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This looks a lot more interesting than the other trailers I have seen on Dakka recently.

I hoped another movie set in the future except it is T1, T2 and T3 put in a time paradox bowl, and make a mediocre rehash?

I hope it will be accompanied by a crappy game like Terminator Salvation was

 TheCustomLime wrote:
At least they tried to make an original title.

Unfortunately they took the same approach as "Syfy channel".

Must be trying to appeal to the Welsh demographic.

As for the trailer it looks like the conversation went something like this:

"T1 and T2 were good, let's do a remake!"

"Great idea! Hollywood makes money from rehashing gak all the time! Which one first?"

"Both!"

I know this isn't going to be able to touch the majesty of the first two films but I still get excited when I hear that Brad Fidl theme tune

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I think Emilia Clarke makes a pretty good effort for Sarah Connor IMO.

Yes she does! Had to watch the whole trailer before I realised it was the actress from Game of Thrones.

Emilia Clarke looks good, but Jai Courtney looks noting like Kyle Reese. He's a good actor, I lived him in Spartacus, but they could have found somone who at least resembled Michael Biehn.

I dunno. On one hand I'm intrigued. I'm (apparently) one of the few who really liked Terminator 3, especially the whole "Judgement Day is inevitable!" plot twist and how they didn't win in that film. Adding more onto that with weird time retcons and whatnot sounds great.

And I don't mind the 'y' in Genisys.

Never did see the Christian Bale one.

 LuciusAR wrote:
He's a good actor...

Did you see Die Hard 5? Yeesh...

I don't care how bad this turns out to be - I'm still watching it.

If Arnie says Uzi 9mm or give these people air, I'll be happier still

Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

Hey just what ya see pal!

 Ratius wrote:
Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

Hey just what ya see pal!

That's why we need a future-set Terminator where he can go to the gun shop and get a plasma rifle...

That's one of the things that bothers me about T1. I can accept the time traveling killer robot, but getting a full auto Uzi over the counter with no paperwork is even more unbelievable

 Orlanth wrote:
This looks a lot more interesting than the other trailers I have seen on Dakka recently.

Nah. I have to second someone else's vote. In today's computer CGI, we have the capacity to go all out. Lets see the final battle to take skynet, ENDING with them discovering a termintor has gone back and Reese volunteering to go back. But thats after the big battle. Come on man we need World War T!

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Well, since T2 was amazing, it could still be "good" or "great" and still be worse. So, there is that...

He meant the special effects... took me a second to realize that as well though.

 LuciusAR wrote:
Emilia Clarke looks good, but Jai Courtney looks noting like Kyle Reese. He's a good actor, I lived him in Spartacus, but they could have found somone who at least resembled Michael Biehn.

This. Not so much that he doesn't look like Biehn, but more than he looks like an action hero. The nice thing about Biehn was that he looked more like a gruff, everyman sort of hero.

 Alex C wrote:

 Ratius wrote:
Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

Hey just what ya see pal!

That's why we need a future-set Terminator where he can go to the gun shop and get a plasma rifle...

That's one of the things that bothers me about T1. I can accept the time traveling killer robot, but getting a full auto Uzi over the counter with no paperwork is even more unbelievable

It was America in the 1980s - you could probably buy a whole load of things over the counter

Besides, having a B list actor as President for two terms, probably sounded unbelievable as well, but it happened.


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 Frazzled wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
This looks a lot more interesting than the other trailers I have seen on Dakka recently.

Nah. I have to second someone else's vote. In today's computer CGI, we have the capacity to go all out. Lets see the final battle to take skynet, ENDING with them discovering a termintor has gone back and Reese volunteering to go back. But thats after the big battle. Come on man we need World War T!

What if skynet builds robbo dogs? Your wiener friends wouldn't be much use then.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:


What if skynet builds robbo dogs? Your wiener friends wouldn't be much use then.

They actually did that in an issue of the old NOW! comics Terminator series. It was a standalone issue and pretty good. The terminator dog wipes out an entire resistance cell by itself.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Did you see Die Hard 5? Yeesh...

No I've not seen it on principle. I'm basing my opionion of him on Spartacus which I enjoyed.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 Alex C wrote:

 Ratius wrote:
Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

Hey just what ya see pal!

That's why we need a future-set Terminator where he can go to the gun shop and get a plasma rifle...

That's one of the things that bothers me about T1. I can accept the time traveling killer robot, but getting a full auto Uzi over the counter with no paperwork is even more unbelievable

It was America in the 1980s - you could probably buy a whole load of things over the counter

Gun control act back in the 30's (I think?) regulated purchase and ownership of full auto.

But it's a minor quibble in a film about time traveling robot assassins...

Im going to quote kurtz

The horror......the horror......

but getting a full auto Uzi over the counter with no paperwork is even more unbelievable

Cant you buy shotguns over the counter in Walmart in the US?

 Ratius wrote:

but getting a full auto Uzi over the counter with no paperwork is even more unbelievable

Cant you buy shotguns over the counter in Walmart in the US?

With a background check and federal paperwork, yes.

But they are not full auto. They would be break action, pump action, bolt action, lever action, or semi auto.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I actually like it, truth be told.

The whole series is about time traveling machine hitmen. At some point, the Butterfly Effect was going to come into play.

I love me some Arnold. So count me in.

I love it!

Can't wait to see it!

We're talking G&G Level PUMPED here!

I'm actually digging it.

And what's up with old-man, grey haired Arnold?

Seems like there's multiple Arnuld Terminators from different timelines?

No Christian Bale as John Connor?? Goddammit. As panned as that movie was, I somewhat enjoyed it and I was hoping for a direct sequel.

Still, this looks cool.


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 whembly wrote:
I'm actually digging it.

And what's up with old-man, grey haired Arnold?

Seems like there's multiple Arnuld Terminators from different timelines?

yeah, I was wondering about that. An aging terminator?


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 Carlson793 wrote:
So...looks like they're finally trying to correct the massive paradox introduced at the end of T2. Dunno if it's worth the effort.

Could someone explain that paradox to me please?


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 Swastakowey wrote:
Special effects looks kinda bad.

I think it was the first or the second one that had the flash backs to the war in the future. That is the movie I want to see.

The human resistance, fighting constant guerrilla warfare against ever changing machines. Hitting facilities in a desperate attempt to eliminate skynet. At the end of the movie they realize the only way to beat skynet is to kill it before it begins...

I dont know, the last few movies kind of sucked. I wanna see the future how it was portrayed initially!

I'm still waiting to see the Resistance's final victory over Skynet in the future, which prompted Skynet to send back the very first Terminator assassin (Terminator 1). Thats the movie I want to see. Basically a direct sequel to Terminator Salvation - with no more time travel. All these time travelling terminator assassin plots are getting...well, unoriginal. This is what...the 4th film involving time travelling assassins? (5th if you count the tv show).



As disliked as Terminator Salvation was, it was the most original film since the very first, as it covered new ground. I'm not bothered if the future is changed considerably from the vision that the first film gave us, as time travel will do that. But I really want to see this franchise come to an end, with a bang, by showing us Skynet's final demise at the hands of the Resistance in the future.

Did you want to see Skynet die? This is, of course, the only post-T2 canon worth watching.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Did you want to see Skynet die? This is, of course, the only post-T2 canon worth watching.

yeah, I've visited the parks and experienced that attraction first hand.

But no. I wanted a direct Terminator: Salvation sequel. I guess Terminator: Gene-whats-it? will have to do.

 whembly wrote:
I'm actually digging it.

And what's up with old-man, grey haired Arnold?

Seems like there's multiple Arnuld Terminators from different timelines?

I'm guessing it's a terminator that was sent back either way before, or was dropped in wrong time. As for the aging, they've said several times in other movies it's living tissue over the skeleton. So who's to say it doesn't grow old.

It could be the person the Arnold terminator was modelled on as is said in the S M Stirling novels.

I recommend those really, they're a good continuation from T2. My eyes have glazed over with the subsequent films.

Which S.M. Stirling novel should we start with?

There are three, 'Infiltrator' is the first and 'Future War' the last. Not sure of the one in the middle. They look big books but are a breezy read and I flew through them.

I find the future war topic somewhat dull, because we know that Skynet is losing and turning to time travel through desperation, and all that achieves is preparing humanity even more for the future and further securing the defeat of skynet. We get glimpses of it through the first two films and that's great, because it's best as a shadowy horrible future. Books and films set in the war are just going to be blowing robots up. That's not interesting and we already know that Skynet is losing so there's no drama. The more it's depicted the less impact it has.

The 'Future War' novel is set just before the war and then moves through key events of the war which I felt was the best way to handle it because pages of fighting robots won't work.

The problem I have with the franchise is the premise is totally broken.

T1: If you go back into the past, you can change the future. Terrific.

T2: No fate but what we make: the future is not set. Expanding upon the theme. Great.

Then along comes Terminator 3 and it takes a post-garlic-wings upper-decker right on the whole franchise, with the idea that Judgement Day is inevitable, and the future is preordained. If that's the case, why is any of this even happening? Why is Skynet sending anyone back in time, if the future is set?

Sarah Connor Chronicles: Realizes that PT3 sort of broke the franchise, and picks up right after T2. Good series.

T4: For some reason, pretends Sarah Connor Chronicles never happened, and picks up after T3. The future is set, so again, why try and kill John Connor at all? Hell, why does Skynet even fight if they are predestined to lose?

So, now that's the poop-pile we find outselves building upon. I don't see any way for a good movie to come out of this, and that's before we get into the poor visual effects and so on. I love the franchise but they should either let it die, or at least completely reboot it like Robocop did. It seems like they're going to instead reboot it while acknowledging the previous timelines which again I find very problematic.

 Ashiraya wrote:
I expected 'Genisys' to be a typo.

me too.