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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Funnily enough I think I under stand why the paladin challenge is so bad.

Turns out the Paladin really needs his staple cards to survive at all (Sword, equality, consecration)


Also he needs taunt cards. He is meant to buff cards as well. He doesn't need those three, he just really needs a taunt card. Or specifically that secret to activate during his turn.


Kel'thuzad runs tons of 4+ HP cards and he has many shockadin cards that can trade well with that level.

The problem is the buffing is so slow (6 mana for ooze/kings alone for something that's ineffective against a board full of 4/6's or sledge belchers holding them back)

Those three are his main 'trade' options, 4/2 trades with several of kel's cards, Equality is boss, and consecrate helps against a full board.


I think the slime is better for a priest deck.

Because thus far I have been unimpressed by the slime at all. I mean one of the bosses used it perfectly, by giving it a taunt ability and a stats boost. (So maybe druid would be the best use of that card.

Then there is the lack of board control cards, like a wild pyromancer, baron gaden, or you know a consecration. I built a better deck using kel'thuzad in one of my decks. Shesh. Actually if they put kel'thuzad in that deck. And you sacrificed your taunt cards GG


I think the only real good combo that would be effective in the meta is Druid, with Ooze + mark of the wild for 4 mana: 2 3/3's with taunt is favorable (compare Feral spirit, 1 card, but technically 5 mana)

Though priest might be a thing..They have far better cards to buff though.


True but all you got to do is the following. Save the coin play the slime +2 health + Double health + Inner Fire. Boom two 10/10s And then play a taunt card to finish it off next turn.

But agreed, Druid is more effective.

(Wait I thought the slime was 1/2, so it would be a 3/4. Which is actually pretty good)

And then just get a call of the wild and your done.

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(Wait I thought the slime was 1/2, so it would be a 3/4. Which is actually pretty good)


Whoops my bad, that is actually good.

The problem with the priest combo is that there's a number of ways of stopping it, the main issue being that it still requires 4+ cards to do, the top meta will murder you before you get the chance with Zoolocks, Miracle who won't care, control hunters dropping them down to 1 hp or popping deadly shot.

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Is anyone actually going for the cardbacks? I gave up after the first week. I gave up so easy!

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 Gitzbitah wrote:
Is anyone actually going for the cardbacks? I gave up after the first week. I gave up so easy!


Back when I heard Heroic Naxx was giving up gold cards, I was going to.

After they turned it to card backs because people complained, I thought no.
   
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 Gitzbitah wrote:
Is anyone actually going for the cardbacks? I gave up after the first week. I gave up so easy!

I might have a go once I've unlocked all the wings, but I don't imagine I'll have any fun doing so. As the wings have gone on, it seems Blizzard has fallen into the trap of trying to make Heroic difficult more than they're trying to make it enjoyable.

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Spoiler:

Killing people off with a 1/1 Murloc is fun.

I'm a Leper Gnome now, yay (?).

   
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Can anyone consistently (or even somewhat) play arena and break even in terms of gold allowing an (in theory) infinite amount of times and packs on dakka dakka

 
   
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Ards - N.Ireland

I do well in arena when play it, but do prefer just grinding quests then logging.

It is very possible to win games with basic cards, the link a few pages back shows prob the best basic only decks you can do.

Regarding quick gold to get started the best ones to aim for are:

First Blood- Complete a game in Play mode.- 1 card pack

The Duelist- Play 3 games in Play mode.- 100 gold

Level Up- Get any class to level 10.- 1 card pack

Crafting Time- Disenchant a card.- 95 arcane dust

Enter The Arena- Enter The Arena.- 1 Arena credit (and you should get some gold and a pack afterwards)

Ready to Go! Unlock every Hero. 100 gold

Crushed Them All! Defeat every Expert AI Hero. 100 gold

Got the Basics! Collect every card in the Basic Set. 100 gold


So you play and unlock each class vs the AI, then the classes vs players until lvl 10 for each (to get 10 gold from every 3 wins, and it gives more exp even if you lose), then when you have all of them to lvl 10 and have unlocked all the basic cards build a really solid basic's deck to take down all the expert Ai, this means by time all are lvl 10 you unlock all the basics, and have unlocked every hero, then go play a online game then arena for its freebie.

so 400 gold (then add more form the arena run, think it's least 100 off hand?) so lets say 500 gold.

lets say over all the classes you win 30 games just to be on low side that is another 300 gold

you also get 3 packs from doing all this unclocking and lvling.

so we're up to 800 gold, 3 packs, 95 arcane dust.

go and spend it all on packs, see what good cards you get then pick deck which can use them, craft the best basics deck (http://www.icy-veins.com/hearthstone/)

*note this site also has a decent load of good info to read on getting more gold, arena and such.

From there on you can farm single games and daily quests to get enough for arena then enter. means you get to practise your deck, get some experience then go into arena knowing some cards.

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>winning from a rogue
>Rogue summons Leeroy Jenkins and re-summons him twice.

:(

   
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I had my easiest win today. I heard the sound of victory even before the wheel had stopped spinning. I guess it must have been connectivity issues on my opponent's side.

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 The Dark Apostle wrote:
Can anyone consistently (or even somewhat) play arena and break even in terms of gold allowing an (in theory) infinite amount of times and packs on dakka dakka


Not completely even, but close to it. One of the tricks to it is to also build up a few quests and see what class would benefit most and use that class in arena so you can combine quests and arena. (I don't play every day)
   
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 thenoobbomb wrote:
>winning from a rogue
>Rogue summons Leeroy Jenkins and re-summons him twice.

:(

Yeah, that's Miracle Rogue - a deck designed around a win condition that at no point allows the opponent to interact with it - first with a Concealed Gadgetzan Auctioneer for card draw, then with Shadowstepped Leeroy Jenkins, Cold Bloods, etc to do 20+ damage from your hand.

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
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Aaaaaand Ranked is only placing me against people who have played in several Arena seasons.
And people who say "Thank you" after killing you. Can't stand those people, I hope there's a special place in hell for those.


EDIT: I just achieved rank 20. When do I get my card back?

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 thenoobbomb wrote:
Aaaaaand Ranked is only placing me against people who have played in several Arena seasons.
And people who say "Thank you" after killing you. Can't stand those people, I hope there's a special place in hell for those.


EDIT: I just achieved rank 20. When do I get my card back?


When the season ends I think

Currently debating whether to study for my exams or paint some Deathwing 
   
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Ah. Well, I'll be waiting for my Icecrown card back, then. It's pretty cool.

   
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 Soladrin wrote:
 The Dark Apostle wrote:
Can anyone consistently (or even somewhat) play arena and break even in terms of gold allowing an (in theory) infinite amount of times and packs on dakka dakka


Not completely even, but close to it. One of the tricks to it is to also build up a few quests and see what class would benefit most and use that class in arena so you can combine quests and arena. (I don't play every day)


Hunter and mage are the best decks for arena

Hunter Get only beast cards and unleash the hounds and buff cards. GG

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 Asherian Command wrote:
 Soladrin wrote:
 The Dark Apostle wrote:
Can anyone consistently (or even somewhat) play arena and break even in terms of gold allowing an (in theory) infinite amount of times and packs on dakka dakka


Not completely even, but close to it. One of the tricks to it is to also build up a few quests and see what class would benefit most and use that class in arena so you can combine quests and arena. (I don't play every day)


Hunter and mage are the best decks for arena

Hunter Get only beast cards and unleash the hounds and buff cards. GG


I'm feeling generous, have this.

http://www.arenavalue.com/

Helps with arena selections.

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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

The last game in this video is amazing, and is a good argument for why you need to learn what cards interact with what cards.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

"It's Thrall-time!"


That Mage has got you on the ropes. Hope your next draw helped stop him. Mages are totally OP.




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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The last game in this video is amazing, and is a good argument for why you need to learn what cards interact with what cards.

Having just started watching this video, it's really weird putting a face to TotalBiscuit's voice. It feels like I'm watching a dub.

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
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As someone who watches the Co-Optional Podcast each week, it's pretty normal.

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So a new set has been announced, gonna be a 100+ whopper that's gonna be within packs, not an adventure.

Hopefully we'll see some BALANCE this time around.
   
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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
So a new set has been announced, gonna be a 100+ whopper that's gonna be within packs, not an adventure.

Hopefully we'll see some BALANCE this time around.


What's not balanced about it right now? I think the cards they implemented helped a lot.

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RJCarrot wrote:
 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
So a new set has been announced, gonna be a 100+ whopper that's gonna be within packs, not an adventure.

Hopefully we'll see some BALANCE this time around.


What's not balanced about it right now? I think the cards they implemented helped a lot.


For some, the meta is still pretty strong in certain areas but some of the issues:

Paladins are now the worst class ingame, reliant upon several 4 drops and their win rate has dropped to what Priest encountered.

Top decks are still Zoolock (enhanced by naxx), Miracle Rogue (because itself), Ramp/Taunt/Roar druid (Alot of decks for this are top tier), and Control Hunter, most others are lucky to even get the win percentage they can:

Also while I don't play arena, I know Mages rule it with an iron fist.
   
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Zoolock got hurt too. Deathlord, Sludge Belcher are both really bothersome to that deck.

Miracle Rogue is just Miracle Rogue, you beat it the same way you beat it before. Do your thing before they do theirs.

Druid got more rough but still can be beat. I play control warrior and a version of Forsens Mage deck and have no issue vs it.

Hunter anything still gets stopped dead by Warrior Control.

It also added alot of new cards/decks to the mix.

Paladin isn't as bad as you say. I have seen a number of decent paladin decks at the 9ish rank. They didn't get the same bonus as alot of the other decks but it did get better.

I think the game is pretty balanced for how young it is right now, though I am always happy to get new cards.

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1850 (2-1-0) (7thEd)
2000 (1-0-0) (7thEd)

 
   
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I'm running a Warlock deck based around Deathrattle at the moment and it's doing well. Taken me from rank 16 to rank 12 in a few days. The only problem with it is the over reliance on Gravedigger coming out early. If that happens and I get Baron Rivendere early as well then I tend to kick some ass. If not it's handed to me instead!

It struggles against control decks, especially Warrior, but it's great against Miracle Rogue and Zoolock, which I'm still encountering on a semi regular basis.

Interested to hear more about this new expansion, but will have to wait as I'm at a mate's BBQ at the moment and getting dirty looks from the wife 'cos I'm on Dakka instead of interacting with real people!!


 
   
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 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:
I'm running a Warlock deck based around Deathrattle at the moment and it's doing well. Taken me from rank 16 to rank 12 in a few days. The only problem with it is the over reliance on Gravedigger coming out early. If that happens and I get Baron Rivendere early as well then I tend to kick some ass. If not it's handed to me instead!

It struggles against control decks, especially Warrior, but it's great against Miracle Rogue and Zoolock, which I'm still encountering on a semi regular basis.

Interested to hear more about this new expansion, but will have to wait as I'm at a mate's BBQ at the moment and getting dirty looks from the wife 'cos I'm on Dakka instead of interacting with real people!!


All thats really known is that it's a proper set, and it has 100+ cards.
   
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And now it's time for some fun with the new Mage secret:





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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And now it's time for some fun with the new Mage secret:






Rage quit would not be close enough to describe how I'd feel if that had happened to me... brilliant!


 
   
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Now everyone do the Baron Rivendance:







And let's do it again!


And that last link is from a series of (now) 60 videos (each one about 3-4 mins long). Well worth watching the whole lot. Some hilarious stuff in there.

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Ards - N.Ireland

really good series as Trump starts fresh and shows how to quickly build a deck and earn rank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mi2fhKDXk8&index=1&list=PLvEIxIeBRKSjoySmy-oP2xp5e0tbOB2Jz
   
 
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