unit is an enemy flyer in zoom mode, or and enemy swooping flying MC, it instead takes d3 hits). Unless stated otherwise vector strikes are resolved at the models unmodifed str and ap2 using random allocation. These hits have the ignores cover (it then goes on the say VS doesnt benefit from other special ryles and that it counts as firing a weapon).


Heldrakes will still be str8 ap3 though.

Marky Mark.

May I ask a question.

The psyker cards have all the Powers in the rule book ticked as available to the Astra militarum. However in the codex, our psykers can only access a few select ones.

Is there are section in the book that changes this? Or are the cards in conflict with the codex for now?

Cheers.

 Sir Arun wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Sir Arun wrote:
Great.. So Wyrdvane Psykers became even more useless even though the AM codex was written 1 month before 7th ed.

Warpcharge token generators, and they'll have two powers now.

Isnt Brotherhood of Psykers just 1 psyker? And AFAIK Wyrdvane Psykers are Mastery Level 1, so thats just 1 extra dice and 1 power

If you take all your powers from a single school you get the Primaris free. So two powers.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

 spartanlegion wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Battlesong wrote:

 N.I.B. wrote:
Hive Crone, meet shelf.

Tyranids, meet shelf.....

Game, meet shelf.

Game meet Ebay -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2k-pro-painted-astra-militarum-forgeworld-death-korps-of-krieg-army-case-codex-/281342932237?pt=Games_US&hash=item418158750d

Exalted and also following this lead:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-AM-IG-Big-Lot-/321412488446?

OK... Auctions for Armies on eBay have shot up.

I'm seeing more than usual.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Nope. Get behind walls, other models (25% obscured necessary) or bring a venomthrope along.

So, how do forests work, now?

There is nothing in the BRB to say what powers you get, it states this is found in your codex. The card thing is pretty crap, for example Space mairnes have divination ticked, but only tiggy can access divination from the SM codex.

For daemons, tzeentch heralds and GD can access divination, nurgle biomancy, slaanesh telepathy, princes bio telekinese and telepathy, Fatey all of them. So while the ticks may be correct OVERALL they do not replace what is found in your codex. (unless you have old codex in which case hope for a faq).

Darn. Cheers

Puscifer wrote:

MadmanMSU wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
I am now sat looking at this £40 set of books and I have the worst buyers remorse :(

Return it. That's what I did with my Tyranids when I saw the codex. Walked right into my GW store and said "I'd like to return this $250 worth of stuff". Manager: "Seriously?". Me: "Yep".

Last time I was in a GW store.

I've seen this done in GW stores.

+1 for getting the manager to refund it.

The actual version was a bit more comical. The above is true, but was a one sentence shortened version. What actually happened was that I pre-ordered all the stuff. However, I made a deal with an old GW manager friend (who still has contacts), to give him some of my old Blood Angel stuff for a free Tyranids codex. Codex arrived on a Wednesday. So after going through it thoroughly, I go to the GW store on Saturday to pick up all my stuff. It's release day, so there's a few more people in there than usual. I walk up to the register:

Me: "Hi, I pre-ordered all my stuff, is it in today?"
Manager: "Yep, right here"
*Grabs a large box full of the shrink-wrapped, new models and hands it to me*
Me: "Awesome!"
*Hands box back to manager*
Me: "I'd like to return these please."
*At this point everyone in the store literally has stopped talking and is just staring at me*
*long pause*
Manager: "Seriously?"
Me: "Yes"
*I drop a mic, put on my shades, and walk out*