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Wonderwolf wrote:

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:


Tho no one's suprised that Smaug is coming? No thread about it.

No.

Unlike GW's 40K releases, this one was utterly predictable.

I was surprised however, that some people actually believed random rumour-mongers claiming to have seen what is likely the best-guarded licensing contract in the entire miniatures gaming industry, between New Line and GW, "quoting" made up clauses about scale and what not, and with nothing to back up their claims on top of it.

If people believe claims like this, there's probably nothing they won't believe.

Remember, the New Line agreement, in it's original form, was over ten years ago, and there was an element of communication from GW back then. It is quite possible that these things were talked about by people in a position to know a lot more freely back then.

Now, if the agreement was revised for the Hobbit movies to not include this sort of stuff, I agree, we would be in a much worse position to know.

I'm a little suprised that the Deathstorm Box set is still available on the GW US Site.

The UK site too

Smaug is going to be ridiculously huge if he's in scale. It seems bizarre they're going down the road of pursuing that avenue as sales haven't been that good, considering they've still got those Goblin Town sets.

Then again a massive dragon/drake will probably sell well if the sculpt's good.

Given the whole Black Friday/Christmas combo going on at the moment, it's not hugely surprising - people buying gifts may either know the giftee doesn't want BA/'nids so bought something else, or not know they DO want those things so bought something else, and a lot of the folk who'd normally be camping the site to buy one for themselves/ebay will have just blown an obscene amount of money on electronics and home appliances.

If it doesn't fully sell out quickly I'd imagine they'll pretend it has and quietly shuffle any excess online stock into stores with orders to hard-sell them to clueless Christmas-shopping parents.

 Medium of Death wrote:
Smaug is going to be ridiculously huge if he's in scale. It seems bizarre they're going down the road of pursuing that avenue as sales haven't been that good, considering they've still got those Goblin Town sets.

Then again a massive dragon/drake will probably sell well if the sculpt's good.

A good dragon is one of the few models, being on a pretty tight hobby budget, I will buy even if it doesn't have a use in a game I play.

Depending on price, this could well be the first model I pre-order from GW, well, ever.

There's a lot of stars would need to align for that to happen.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
Smaug is going to be ridiculously huge if he's in scale. It seems bizarre they're going down the road of pursuing that avenue as sales haven't been that good, considering they've still got those Goblin Town sets.

Then again a massive dragon/drake will probably sell well if the sculpt's good.

A good dragon is one of the few models, being on a pretty tight hobby budget, I will buy even if it doesn't have a use in a game I play.

Depending on price, this could well be the first model I pre-order from GW, well, ever.

There's a lot of stars would need to align for that to happen.

$490 apparently.

Made this thread to stop off topicness.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/625049.page

Back to Blood Angels have any of the other recent 7th releases had their codex in week one?

I thought it was usually one of the last things to be released in the multi-week approach.

Death Company Terminators...

My hope would be that if they're real they're some kind of new unit - warden terminators or something - rather than up and handing over the few irreplaceable TDA suits to the death company for the lols

 Eldarain wrote:
Back to Blood Angels have any of the other recent 7th releases had their codex in week one?

I thought it was usually one of the last things to be released in the multi-week approach.

A tighter schedule for the end of year with Christmas/Hobbit/Blood Angels to squeeze in.

Been out of the loop for a while but ummm how long have the sanguinary guard, and death company kits been missing from the web site?

No codex either......I would be excited other than the fact I was about to make an order of sanguinary guard......I swear GW has my house bugged every time I go to order something it is mysteriously out of stock or gone.

Codex, tactical squad, blood angel dice and the data cards are week one.

Hopefully week two will be the very much wanted assault squad and maybe new terminators and anything else is just gravy

So are they getting rid of sanguinary guard all together.....I would be very upset that would be 30 models with no use basicly no army left for me especially if assault squads are no longer troops.....not freaking out just really looking for the scoop so I can accept what is coming.

 Bull0 wrote:
Death Company Terminators...

My hope would be that if they're real they're some kind of new unit - warden terminators or something - rather than up and handing over the few irreplaceable TDA suits to the death company for the lols

They only tell them that they are irreplacable so they take better care of them


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 BlackRaven1987!! wrote:
So are they getting rid of sanguinary guard all together.....I would be very upset that would be 30 models with no use basicly no army left for me especially if assault squads are no longer troops.....not freaking out just really looking for the scoop so I can accept what is coming.

I'm betting they get repacked into a 10 pack, like they did with Grey Knights

I imagine the sanguinary guard and death company will all be in boxes of 10 from now on

Motograter wrote:
I imagine the sanguinary guard and death company will all be in boxes of 10 from now on

Okay, WHY would they pack Sanguinary Guard in boxes of 10 when the unit size is 5?

It might not be 5 in the new book.

 troa wrote:

Motograter wrote:
I imagine the sanguinary guard and death company will all be in boxes of 10 from now on

Okay, WHY would they pack Sanguinary Guard in boxes of 10 when the unit size is 5?

Either that or they are getting the 32mm put in their boxes

troa wrote:

Motograter wrote:
I imagine the sanguinary guard and death company will all be in boxes of 10 from now on

Okay, WHY would they pack Sanguinary Guard in boxes of 10 when the unit size is 5?

Eldarain wrote:It might not be 5 in the new book.

To sell more models

 BlackRaven1987!! wrote:
So are they getting rid of sanguinary guard all together.....I would be very upset that would be 30 models with no use basicly no army left for me especially if assault squads are no longer troops.....not freaking out just really looking for the scoop so I can accept what is coming.

I fully expect that the kits have simply been pulled as they'll be re-issued eventually with the new 32mm bases instead of the 25's that everyone currently uses.

GW have not 'squated' a unit that has an actualy model kit for years and year now... (Sly Marbo being the sole exception!) The only stuff getting yanked from books are the things that didn't have models in production yet, though with the current Tyranid wave, we've even seen the return of a pulled unit option with the bug drop pod.

 troa wrote:

Motograter wrote:
I imagine the sanguinary guard and death company will all be in boxes of 10 from now on

Okay, WHY would they pack Sanguinary Guard in boxes of 10 when the unit size is 5?

Don`t recall saying they would, Its an opinion. I could be wrong who knows. Currently they are taken in units of 5 but whats to say they wont be 10 man squads in the new book (unless you know something we dont?)

It could also be other reasons as mentioned above, ie repacked with new bases, to sell more models etc. To be fair it matter little unless they are hugely improved anyway in the new book

What am I missing? Why is the new blood angels tactical squad on bigger bases???

Motograter wrote:

 troa wrote:

Motograter wrote:
I imagine the sanguinary guard and death company will all be in boxes of 10 from now on

Okay, WHY would they pack Sanguinary Guard in boxes of 10 when the unit size is 5?

Don`t recall saying they would, Its an opinion. I could be wrong who knows. Currently they are taken in units of 5 but whats to say they wont be 10 man squads in the new book (unless you know something we dont?)

It could also be other reasons as mentioned above, ie repacked with new bases, to sell more models etc. To be fair it matter little unless they are hugely improved anyway in the new book

It is not an opinion, it is speculation, and how you phrased it was not "well, maybe this will happen" it was "I bet this will happen." If speculation and opinion are the same to you, I encourage you to better define both for yourself.

I also find it amusing that you ask if I know something you don't, when the change you are "imagining" would require a change to current unit size. That means what you've said, especially with SG, has the same line of reasoning as if I was to say "Sanguinary priests will probably come in packs of 6 because I bet they upped the unit size to 6." That's not an opinion, now is it?

Simply put, if you're going to toss out wild speculations, have some reasoning for it. "Because who knows?" is invalid reasoning.



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 ceorron wrote:
What am I missing? Why is the new blood angels tactical squad on bigger bases???

It appears many models are going to be changing base sizes in the near future.

 troa wrote:


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 ceorron wrote:
What am I missing? Why is the new blood angels tactical squad on bigger bases???

It appears many models are going to be changing base sizes in the near future.

Well I don't know what was wrong with the normal size bases for tactical marines.

 troa wrote:

Motograter wrote:

 troa wrote:

Motograter wrote:
I imagine the sanguinary guard and death company will all be in boxes of 10 from now on

Okay, WHY would they pack Sanguinary Guard in boxes of 10 when the unit size is 5?

Don`t recall saying they would, Its an opinion. I could be wrong who knows. Currently they are taken in units of 5 but whats to say they wont be 10 man squads in the new book (unless you know something we dont?)

It could also be other reasons as mentioned above, ie repacked with new bases, to sell more models etc. To be fair it matter little unless they are hugely improved anyway in the new book

It is not an opinion, it is speculation, and how you phrased it was not "well, maybe this will happen" it was "I bet this will happen." If speculation and opinion are the same to you, I encourage you to better define both for yourself.


I also find it amusing that you ask if I know something you don't, when the change you are "imagining" would require a change to current unit size. That means what you've said, especially with SG, has the same line of reasoning as if I was to say "Sanguinary priests will probably come in packs of 6 because I bet they upped the unit size to 6." That's not an opinion, now is it?

Simply put, if you're going to toss out wild speculations, have some reasoning for it. "Because who knows?" is invalid reasoning.

So the Sanguinary Guard and Death Company kits have disappeared from the Blood Angels section on GW GB..updated kit incoming?!

 angelofvengeance wrote:
So the Sanguinary Guard and Death Company kits have disappeared from the Blood Angels section on GW GB..updated kit incoming?!

It's not like we've spend an entire page discussing that exact thing.
The 'update' is probably either bigger boxes, which I doubt, or to give them bigger bases, which is more likely in my opinion.

 ceorron wrote:
What am I missing? Why is the new blood angels tactical squad on bigger bases???

Apparently the last five pages of the thread you just posted in because we've been discussing that?

Kangodo wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
So the Sanguinary Guard and Death Company kits have disappeared from the Blood Angels section on GW GB..updated kit incoming?!

It's not like we've spend an entire page discussing that exact thing.
The 'update' is probably either bigger boxes, which I doubt, or to give them bigger bases, which is more likely in my opinion.

I may have missed a few pages lol