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Will a new Dynasty arise from the North West?

Or Will Brady cement his legacy among guys like Montana and Bradshaw?

Are we waiting for some Patriot Deflate-gate?

Anyhoo... go Seachickens!

Typical Belachick shenanigans.

 Byte wrote:
Typical Belachick shenanigans.

Well... we do know he's a cheater.

But.... how in the hell that would be an advantage for the Patriots? Don't both teams play the same batch of balls?

 whembly wrote:

But.... how in the hell that would be an advantage for the Patriots? Don't both teams play the same batch of balls?

No. Each team uses the balls they provide.

This is such a joke. And everyone making a big deal of it are pathetic and will find any reason to hate a team. Under inflated balls have a negative effect on everything. Why do you think the NFL came down on the Vikings and panthers for warming up footballs during they're game? Where were you all during this? #sourgrapes
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000437309/article/nfl-to-remind-teams-not-to-warm-footballs

Besides who would have thought when the temperature drops 10 degrees during the game a football might lose some pressure naturally.

PATRIOTS ARE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WHINE SO GIVE ME YOUR TEARS GYPSIES ;p



Edit:also I didn't realize under inflated footballs allowed the patriots to gash the colts running the football. Less psi must make the balls lighter and the running backs faster I guess?

You know, I've said this so many times but no one seems to agree for some reason.

A 3 game series will go a long way to removing the doubt from anyones mind.

I honestly don't know how you can expect a legitimate competition of skills to be conducted from one game. So many things can go wrong that determines so much. Ref's make bad calls. QB could slip on a vital play. Any number of things could take place that will steal a game away, and end someones season.

A three game series would eliminate that. So what if players have to play more then once a week in that case. In my eyes at least, it would just go and prove even more that the winning team is more deserving.

 dogma wrote:

 whembly wrote:

But.... how in the hell that would be an advantage for the Patriots? Don't both teams play the same batch of balls?

No. Each team uses the balls they provide.

Huh... I didn't know that.

Even then... and I can't believe I'm sorta defending the Patriots... but if true, so what? It's not like a spitball.


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Chancetragedy wrote:
This is such a joke. And everyone making a big deal of it are pathetic and will find any reason to hate a team. Under inflated balls have a negative effect on everything. Why do you think the NFL came down on the Vikings and panthers for warming up footballs during they're game? Where were you all during this? #sourgrapes
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000437309/article/nfl-to-remind-teams-not-to-warm-footballs

Besides who would have thought when the temperature drops 10 degrees during the game a football might lose some pressure naturally.

PATRIOTS ARE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WHINE SO GIVE ME YOUR TEARS GYPSIES ;p



Edit:also I didn't realize under inflated footballs allowed the patriots to gash the colts running the football. Less psi must make the balls lighter and the running backs faster I guess?

Chance... yeah, I have sourgrapes over the Patriots win of the Rams in 2002. Will nevah forgive 'em for that.

But, the most damning, imo, was when backup Flutie in 2005 (I think...) picked up Brady's helmet and used it accidently. He realized that the OC was still talking after the 15 second mark.

In any event... I just want a good game and I'll be cheering on the Seachickens.

Yah also the teams do not have control of the balls after they submit them to the referees prior to the game. The home team has to provide 36 balls for outdoor, 24 for Indoors game and a pump. Then they submit them to the referees who hold onto them until they're turned over to the ball boys and such. This whole thing started by bob kravitz a INDY REPORTER. Sour grapes? Yup

Chancetragedy wrote:
Yah also the teams do not have control of the balls after they submit them to the referees prior to the game. The home team has to provide 36 balls for outdoor, 24 for Indoors game and a pump. Then they submit them to the referees who hold onto them until they're turned over to the ball boys and such. This whole thing started by bob kravitz a INDY REPORTER. Sour grapes? Yup

Yeah. Every site I have seen this on all goes back to Kravitz's 3 tweets. Nothing official, just an Indy reporter making 3 tweets.

But because it's on Twitter it must be true.

It's on NFL.com rivenskull. But I guarantee it's going to turn out exactly like "confusing formationgate" with nothing happening because it's a non issue that got blown up by a bitter colts reporter.

Chancetragedy wrote:
It's on NFL.com rivenskull. But I guarantee it's going to turn out exactly like "confusing formationgate" with nothing happening because it's a non issue that got blown up by a bitter colts reporter.

The potential fallout is that NE could lose draft picks if they did break the rule

It's almost like proven cheaters don't get the benefit of the doubt when faced with allegations of cheating.

 djones520 wrote:
You know, I've said this so many times but no one seems to agree for some reason.

A 3 game series will go a long way to removing the doubt from anyones mind.

I honestly don't know how you can expect a legitimate competition of skills to be conducted from one game. So many things can go wrong that determines so much. Ref's make bad calls. QB could slip on a vital play. Any number of things could take place that will steal a game away, and end someones season.

A three game series would eliminate that. So what if players have to play more then once a week in that case. In my eyes at least, it would just go and prove even more that the winning team is more deserving.

Do you realize just how much punishment and damage a player's body goes through in a game? And you're asking them to potentially triple that, with LESS resting time?

Chancetragedy wrote:
Yah also the teams do not have control of the balls after they submit them to the referees prior to the game.

That's false. The home team must submit a set of balls for inspection prior to the game, but they regain control after that.

 djones520 wrote:
So what if players have to play more then once a week in that case.

Have you ever played football? Like, really played, not Pop Warner or high school, but collegiate or above?

Playing a three game series where more than one game could be played in a week would be a physical nightmare. Hell, its already a nightmare in Union where people pull up because they generally lack pads.

 dogma wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:
Yah also the teams do not have control of the balls after they submit them to the referees prior to the game.

That's false. The home team must submit a set of balls for inspection prior to the game, but they regain control after that.

 djones520 wrote:
So what if players have to play more then once a week in that case.

Have you ever played football? Like, really played, not Pop Warner or high school, but collegiate or above?

Playing a three game series where more than one game could be played in a week would be a physical nightmare. Hell, its already a nightmare in Union where people pull up because they generally lack pads.

what I posted is not false. They submit them to the refs then only gain control right before the game.
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/5_2013_Ball.pdf

Chancetragedy wrote:

what I posted is not false. They submit them to the refs then only gain control right before the game.
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/5_2013_Ball.pdf

Yes, it is, and your citation confirms as much.

 dogma wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:

what I posted is not false. They submit them to the refs then only gain control right before the game.
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/5_2013_Ball.pdf

Yes, it is, and your citation confirms as much.

You read it right?

"The Referee shall be the sole judge as to whether all balls offered for play comply with these specifications. A pump is to be furnished by the home club, and the balls shall remain under the supervision of the Referee until they are delivered to the ball attendant just prior to the start of the game."

So where was I wrong?

This gak is crazy.

Since I still havent seen anything on it... Im beginning to wonder of the League saw Marshawn's little "gesture" when he crossed the goal line??

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Since I still havent seen anything on it... Im beginning to wonder of the League saw Marshawn's little "gesture" when he crossed the goal line??

He has a history of doing that. I think they're trying to ignore it.

Everyone's too busy trying to bury the patriots to remember to hold it ;p


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Also to bring some levity in this trying time of persecutio and holding of D'sn. This has been lost but big Vince wikfork helping out in a BIG way.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2015/01/police_good_samaritan_vince_wilfork_pulled_woman_out_of_rt_1

Well that has made zero national attention. Wow.

Finally made it onto NFL.com a few minutes ago but yah. No attention really.

Also ensis what's the word on Sherman and Thomas's injuries? I know they played the rest of the game and Sherman has a sprained elbow but is there any chatter about it?

Chancetragedy wrote:
Finally made it onto NFL.com a few minutes ago but yah. No attention really.

Also ensis what's the word on Sherman and Thomas's injuries? I know they played the rest of the game and Sherman has a sprained elbow but is there any chatter about it?

My local TV news just teased the "Patriots cheating scandal" after the commercials. Good grief.

The Wilfork story just popped in the Yahoo tickler.

Yah apparently I can't even enjoy forums and sports talk anymore. Even after a win in which my team makes the Super Bowl and looks ridiculously good in doing so. All I get to hear about is wahwahwah think of the footballs. Deflating footballs"allegedly(the loosest definition of allegedly)" didn't affect the outcome of that game one iota. And it all just reeks of bitterness. I get it your team got blown out on the biggest stage that's rough. I sat through 18-1 I sat through a 16 point playoff collapse to Peyton manning, I've sat through a 96 Super Bowl that had our head coach checking out ahead of time. But let's not go this route Jesus. You know what's gonna happen when the NFL comes out and says the pats did nothing wrong? Nothing everyone is going to assume the team cheated lol. Can't win even if you win.

At least Brady gets respect. Flacco never does, or ever will. My team is the perennial underdog. At least the Pats are considered elite and get that respect.

The Ravens are treated like scrubs and get the "how cute, they're trying hard".

 Byte wrote:
At least Brady gets respect. Flacco never does, or ever will. My team is the perennial underdog. At least the Pats are considered elite and get that respect.

The Ravens are treated like scrubs and get the "how cute, they're trying hard".

You sure about that?



Not that he'd care... just look at his significant other and his bank account.

 whembly wrote:

 Byte wrote:
At least Brady gets respect. Flacco never does, or ever will. My team is the perennial underdog. At least the Pats are considered elite and get that respect.

The Ravens are treated like scrubs and get the "how cute, they're trying hard".

You sure about that?



Not that he'd care... just look at his significant other and his bank account.

HA! I still get a chuckle out of that, thanks.

Chancetragedy wrote:


Also ensis what's the word on Sherman and Thomas's injuries? I know they played the rest of the game and Sherman has a sprained elbow but is there any chatter about it?

So far, both are being listed as 100% playing... Sherman did indeed sprain something in his arm/elbow area, while Thomas actually dislocated his shoulder. Thus far, he's had no issues with it since they reset it... so we're hoping that he'll be good to go