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Ooohh, I wonder how this will turn out. As a Wood Elf player the idea of an Elven Legions makes me feel giddy, Brolocks working with Sisters of the Thorn? Wild Riders lead by Dreadlords? Phoenix's leading Warhawks and Skycutter Chariots lead by the Sisters of Twilight on Eagle? It makes me feel happy inside.

My only thoughts are how they will swing it lore-wise, if Malekith is still trying to destroy the High Elves, why would we have Dark/High/Wood Elf alliance? It's noted that Malekith is working with Teclis, and Arial with Allariel (She also has ties with Morathi) but they better have some damn good fluff to justify this!

As a Dark Elf player for many years now, I have one thing to say to this.

SQUEEEEEE.

Thank you.

Thank you to GW if this is what I think it is.

I can finally run an eight bolt thrower army, with warlocks, a BOTWD, and Phoenixes.

So psyched for this as a high elf player. Although the competitive scene really does not need a combined elf list. I hope that doesn't turn out to be true. For pretty much the reasons thedarkavenger stated, lol.

There are reports that this book will allow you to do a force of All three Elves books, whereas Tyrion and another elf are leading those that don't join Malekith.... apparently Tyrion draws the widowmaker.... its being suggested that Tyrion is actually the bad guy, and that Malekith, being direct blood of Anerion somehow plays a part in stopping the impending doom.


.... also... its being mentioned that "Khaine leads the elves that survive".

All I know is that if Malekith is the leader of a force that can select from all 3 elven armies, and is actually the savior and phoenix king throne claimant, then its like the writers springboarded right into muh brizain and gave me the story i was always hoping for.

I cannot wait for this gak!


Also - magic changing a lot. Every lore gaining a spell that is known by all level 3 or higher wizards ; if successfully cast, it can't be dispelled by reports. Interesting.

Lots of interesting stuff here if this link has not been given yet:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/11/latest-end-times-iii-is-malekith-savior.html





.... my mind is reeling with possibilities.... like... there's so many stupid friggin combinations if you can do an Elves Undivided list, and that appears to be becoming a thing. Glad i've been quietly amassing a sizeable dark and wood elf force to go with my high elves.

If this is true, I've already broken warhammer.

And it's not even the list above!

 thedarkavenger wrote:
If this is true, I've already broken warhammer.

And it's not even the list above!

I know what you mean.... i'm spinning through my 3 books right now, and it's just absurd some of the things you can do.

I am wondering if it will be a nearly undivided montage like the previous two end times, or if it will be more restrained. I dunno... as much as i love the idea, i know my opponents are going to get REAL sick of some of the horsegak i can pull off in an elves undivided list.


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TOLD YA SO!!! KA-BOOM!!!

Don't fething care, just want GW print enought books

I'm just nervous about what characters are going to be killed off... Fear and excitement in equal measure here. Lol

 hellpato wrote:
Don't fething care, just want GW print enought books

Yeah, after having to drive 2 hours to find a store with glottkin I'm actually going to preorder this one.

We didn't hear much about Morathi, and she's a finecast miniature
Just sayin ...

 TanKoL wrote:
We didn't hear much about Morathi, and she's a finecast miniature
Just sayin ...

If they kill off Morathi, I quit end times.

Morathi on metal is the only thing Dark Elves have that can deal with Nagash and Karl Franz.

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 TanKoL wrote:
We didn't hear much about Morathi, and she's a finecast miniature
Just sayin ...

If they kill off Morathi, I quit end times.

Morathi on metal is the only thing Dark Elves have that can deal with Nagash and Karl Franz.

I could see them doing that. Her devotion to slaanesh and all.....maybe maliketh gains some support from high elf factions by eliminating her bring her followers further under his control.

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 TanKoL wrote:
We didn't hear much about Morathi, and she's a finecast miniature
Just sayin ...

If they kill off Morathi, I quit end times.

Morathi on metal is the only thing Dark Elves have that can deal with Nagash and Karl Franz.

I could see them doing that. Her devotion to slaanesh and all.....maybe maliketh gains some support from high elf factions by eliminating her bring her followers further under his control.

If they do that, then all elf armies will feature Teclis, as he becomes the only model in any of the 3 books who can do anything to compete with Nagash and KFA.

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 TanKoL wrote:
We didn't hear much about Morathi, and she's a finecast miniature
Just sayin ...

If they kill off Morathi, I quit end times.

Morathi on metal is the only thing Dark Elves have that can deal with Nagash and Karl Franz.

I could see them doing that. Her devotion to slaanesh and all.....maybe maliketh gains some support from high elf factions by eliminating her bring her followers further under his control.

If they do that, then all elf armies will feature Teclis, as he becomes the only model in any of the 3 books who can do anything to compete with Nagash and KFA.

Its all speculation until the 29th

and no not all elf armies will have teclis.

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 TanKoL wrote:
We didn't hear much about Morathi, and she's a finecast miniature
Just sayin ...

If they kill off Morathi, I quit end times.

Morathi on metal is the only thing Dark Elves have that can deal with Nagash and Karl Franz.

I could see them doing that. Her devotion to slaanesh and all.....maybe maliketh gains some support from high elf factions by eliminating her bring her followers further under his control.

If they do that, then all elf armies will feature Teclis, as he becomes the only model in any of the 3 books who can do anything to compete with Nagash and KFA.

Its all speculation until the 29th

and no not all elf armies will have teclis.

So. How do elf armies deal with models like Nagash and KFA without them?

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 TanKoL wrote:
We didn't hear much about Morathi, and she's a finecast miniature
Just sayin ...

If they kill off Morathi, I quit end times.

Morathi on metal is the only thing Dark Elves have that can deal with Nagash and Karl Franz.

I could see them doing that. Her devotion to slaanesh and all.....maybe maliketh gains some support from high elf factions by eliminating her bring her followers further under his control.

If they do that, then all elf armies will feature Teclis, as he becomes the only model in any of the 3 books who can do anything to compete with Nagash and KFA.

Its all speculation until the 29th

and no not all elf armies will have teclis.

So. How do elf armies deal with models like Nagash and KFA without them?

Probably the upgraded version of Malekith that will be in this book. And many of the 22 or so new spells.

Namiel's right, we can't accurately make any calls on that without actually having the book in hand and seeing what new toys are available.

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 TanKoL wrote:
We didn't hear much about Morathi, and she's a finecast miniature
Just sayin ...

If they kill off Morathi, I quit end times.

Morathi on metal is the only thing Dark Elves have that can deal with Nagash and Karl Franz.

I could see them doing that. Her devotion to slaanesh and all.....maybe maliketh gains some support from high elf factions by eliminating her bring her followers further under his control.

If they do that, then all elf armies will feature Teclis, as he becomes the only model in any of the 3 books who can do anything to compete with Nagash and KFA.

Its all speculation until the 29th

and no not all elf armies will have teclis.

So. How do elf armies deal with models like Nagash and KFA without them?

Lots of bolt throwers..........and direct damage spells burning up his dispel dice

 thedarkavenger wrote:
I can finally run an eight bolt thrower army, with warlocks, a BOTWD, and Phoenixes.

I soooooo look forward to never playing this gak

- Salvage

 Boss Salvage wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:
I can finally run an eight bolt thrower army, with warlocks, a BOTWD, and Phoenixes.

I soooooo look forward to never playing this gak

- Salvage

Bolt throwers from whatever book should still be considered bolt throwers and still have their normal max's. I doubt it will say that and people will do it but thats just my opinion.

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 TanKoL wrote:
We didn't hear much about Morathi, and she's a finecast miniature
Just sayin ...

If they kill off Morathi, I quit end times.

Morathi on metal is the only thing Dark Elves have that can deal with Nagash and Karl Franz.

I could see them doing that. Her devotion to slaanesh and all.....maybe maliketh gains some support from high elf factions by eliminating her bring her followers further under his control.

If they do that, then all elf armies will feature Teclis, as he becomes the only model in any of the 3 books who can do anything to compete with Nagash and KFA.

Its all speculation until the 29th

and no not all elf armies will have teclis.

So. How do elf armies deal with models like Nagash and KFA without them?

Lots of bolt throwers..........and direct damage spells burning up his dispel dice

Oh, you mean those bolt throwers that wound on 5s for single shots and 6s for multishots. And those direct damages that wound on 6s. SURE. That'll be considered a good method when pigs fly.

He's T7 with a 4+ armour and a 4+ ward. If you don't kill him in one turn, you've just wasted power dice/shots.

 namiel wrote:

 Boss Salvage wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:
I can finally run an eight bolt thrower army, with warlocks, a BOTWD, and Phoenixes.

I soooooo look forward to never playing this gak

- Salvage

Bolt throwers from whatever book should still be considered bolt throwers and still have their normal max's. I doubt it will say that and people will do it but thats just my opinion.

High elves are rare. Dark elves are specials. I am listing the normal max limitations. 4 special and 4 rare.

And I am saying that 8 bolt throwers is stupid regardless. IMO a bolt thrower is a bolt thrower weather it be special or rare and unit restrictions should reflect.

 thedarkavenger wrote:


If they kill off Morathi, I quit end times.

Morathi on metal is the only thing Dark Elves have that can deal with Nagash and Karl Franz.

What about all your other posts on how you've broken end times? How if they combine elves that's it you've already broken it? Seriously stop crying doom & gloom & saying how warhammer is dead & you'll quit. Be a better player & find a way to deal with it.

Really, leave, you won't be missed. I'll keep playing the game & I can always just say "Hey man, can you not bring X, I don't have a real answer" or I can try fighting an uphill battle. In tournaments if it's truly that broken it'll get comped.

Besides that we know NOTHING until the book is released. Maybe the magic rework does something. Maybe the big Khaine model can do it. Seriously stop being a howler monkey.

 thedarkavenger wrote:
If this is true, I've already broken warhammer.

And it's not even the list above!

So "broken" sh*t is ok when you take it but Flames of Azgorh in a gunline is not? Interesting

We know Malekith is getting new rules which will more than likely be a combined profile with a dragon, and potentially Tyrion too (with the Sword of Khaine perhaps).

I imagine they will be more than a match for Karl Franz Ascended or Nagash

For the true Pheonix King, Malekith!

Finally - I am loving these lore updates. I hear that Teclis + Malekith will team up to fight Tyrion + ??? - brother vs brother seems pretty sweet.

I wonder how the wood elves will fit into all of this?

Well I already posted these in the news and rumours thread but thought I'd put them here for people who haven't looked at that thread

Ewww, I was really hoping for a new Malekith model. The current one needs an update.