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http://spikeybitsblog.com/2014/12/new-blood-angels-codex-rules-leak.html

Thats the link to the codex leak. Literally the ONLY thing I dont like is no assault squads in troops.

I've never heard the ass one.


Yep... I really just typed that.

I do not think people are looking at this right. We just got a Deathstar from hell. Mephiston, Tig, all the special weapons tac squad? Thinking Telepathy, possible Divination.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Blood Angels weren't a jump troop Army when I started in 2nd edition, they wasn't in third either.

Yeah, and back then they were just Ultramarines with different Special Characters, a different paint job, and one unique unit (Death Company). Why would we want to return to a world where things are more bland?

Yet the death company had the most character it has ever had.

Having the 1+1 wound rule was cool, and also that each marine was a 1 man unit if they didn't have a chaplain to keep them in line.

Is the Reclusiarch still a thing? Chaplain upgrade? Gone altogether?

Yeah 'cause that wasn't hard to track or anything, especially in 2nd Ed's 1-on-1 style HTH rules.

There was only ever 20 models in each army, it wasn't that hard to track.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Is the Reclusiarch still a thing? Chaplain upgrade? Gone altogether?

According to the guy on Warseer, the Reclusiarch is gone (and so are Honour Guard). He didn't say if Chaplains are moved to HQ (which is probably the case).

So, if you were using Relics of the Armoury you're gak outta luck until FW brings out a new book with Marine vehicles (or maybe they'll just FAQ it in a couple of years or so).

Great, and I just bought a new Chaplain with Jump Pack. I guess I can give him that Jump Pack Relic that helps out Deep Strike. Fielding him and Dante will yield some interesting results.

Ok now that it's leaked any word on dev squads having access to heavy Flamers ?

Narlix wrote:
Ok now that it's leaked any word on dev squads having access to heavy Flamers ?

Apparently Dev squads cannot take Heavy Flamers.

Narlix wrote:
Ok now that it's leaked any word on dev squads having access to heavy Flamers ?

Only tac squads and sternguard

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Blood Angels weren't a jump troop Army when I started in 2nd edition, they wasn't in third either.

Yeah, and back then they were just Ultramarines with different Special Characters, a different paint job, and one unique unit (Death Company). Why would we want to return to a world where things are more bland?

Return to a world without Santa Grimnar, Dreadknights, Bloody Blood Missiles, Robo-Spock Iron Hands, and Centurions? You know, if it weren't for what Forgeworld and FFG have produced in the interim, I'd say it was totally worth it.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Return to a world without Santa Grimnar, Dreadknights, Bloody Blood Missiles, Robo-Spock Iron Hands, and Centurions? You know, if it weren't for what Forgeworld and FFG have produced in the interim, I'd say it was totally worth it.

I believe the proper satirical term for centurions (that I made up) is Russian Nesting Astartes. I would also accept anything starting with "Yo Dawg! I hurd you like spees marinez..."

So if it's true that Corbulo gives +1 ws and init to his unit, this might be a thing.

Meph
Dante
Corb
A decent size (15?) unit of death co

That's init 6 str 5 ws 5 assumingly with fnp as well, drop invis on it from Meph!

I call it the .... Death-Star...
Oh wait.

 warboss wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Return to a world without Santa Grimnar, Dreadknights, Bloody Blood Missiles, Robo-Spock Iron Hands, and Centurions? You know, if it weren't for what Forgeworld and FFG have produced in the interim, I'd say it was totally worth it.

I believe the proper satirical term for centurions (that I made up) is Russian Nesting Astartes. I would also accept anything starting with "Yo Dawg! I hurd you like spees marinez..."

Kinder Marines?

I'm not usually one to bemoan codex changes as they generally all get a little better and change around units to make us buy more toys but....

If these rumors are actually correct I'm pretty upset, sure various things are alot better (dante, points drops, etr) but I see very little reason to play BA instead of normal marines. We have to take tacticals but instead of a useful chapter tactic are stuck with furious charge on a single attack unit with rapid fire weapons that are unlikey to ever charge. This makes for a very un-inspiring core to an army.
Just take some fast attack units to assault with I here people cry - but if I play wolves or marines I could use thunderwolves or bikes who are both harder to kill, faster and more hard hitting.
We used to be the only chapter with a flying vehicle now we are the chapter with the least flying options (all the others have two).
If we're going to just be bad vanilla marines at least we should get some of their toys like storm talons and landspeeder storms that fit our flavour.

As I said I'm sure they will be perfectly playable but they just seem completely un-interesting, there is no point having a book that just does the same as the vanilla book. those who say that it'll get fixed in a suppliment need to wake up, playing extra to get what you used to have is not an answer.

Sorry for the rant but I've been playing BA since the early 90's and was really looking forward to this book and am now just pretty sad which is not a feeling the makers of the game I love should be giving me -( here's hoping that as with all books it works out ok in time.

Eldercaveman wrote:
So if it's true that Corbulo gives +1 ws and init to his unit, this might be a thing.

Meph
Dante
Corb
A decent size (15?) unit of death co

That's init 6 str 5 ws 5 assumingly with fnp as well, drop invis on it from Meph!

I call it the .... Death-Star...
Oh wait.

Pray for the 12'' move psychic ability and if you get it, tell your opponent to prepare his anus for the turn 2 charge.

So much for finishing my Flesh Tearers. LOL what a joke. But why am I surprised I know GW doesn't care about older players. No different than all those chaos players that took it in the rear post 3.5 or whatever.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Blood Angels weren't a jump troop Army when I started in 2nd edition, they wasn't in third either.

Yeah, and back then they were just Ultramarines with different Special Characters, a different paint job, and one unique unit (Death Company). Why would we want to return to a world where things are more bland?

Return to a world without Santa Grimnar, Dreadknights, Bloody Blood Missiles, Robo-Spock Iron Hands, and Centurions? You know, if it weren't for what Forgeworld and FFG have produced in the interim, I'd say it was totally worth it.

Yep.

Bland is highly underrated.



Biggest disappointment from this codex is no Blood Wing Attack Fighter or Chalice Chariot with Casket Cannon. But hey, not all is lost. Tyranids got an interim release, and they specifically left out the Storm Talon.

 BlaxicanX wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:
So if it's true that Corbulo gives +1 ws and init to his unit, this might be a thing.

Meph
Dante
Corb
A decent size (15?) unit of death co

That's init 6 str 5 ws 5 assumingly with fnp as well, drop invis on it from Meph!

I call it the .... Death-Star...
Oh wait.

Pray for the 12'' move psychic ability and if you get it, tell your opponent to prepare his anus for the turn 2 charge.

Prepare for that nice large demolisher shell

I think it will be interesting. Fit it into a unit with a bunch of powermauls and go wack some faces especially with enfeeble or some other sillyness.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

Biggest disappointment from this codex is no Blood Wing Attack Fighter or Chalice Chariot with Casket Cannon.

The GW Advent calendar is still going on. Maybe we'll get this beauty sometime before Dec 25th as an additional paid DLC microtransaction!

Warhams-77 wrote:

Iubichan on Warseer

Thanks! So are standard Predators and Vindicators no longer Fast?

That's correct, but standard Predators can buy them at 10 points.

but what about vindicators? Yay or nay? I was super pumped to start blood angels when i heard they had fast vindicators. I've always loved them, but been afraid of their limited range/speed.

IS MY SUMMER DREAM TO COME TO NAUGHT?

Lame rumors. No reason to run BA now, since the best units appear to be either HQ or slotless characters. Just use them as allies to get Meph.

Another missed opportunity.

Anyone got a link to this warseer thread? I cant find it

Vindicators can't - as far as we know at the moment


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 th3maninblak wrote:
Anyone got a link to this warseer thread? I cant find it

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?402599-Blood-Angels-vs-Tyranids-Seige-of-Baal-Box-Set&p=7331647#post7331647

 Silverthorne wrote:
Lame rumors. No reason to run BA now, since the best units appear to be either HQ or slotless characters. Just use them as allies to get Meph.

Another missed opportunity.

If he really is T5 now instead of 6 then a large part of why people took him is gone (immunity to S10 instakill). He gains a bit of survivability if he is an IC who can join a squad but I'm not sure if that is the case.

I know we have nay-sayers. But i like it.

The only thing that slightly annoys me is our new detachment and no new flyer or access to storm talon. We only get 1 extra elites slot? It seems like the previous army detachments gave a little more than that.

JuniorRS13 wrote:
I know we have nay-sayers. But i like it.

Yeah. The people who don't like the fact that the entire structure of their army has been invalidated are just 'nay-sayers'.

On the bright side, at least you had the class not to call them "haters".

A great term I just saw on another board made sense to me.

Ward basically redefined the BA's fairly radically. Their last book went more than a bit ham in some places.

It would appear that GW is attempting to "de-Ward" the book and bring it closer to its 2E "Angels of Death" incarnation, and in a way that makes sense.

It's unfortunate for the armies that were built heavily around Assault Marines, as that was their main feature for the last 7 years, but I can at least see some fluff logic in their madness with this, as opposed to say, the IG codex where they simply deleted half the characters and artillery purely because they didn't have plastic kits.