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Why are you completely ignoring the part of the post where I said that already? you can selectively edit all you want but you clearly didn't read what I wrote...
djones520 wrote: You know, I've said this so many times but no one seems to agree for some reason.
A 3 game series will go a long way to removing the doubt from anyones mind.
I honestly don't know how you can expect a legitimate competition of skills to be conducted from one game. So many things can go wrong that determines so much. Ref's make bad calls. QB could slip on a vital play. Any number of things could take place that will steal a game away, and end someones season.
A three game series would eliminate that. So what if players have to play more then once a week in that case. In my eyes at least, it would just go and prove even more that the winning team is more deserving.
Do you realize just how much punishment and damage a player's body goes through in a game? And you're asking them to potentially triple that, with LESS resting time?
10 teeth to a speeding puck, back on the ice that game.
Hockey players take the punishment as well. Teams play 82+ games a season.
And I'm not making a "Hockey is better then Football" case here. I'm pointing out that saying physical punishment isn't a cop out. Big hits happen all the time in both sports that ruin peoples days.
We're talking determining who is the best in the league, and all post-season I've been hearing nothing but people scream about gak being stolen. It gets louder and louder every year. Well, if you want it fixed go for a change, get a true competition out of it.
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The bottom line is that football is considerably more damaging than hockey. While hockey has more than a good amount of big hits, football players get hit every single play, and many of them (particularly linemen) lead these hits with their head, while hockey hits tend to lead with the shoulder.
Plus there are far far more hits in the NFL than in hockey. A quick bit of googling and statistics checking generally has football games running between 57 and 70 plays per game on average. In each play, you have multiple hits from the linemen, plus any other defense or tackles that occur. Now compare it to hockey in the same year (2014) and there is an average of 15 - 32 hits per game. Not even close to the same amount.
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Chancetragedy wrote: Why are you completely ignoring the part of the post where I said that already? you can selectively edit all you want but you clearly didn't read what I wrote...
I'm not, and you didn't. I'm not selectively editing anything, the words I quoted are yours.
curran12 wrote: While hockey has more than a good amount of big hits, football players get hit every single play, and many of them (particularly linemen) lead these hits with their head, while hockey hits tend to lead with the shoulder.
The head is one of the three points of contact for defensive linemen, but they don't generally lead with it; that business is left to safeties, linebackers, and lead blockers.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Chancetragedy wrote: Yah also the teams do not have control of the balls after they submit them to the referees prior to the game. The home team has to provide 36 balls for outdoor, 24 for Indoors game and a pump. Then they submit them to the referees who hold onto them until they're turned over to the ball boys and such. This whole thing started by bob kravitz a INDY REPORTER. Sour grapes? Yup
I bolded the part you selectively ignored dogma. So where again was I wrong? Your saying I said something I didn't by selectively choosing a single sentence out of context. If you follow what I actually said you would see I said "they don't have control, until turned over to the ball boys" to which the citation I made states right before game time. So I don't understand what your getting at I guess ;p
I bolded the part you selectively ignored dogma. So where again was I wrong? Your saying I said something I didn't by selectively choosing a single sentence out of context. If you follow what I actually said you would see I said "they don't have control, until turned over to the ball boys" to which the citation I made states right before game time. So I don't understand what your getting at I guess ;p
Okay so, in context, you're saying that the Patriots had the opportunity to deflate their balls?
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
No, because at that point everything is out in the open in the stadium and it would be extremely tough for them to hide something like that. Your not thinking things through, just gotta use your brain to like an adult(tough as that is)and you'll be fine dogma. Keep being angry and bitter because your team is crap, it's ok we are here for you.
Does this mean that the Patriots get disqualified, vacate their AFC Championship, thus giving the Seahawks the Superbowl win?? Or do they vacate the Championship, thus giving the Colts the opportunity to get turned into glue in the superbowl?
In all seriousness, this could be very easy to explain away. If they use an electronic pump then the pressure gauge could be off by 2 pounds (It's definitely in the realm of possibility, since a fuel station in Germany's air pumps were 3 pounds off, resulting in my having to set them 3-4 pounds higher than what I wanted to get the air I needed)... Or they have a very weak intern who pumps the balls up (as someone who has put air into footballs as well as rugby balls, I go by the "mantra" that if it's not as hard as a rock, it doesn't have enough air in it)
IMO it's not that the Colts deserve to be there, it's that cheating needs to have consequences. If you cheat you shouldn't get the illegitimate rewards, and having to watch the super bowl on tv certainly teaches them a lesson.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
IMO it's not that the Colts deserve to be there, it's that cheating needs to have consequences. If you cheat you shouldn't get the illegitimate rewards, and having to watch the super bowl on tv certainly teaches them a lesson.
I agree, I just think that in the end the consequences are going to be fines and not loss of a Superbowl spot.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
IMO it's not that the Colts deserve to be there, it's that cheating needs to have consequences. If you cheat you shouldn't get the illegitimate rewards, and having to watch the super bowl on tv certainly teaches them a lesson.
I agree, I just think that in the end the consequences are going to be fines and not loss of a Superbowl spot.
Fines and draft picks, IMO. Keep in mind that Robert Kraft is also one of the favored owners. Cripes, look at Spygate...for a documented pattern of cheating going back years and possibly affecting Super Bowl results, they got a slap on the wrist and quick destruction of all the evidence. Goodell has shown time and time again that he'd much rather make issues "go away" than truly confront them and punish teams, especially those involving the owners he's closest to. See Rice, Ray.
I really don't know what's worse in this case -- the sheer arrogance of the Patriots organization, or their utter lack of integrity. It's disgusting.
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Wow... that's going to be an unfortunate storyline for the SB.
Why are we talking about vacating Patriot's AFC win? I thought the bylaws clearly spelled out the penalty... (fines and lost of draft picks if I remember right). Lemme see if I can find that rule.
They do Whembly. The vacating the win thing came from Wilbon and is now being parroted around the country by angry bitter people.
I will say this I don't really have a defense for this team anymore and will not be defending them against accusations of cheating. It's pretty clear they will attempt to gain any and all advantage they can. And you know what I think I'm pretty ok with that. This whole thing sucks and just puts an exclamation point on what I hate most about the 24 hour news cycle. There has been no confirmation of any of this(not that I'm defending they probably did do it). The whole thing sucks and really detracts from my experience as a fan(not really but kind of)
whembly wrote: Wow... that's going to be an unfortunate storyline for the SB.
Why are we talking about vacating Patriot's AFC win? I thought the bylaws clearly spelled out the penalty... (fines and lost of draft picks if I remember right). Lemme see if I can find that rule.
I made a half-arsed joke about it
@Chance... I honestly did not know Wilbon said it Though I agree with you on why this situation is so fethed up stupid and points out the worst aspects of 24 hour news
And honestly, as much as I HATE HATE HATE Brady, Belichick and the Patriots, I wouldn't want my Sehawks to face a lesser team in the SB... it just wouldn't have the same feeling when we crush the spirits of all the Brady fan-boys/girls
Chancetragedy wrote: They do Whembly. The vacating the win thing came from Wilbon and is now being parroted around the country by angry bitter people.
I will say this I don't really have a defense for this team anymore and will not be defending them against accusations of cheating. It's pretty clear they will attempt to gain any and all advantage they can. And you know what I think I'm pretty ok with that. This whole thing sucks and just puts an exclamation point on what I hate most about the 24 hour news cycle. There has been no confirmation of any of this(not that I'm defending they probably did do it). The whole thing sucks and really detracts from my experience as a fan(not really but kind of)
Hey man... coming from someone who absolutely hate the Patriots (stemming from spygate), I feel for you. I wanted to enjoy the SB for what it is and have a good game (and commercials!). But, now? ugh...
The sad thing is that the Patriots are a great team who don't need to push that envelope.
I mean... jesus, Brady with a healthy Gronk and Amendola (I still like that dude)... that's all she wrote!
Yah ensis I feel you. I always felt like it had to be Seahawks vs patriots that's the 2 best teams In the league and unlike the Broncos and Peyton the patriots aren't gonna choke on the moment and will actually make it a game. Can't wait till next Sunday!
And your post was clearly a joke, so don't think that comment was directed towards you.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Secondary thought here. You would think for someone who is considered a genius bellichick would be better at cheating. This is the second time he's been caught for doing something every other franchise in the NFL does.
But because the new commish at the time had to make an example spygate happened so now anything the patriots will be under scrutiny(with good reason but still).
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The NFL has already stated that should the allegations be true, then the penalty would be Draft Picks.
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This article does a good job summing things up. Long story short, other NFL teams are very wary of the Patriots and have been for years. The article didn't even mention some of the "technical difficulties" shenanigans with headsets, etc. that go on when teams visit Foxboro.
Here's the thing -- given that the penalty will be a slap on the wrist, Belichick will just go right on cheating. He's all about cost-benefit analysis, and clearly cheating is worth it given the light penalties you suffer if you're caught.
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Chancetragedy wrote: They do Whembly. The vacating the win thing came from Wilbon and is now being parroted around the country by angry bitter people.
I will say this I don't really have a defense for this team anymore and will not be defending them against accusations of cheating. It's pretty clear they will attempt to gain any and all advantage they can. And you know what I think I'm pretty ok with that.
Well, it's pretty cool that you've declared that you could care less about integrity. I sure won't be making any Swap Shop transactions with you.
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But.... how in the hell that would be an advantage for the Patriots? Don't both teams play the same batch of balls?
A little late: My understanding is that while both teams play with the same balls, a deflated ball has a benefit for a certain style of play. A deflated ball is easier to grip, which makes it easier for the receiver to catch. That means that it will be easier for both teams to catch the ball, but it will benefit a team that plays a passing offense more than it will a team that plays a rushing offense.
The downside is that a deflated ball behaves a little different when thrown, but if you know the ball is deflated you can adjust for that.
I haven't really followed college this year but what's so crazy about it? Besides maybe Jameis going #1 overall? Not being sarcastic generally interested because I'd be pumped if the patriots ended up with armstead.
Chancetragedy wrote: I haven't really followed college this year but what's so crazy about it? Besides maybe Jameis going #1 overall? Not being sarcastic generally interested because I'd be pumped if the patriots ended up with armstead.
It's just pretty basic mistakes, mariota falling to 18th to the chiefs (Who have alex smith & AJ mcCarron on the roster) past teams such as the Jets and the Titans, Raiders will more than likely go with an offensive pick, both Seattle and baltimore selecting RBs (Seattle even without Lynch have both Turbin and Michaels and Baltimore just signed Trestman as their OC as well as having forsett Pierce & potentially Rice) Lions selecting a DT, even assuming Suh does leave DB is still more of a pressing concern as is WR considering the injuries suffered and lack of production past Johnson &Tate, Bears selecting a 4-3 OLB despite just signing Vic Fangio (A 3-4 co-ordinater) Cardinals taking an ILB which isn't top of their propriety
Basically it boils down to lots of stupid errors which would be avoided with minimal research before writing.
Currently debating whether to study for my exams or paint some Deathwing
Though I agree with you on why this situation is so fethed up stupid and points out the worst aspects of 24 hour news 
