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**TheSecretSquig**

Does anyone know who is producing the Resin's. I've read a few comments about PRODOS involvement. If this is the case then I'll more than likely pull my pledge.

(Yes, I'm a PRODOS AVP backer who's yet to recieve their stuff after 3 years and now they've the front to take pre-orders for V2 of a Game)

**Sining**

Considering it's a one piece cast, it's very likely prodos

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

The starter set stuff is certainly prodos unicast,

not sure if the rest of the resin is theirs too

**Mewens**

Apparently, a string of bad luck is keeping SPM from updating their Kickstarter page.

Here's a link to their current stretch goals: http://ninjadivision.com/relic-knights-kickstarter-stretch-goals/

And here's the latest stretch goal graphic:

Spoiler:

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TheSecretSquig wrote:
Does anyone know who is producing the Resin's. I've read a few comments about PRODOS involvement. If this is the case then I'll more than likely pull my pledge.

I don't know who's doing the casting here, but I can confirm that Prodos has done casting for their other resins. Some of those models are in this KS; while it's possible that they have multiple production partners, that seems unlikely (especially since the figures in the box set are unicast, which is a Prodos-specific technique as far as I know.)

**JohnHwangDD**

The Breachers are armed with Nerf guns?

And the Hardshell is obviously a Gundam.

**Maniac_nmt**

They make me think of Patlabor, just now with shields.

**JohnHwangDD**

OK, yes for the shoulder lights, but no ears, no license plate? How is that a Patlabor?

**Barzam**

The dust covers, too. I would say it looks more like the Python than an Ingram though.

**Bossk_Hogg**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
OK, yes for the shoulder lights, but no ears, no license plate? How is that a Patlabor?

They're both big robots, duh!

I'm pretty impresseed with what they've shown. Will be getting at least a Questing Knight pledge, as they look to be adding a good number of resculpted units as freebies, and their later releases looked like quality stuff from what I've seen.

**Siygess**

I'm experiencing an awful lot of faction envy right now - I have most of the 1st edition Black Diamond stuff so the things of most interest to me are the Void and Black Diamond. The models for the former seems underwhelming compared to the Radiant stuff (Sundown Enforcers!) while Darkspace Squall and the resculpted Diamond Corp look pretty bland compared to many of the other offerings (Hardshell, Scribes, Oneshot, Breachers, Sarva Scouts..)

Hopefully the rest of the Black Diamond range will pick up as the KS progresses.

**spiralingcadaver**

...Why do some of the stretch goals say KS exclusive (and are free) but have MSRPs listed?

**Mewens**

You're probably talking about the Darkspace models. They'll be available during special promotions and at conventions, but won't be available for retail or on SPM's webstore.

They really shouldn't be called a KS exclusive, but it's probably worth noting that they're more limited than the base kits.

**Maniac_nmt**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
OK, yes for the shoulder lights, but no ears, no license plate? How is that a Patlabor?

The chest, parts of the gauntlets and few other bits make me think of them.

**Sining**

New stretch goal unlocked

**Schmapdi**

That is bad-ass. I have been pleasantly surprised/tempted by the quality of the new sculpts.

I'm assuming all the minis they show the sculpts/paintjobs on for the KS page are either new sculpts/old sculpts staying put for the time being? (From what I read - it seems like all the old sculpts are being retired once stock runs out?)

**Sining**

All old sculpts will be retired and switched to resin. Some immediately, and some when their current stock runs out. There's a doc.google somewhere listing which they are

**palaeomerus**

Maniac_nmt wrote:
February 2018 for delivery is taking the piss. Was ready to back for a few pieces, but I am not sure about backing with a year long release date given how abysmally poor they are at delivering on time.

The plan is to ship it in Waves. Most of it ships in Wave 1 this summer(several of the sculpts are at retail right now) probably in August. This includes the 2 player starter box set, new cards, most of the single figures, a few of the minion squads etc.

Some of it ship late in 2017 (2nd Edition Rulebook(double softcover in a slip case like the Infinity N3 rules), Diamond Corps resculpt, Hardshell, Noh Render resculpt, Kyojin Berserker resculpt, Savra scouts, Ophanim)

A few come in early 2018. (Voidbreak rulebook, Vaultus)

**Barzam**

There's some cool stuff being revealed. I'm a little disappointed that no big items, like Relic Knights are actually being included as freebies. It feels like most of the unlocks so far have been paid add-ons. I also find it odd that they don't have faction bundles as add-ons.

**JohnHwangDD**

I'm not surprised that the RKs and such are paid items - that's the only way to drive extra revenue. And it's not like this is going to be a big seller. RK is a labor of love to themselves, that they share with a niche fanbase.

**B0B MaRlEy**

I might have to get that Vaultus, although I have no interest in the game

**Maniac_nmt**

palaeomerus wrote:
Maniac_nmt wrote:
February 2018 for delivery is taking the piss. Was ready to back for a few pieces, but I am not sure about backing with a year long release date given how abysmally poor they are at delivering on time.

The plan is to ship it in Waves. Most of it ships in Wave 1 this summer(several of the sculpts are at retail right now) probably in August. This includes the 2 player starter box set, new cards, most of the single figures, a few of the minion squads etc.

Some of it ship late in 2017 (2nd Edition Rulebook(double softcover in a slip case like the Infinity N3 rules), Diamond Corps resculpt, Hardshell, Noh Render resculpt, Kyojin Berserker resculpt, Savra scouts, Ophanim)

A few come in early 2018. (Voidbreak rulebook, Vaultus)

Have they explicitly stated that break out? When I read through it was not clear what was shipping when. Given past experience with SPM, on two different projects and observing a third, they are always late, even with long and apparently padded timelines.

**palaeomerus**

Maniac_nmt wrote:
palaeomerus wrote:
Maniac_nmt wrote:
February 2018 for delivery is taking the piss. Was ready to back for a few pieces, but I am not sure about backing with a year long release date given how abysmally poor they are at delivering on time.

The plan is to ship it in Waves. Most of it ships in Wave 1 this summer(several of the sculpts are at retail right now) probably in August. This includes the 2 player starter box set, new cards, most of the single figures, a few of the minion squads etc.

Some of it ship late in 2017 (2nd Edition Rulebook(double softcover in a slip case like the Infinity N3 rules), Diamond Corps resculpt, Hardshell, Noh Render resculpt, Kyojin Berserker resculpt, Savra scouts, Ophanim)

A few come in early 2018. (Voidbreak rulebook, Vaultus)

Have they explicitly stated that break out? When I read through it was not clear what was shipping when. Given past experience with SPM, on two different projects and observing a third, they are always late, even with long and apparently padded timelines.

It's from a combination of their pledge calculator spreadsheet(which says what piece is is in what wave) and their front kickstarter page near the bottom(which explains the three waves and links them to specific "parts" of whichever year.)

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Regarding Prodos this post from one of the updates says they're doing all the resins for this, and it's all unicast, although some of the larger things may still be multipart

Soda Pop Miniatures 7-time creator
Superbacker
about 4 hours ago
All new models use the unicast method of sculpting and production to minimize the number parts required for assembly. In many cases this will result in a single piece model. Other more complex models (think knights and large models) may require 2 or more parts. In the 2-Player Starter Tahariel is the only model which requires any assembly. (She is two parts, you need to glue the ring to her back.)

As we move into tooling for other models, we will be happy to share the number of parts required for assembly.
-- nekodachi

**TheSecretSquig**

John Candice has confirmed on the Relic Knights Facebook Page that PRODOS are manufacturing ALL the resin models.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/relicknightsuk/permalink/1313329488728905/

**overtyrant**

I'm good with that. UNICAST looks great and I hope more companies come to use it or a similar process.

**Mezmaron**

TheSecretSquig wrote:
John Candice has confirmed on the Relic Knights Facebook Page that PRODOS are manufacturing ALL the resin models.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/relicknightsuk/permalink/1313329488728905/

That is great news. Prodos casts are second to none. We shouldn't face the lack-of-detail issues from the first Relic Knights models.

Mez

**Sining**

Codebreaker is up. Not too fond of the sculpt too. Torso may be too narrow while arms are too fat

**JohnHwangDD**

Hm. The RK universe is big on gunswords.

**odinsgrandson**

I've seen Unicast minis that had nothing to do with Prodos (actually from a local 'caster here in Utah). Prodos don't have any exclusivity on unicast minis.

But I did like what they did with LOAD.

**Dark Severance**

odinsgrandson wrote:
I've seen Unicast minis that had nothing to do with Prodos (actually from a local 'caster here in Utah). Prodos don't have any exclusivity on unicast minis.

They are being manufactured by Prodos. They have been doing all the resin miniatures for them for quite some time.

Unicast is different than single piece miniatures. You can tell the difference because of the poses, the undercuts and designs of them. Although it technically is a proprietary process which is why they couldn't patent it. I have yet to see someone create the same quality and designs that has been put out by Unicast.