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 tenebre wrote:
i am not a professional painting studio and sadly do not have a setup to support pictures.

I just got 2 more models yesterday with more on the way. I am going to have them take pro pics before sending from now on. My setup just doesnt do justice.

realy looking foreword to seeing more of the repaints! This is what I've been continueing reading this thread looking foreword to!

@Tenebre

I've been following this thread from the beginning and I had NO idea you were from STL! I know there are precious few WHFB players in STL and it would be great to play against some Chaos Dwarves at some point (and see the army once it's finished)! If you're ever looking for a game PM me and we can get a game together.

Tanniith wrote:
@Tenebre

I've been following this thread from the beginning and I had NO idea you were from STL! I know there are precious few WHFB players in STL and it would be great to play against some Chaos Dwarves at some point (and see the army once it's finished)! If you're ever looking for a game PM me and we can get a game together.

PM sent!

I too have been burned by BTP. They painted 40 Witch Elves and a Hydra at lv 3 at the cost of well over 1.5 grand US if one includes import fees and the result was a disaster. a quarter of the models were flat out broken on delivery, pointing to poor packaging, all the legs and the non flesh tone (gloved) arms were just flat black primer, no highlights at all, the gold was one gold colour, again no depth or highlights, the hair was not what I asked for, and the flesh appears to be drybrushed rakarth flesh over brown, giving it an inconsistent, grainy and flat out ugly appearance. Parts of models like the breast, shoulder or an entire hand were left unpainted, meaning left with the dark brown basecoat showing. They also didnt bother to send the command group, or the parts for it despite discussions on how the regiment was to rank up. I asked for the command group and Shawn said he could send it, I specified how I wanted it sent (just primered white). They haven't replied, a week and counting.

They said it could all be "fixed" if I send it back. But I refuse, they simply don't have the will or the ability as far as I'm concerned and I would be better off fixing it myself. I have finished 10 so far.

I will post a full written review with pictures, after the christmas holidays.

Please do! I think we are all interested in your experience.

It was MWG's glowing endorsement that led me to BTP to begin with. Their marginalization of people like me in response to this fiasco is a disgrace.

I didn't even expect that much, just consistent, colours PAINTED ON and neatly and evenly applied. That's all. What you'd expect from a professional.

But no, they drybrush everything, no matter how inappropriate.

Their posting of pictures for approval is pretty much useless, because who's going to trust them to add more paint to models that are already on the very edge of being ruined? They'd just overpaint it and make it worse.

TBM wrote:
I too have been burned by BTP. They painted 40 Witch Elves and a Hydra at lv 3 at the cost of well over 1.5 grand US if one includes import fees and the result was a disaster. a quarter of the models were flat out broken on delivery, pointing to poor packaging, all the legs and the non flesh tone (gloved) arms were just flat black primer, no highlights at all, the gold was one gold colour, again no depth or highlights, the hair was not what I asked for, and the flesh appears to be drybrushed rakarth flesh over brown, giving it an inconsistent, grainy and flat out ugly appearance. Parts of models like the breast, shoulder or an entire hand were left unpainted, meaning left with the dark brown basecoat showing. They also didnt bother to send the command group, or the parts for it despite discussions on how the regiment was to rank up. I asked for the command group and Shawn said he could send it, I specified how I wanted it sent (just primered white). They haven't replied, a week and counting.

They said it could all be "fixed" if I send it back. But I refuse, they simply don't have the will or the ability as far as I'm concerned and I would be better off fixing it myself. I have finished 10 so far.

I will post a full written review with pictures, after the christmas holidays.

I would too like to see a thread about this. But just curious with mwg pulling the video and all the negative backlash on it why did you choose blue table painting? Or was it already sent before the video?

Yes, a few months before the video was made by Movie Mayhem.

TBM wrote:
Yes, a few months before the video was made by Movie Mayhem.

Ah apologies, it sounded like you sent it when MWG made their promotional video for the miniature painting service blue table painting.

Not only was the standard well below lv 3, it took them 4 months to do it.


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You can see pictures of the job here. This is supposed to be lv 3.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluetablepainting/15325970162/in/set-72157647909313541

Please note the abuse of studio light. If the point of these pictures is for the client to pick up problems why have a bright light shining on the mini, obscuring the quality (or lack thereof).

4 months wait and at that price for THAT.

These are the 10 I fixed to a standard I'm happy with. And with the hair that I asked for.



I only have my low quality computer webcam at the moment.




I bet they consider that "level 6". That's just cos they clearly have low standards. Very low standard compared to other commission painters.Note that in BTP's pics the black on the legs kind of looks highlighted, but they ain't. I can tell you that now. It's just a trick of the light.

TBM wrote:
I too have been burned by BTP. They painted 40 Witch Elves and a Hydra at lv 3 at the cost of well over 1.5 grand US if one includes import fees and the result was a disaster.

First, I'm really sorry to hear that you spent so much money, and got such shoddy results.

IMO, you would do better to create a new thread and video the thing for Youtube, like ten did. It'd be nice to keep the CD vs DE issues separate. Please take good pictures.

Also, if BTP clearly failed to deliver what they said, I'd go back to your credit card company and push for a chargeback. You should photograph everything, and prepare a detailed accounting of everything that BTP failed to do, along with damages from their failure to pack properly per USPS / UPS / whatever standards.

Whatever you do, do not send the models back - BTP's failure to perform, and failure to properly package shows that they cannot be trusted to complete the work or deliver it properly.

I am opening a paypal dispute.

Good call.

I hope someone shuts BTP down, and soon. What they are doing is criminal.

TBM wrote:
I too have been burned by BTP. They painted 40 Witch Elves and a Hydra at lv 3 at the cost of well over 1.5 grand US if one includes import fees and the result was a disaster. a quarter of the models were flat out broken on delivery, pointing to poor packaging, all the legs and the non flesh tone (gloved) arms were just flat black primer, no highlights at all, the gold was one gold colour, again no depth or highlights, the hair was not what I asked for, and the flesh appears to be drybrushed rakarth flesh over brown, giving it an inconsistent, grainy and flat out ugly appearance. Parts of models like the breast, shoulder or an entire hand were left unpainted, meaning left with the dark brown basecoat showing. They also didnt bother to send the command group, or the parts for it despite discussions on how the regiment was to rank up. I asked for the command group and Shawn said he could send it, I specified how I wanted it sent (just primered white). They haven't replied, a week and counting.

They said it could all be "fixed" if I send it back. But I refuse, they simply don't have the will or the ability as far as I'm concerned and I would be better off fixing it myself. I have finished 10 so far.

I will post a full written review with pictures, after the christmas holidays.

This god damn company!

TBM wrote:
I too have been burned by BTP. They painted 40 Witch Elves and a Hydra at lv 3 at the cost of well over 1.5 grand US if one includes import fees and the result was a disaster. a quarter of the models were flat out broken on delivery, pointing to poor packaging, all the legs and the non flesh tone (gloved) arms were just flat black primer, no highlights at all, the gold was one gold colour, again no depth or highlights, the hair was not what I asked for, and the flesh appears to be drybrushed rakarth flesh over brown, giving it an inconsistent, grainy and flat out ugly appearance. Parts of models like the breast, shoulder or an entire hand were left unpainted, meaning left with the dark brown basecoat showing. They also didnt bother to send the command group, or the parts for it despite discussions on how the regiment was to rank up. I asked for the command group and Shawn said he could send it, I specified how I wanted it sent (just primered white). They haven't replied, a week and counting.

They said it could all be "fixed" if I send it back. But I refuse, they simply don't have the will or the ability as far as I'm concerned and I would be better off fixing it myself. I have finished 10 so far.

I will post a full written review with pictures, after the christmas holidays.

Like others said, I hope you start your own topic and have any before pics to show. Just so many people have been burned by this company.

I posted the before pics, aka BTP's own pictures, a few posts ago.

Shawn said he would refund the last payment which is half the total commission, but he hasn't done it yet and the dispute will remain open until he complies.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluetablepainting/15325970162/in/set-72157647909313541

TBM wrote:
I posted the before pics, aka BTP's own pictures, a few posts ago.

Shawn said he would refund the last payment which is half the total commission, but he hasn't done it yet and the dispute will remain open until he complies.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluetablepainting/15325970162/in/set-72157647909313541

yuck, is it just me or dose that paint looks prety thick from the pics?

O____o

It might be the grainy dry brushing you described playing with my eyes.

Blue Table painting actually charged you for those. I have seen better painted Witch Elves on Ebay for about half the price.

TBM wrote:
I posted the before pics, aka BTP's own pictures, a few posts ago.

Shawn said he would refund the last payment which is half the total commission, but he hasn't done it yet and the dispute will remain open until he complies.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluetablepainting/15325970162/in/set-72157647909313541

The paint is uneven and inconsistent. Too thick in some areas and non existent in others. Make no mistake these models are almost ruined. They're at the edge of a clliff to put it mildly.

Erm..wow I know this is an over used meme but thin your paints. I mean in the chaos space marines blue table painting thread, he used the same levels and it still wasn't good. Goes to show you that if your commission isn't the focus of a very popular thread, you won't even get that level.

arg that dry brushing is just wrong. those are some really terrible looking elves.

Looking at the BTP levels video it looks like they describe level 3 as basic tabletop standard. While your models are still well below what I would call tabletop standard, I'm a little unsure as to how 40 models plus a monster came to $1500?

 Daedleh wrote:
Looking at the BTP levels video it looks like they describe level 3 as basic tabletop standard. While your models are still well below what I would call tabletop standard, I'm a little unsure as to how 40 models plus a monster came to $1500?

Because Blue Table Painting charges exorbitant fees, plus he had international shipping on top of that.

 Daedleh wrote:
Looking at the BTP levels video it looks like they describe level 3 as basic tabletop standard. While your models are still well below what I would call tabletop standard, I'm a little unsure as to how 40 models plus a monster came to $1500?

If he had blue table painting buy the models that is easily 300 dollars plus tax. Then 40 models and one large monster and then shipping to the UK, I can see it being 1500.

It's about 1400 USD total. I mis-approximated a little bit before. Not that it makes a difference.

 primalexile wrote:
I hope someone shuts BTP down, and soon. What they are doing is criminal.

If not for the sake of the people who's money they're taking at least for those poor models they get their hands on. That's cruel and unusual punishment right there.

jeez dude i am so sorry.

I will PM you

TBM wrote:
The paint is uneven and inconsistent. Too thick in some areas and non existent in others. Make no mistake these models are almost ruined. They're at the edge of a clliff to put it mildly.

The amount of money you paid for those models along with the sloppiness of the paint job is such a rip off! This isn't tabletop by any standards this is just paint slapped on a model!

I paint models for money and I would be ashamed to present a client with such results. That thick to thin to thick inconsistent drybrushing ruins any attempt to call them descent.

My sympathies to you mate and hope you get an amount of your money back.

According to Shawn him self level 0 is primed with something really terrible done to it... Well I guess we found out at what level BTP usually paints! Its zero with added goodies!




The army in that video is a level 3, level 5. To be honest I don't believe their studio produced that army it must have come from a trade of some sort but anyway. I believe that tenebre would be really happy with any army looking something like that on a lower level than the one he paid for.

This company doesn't do such a great work when you start picking at them. A lot of people are really displeased with what they got for their money, it's just tenebre that made a really well organized approach to it through his video review.

Those Wyches are just incredibly bad. In a very wide variety of ways! But I especially like this picture:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluetablepainting/15326295545/in/set-72157647909313541/

Why is that even on their page? I mean, come on! Now they aren't even pretending anymore, now they are just straight up trolling