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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Confirmation that Reanimation Protocols stayed.

Not necessarily... Warzone Valedor had a couple of rules invalidated by 7E literally the following week. It'll depend on how far apart this supplement and the codex were developed.

edit: oh and FWIW one of the Necron Lord models is now list as 'out of stock' in the UK

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Confirmation that Reanimation Protocols stayed.

Well, in name at least. Could still just be the equivalent of FnP with additional restrictions, like wiping the entire unit.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Confirmation that Reanimation Protocols stayed.

Or at least there is a rule named 'Reanimation Protocols'. Whether its the same rule or not, only time will tell...

The Lord looks amazing! And the Warriors look backwards? Did they swap the photo left to right? Don't Warrior guns point the other direction? I know these are converted barrels, but still?

 Kriswall wrote:
The Lord looks amazing! And the Warriors look backwards? Did they swap the photo left to right? Don't Warrior guns point the other direction? I know these are converted barrels, but still?

Some ass no doubt flipped the negative so to speak wouldn't be the first time it's happened.

 xttz wrote:
edit: oh and FWIW one of the Necron Lord models is now list as 'out of stock' in the UK

Just one of the old Finecast-ed sculpts.

That looks more like a conversion. Source?

I'm not to impressed with the detachment, given the way I play Necrons. I never need more troop slots, often running only two. It doesn't offer any boost for the underused models either. Those will probably have their own formation. Maybe one to make Lychguard relentless

I'm calling conversion on the lord. Unless another stormclaw esque box.

rtb01 wrote:
Unless another stormclaw esque box.

Or just a clampack character. That's the most likely.

The formation is crap, aside from pairing with a CAD for two LoW, and a huge points sink, it's worthless. The models are all conversions. Not promising start for the 'crons.

 NecronLord3 wrote:
The formation is crap, aside from pairing with a CAD for two LoW, and a huge points sink, it's worthless. The models are all conversions. Not promising start for the 'crons.

don't lose faith so fast mate, who knows what the new codex will hold.

Perhaps their may be new troops choices (codex structure reshuffle e.g. Destroyer lord unlocking destroyers as troops)

 NecronLord3 wrote:
The formation is crap, aside from pairing with a CAD for two LoW, and a huge points sink, it's worthless. The models are all conversions. Not promising start for the 'crons.

It's not a formation. It's a battle-forged detachment.
All you need is 3 troops and an HQ.
3 small warrior squads + Overlord = done.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 NecronLord3 wrote:
The formation is crap, aside from pairing with a CAD for two LoW, and a huge points sink, it's worthless. The models are all conversions. Not promising start for the 'crons.

It's not a formation. It's a battle-forged detachment.
All you need is 3 troops and an HQ.
3 small warrior squads + Overlord = done.

True, though you'll get the most out of the re-roll for Reanimation, if you field buckets of models.

As such, I think it is pretty cool. It makes armies with lots of Warriors a bit better vis-a-vis the more competitive stuff.

Arguably, thats kinda the point of formations/custom detachments... no? Buff up the not-so-competitive army variants a bit to make them more viable and encourage diversity?

The super-competitive builds don't really need a formation/custom-detachment to boost them even further.

20 Warriors led by a Lord with Res Orb in this detachment are pretty scary: coming back on 4+, re-roll 1s...

Wonderwolf wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 NecronLord3 wrote:
The formation is crap, aside from pairing with a CAD for two LoW, and a huge points sink, it's worthless. The models are all conversions. Not promising start for the 'crons.

It's not a formation. It's a battle-forged detachment.
All you need is 3 troops and an HQ.
3 small warrior squads + Overlord = done.

True, though you'll get the most out of the re-roll for Reanimation, if you field buckets of models.

As such, I think it is pretty cool. It makes armies with lots of Warriors a bit better vis-a-vis the more competitive stuff.

Arguably, thats kinda the point of formations/custom detachments... no? Buff up the not-so-competitive army variants a bit to make them more viable and encourage diversity?

The super-competitive builds don't really need a formation/custom-detachment to boost them even further.

Yeah, I can see that particular detachment catering to the traditional silver tide of death armies.

Depending on the list that formation is absolutely devastating. Forget not having any hard-hitters, you don't even need them. At 2,000 pts you're looking at:

Overlord (kitted out)
4x Lords w/ res orb
100x Warriors (5 squads of 20)
Triarch Stalker
5x Scarab swarm

If I'm mathing this out right it would take 257 bolter shots to completely eliminate a 20-man squad rezzing on 4+, rerolling 1s.

Also of note: This indicates that there will be multiple warlord charts based on the dynasties, which is similar to some early rumors.

Darnok just posted on Warseer

For now I don't have much but this:

Codex: Necrons to be released on the 31st of January
two clampack characters alongside the codex - nothing else

I expect some cards as well, but concerning new models it will only be those two clampacks. As can be seen in the SoB: Exterminatus book, some boxes of existing models will get a repackage with the new 32mm bases.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?403299-Necron-Rumours-Mk-II

So the kept the BA+Necron bro fist...

 Sir Arun wrote:
20 Warriors led by a Lord with Res Orb in this detachment are pretty scary: coming back on 4+, re-roll 1s...

Wow and all at at least 650 points.

One Daemon Prince is 10x better than all of that and at half the cost.

WayneTheGame wrote:
So the kept the BA+Necron bro fist...

Yes, there is yet hope! Our old friends, the Necrons, have come to aid us during our darkest hour! Come my metal brothers, let us reforge this ancient alliance and purge this system once again of our old nemesis! ONCE AND FOR ALL!

Anyway, two clampacks and a codex. Sounds exciting. I guess they don't really need much though, mainly just need to replace all the crappy Finecast characters.

A 4x 20 man squad army obviously have problems w/ blast/template weapons.
A Tyranids Moloc (sp?) would be very problematic.
AM would love to face this army as they could blast us from beyond our 24" range and we would have to slog across the battle field to them.

This would seem to be a problem with the Malestrom style games where movement is as important as everything else.

For that matter, a small throwaway squad of BA Death Company (or something suitably tough or av 2+) could tie up a 20x squad for most of the game as the larger foot print on 32mm bases would prevent the majority of units from fighting for a turn or two.

To recover maneuverability, you could put the squads in GAs but then their rerolls don't count as you are relying on AV13.

Rerolling 1's is 1/3 as good as an orb.
You get the benefit on 3 squads which makes it equivalent to a single orb.
You pay a 65pt tax to get it whereas you pay only 30pts to get it today.
It doesn't seem to make any sense for MSU as the benefits are too small.
If you do go silvertide then it becomes worth it but at the expense of fielding the silver tide which for the reasons above will not do well on a lot of table tops in 7th.

Now, if they begin to change the points cost of warriors/models per dynasty to reflect their unique natures then this could mean anything.
A 53pt warrior squad would negate the penalty.

Note: I am not trying to be negative but just noting that the benefit doesn't really seem like one.
I am looking forward to the new Lord Model and the new destroyers.
I only hope the new Codex provides reasons to take all of the Necron units not just random changes for the sake of change.

We're seeing points reductions on a lot of the new codexes which Makes sense from a business perspective so perhaps silver tide will be a little cheaper than you think. Maybe gauss will get a buff of some sort. You guys have no idea, not to mention any new war gear an OL might be able to take to upgrade our basic warriors.

Yep might come in 20pts cheaper, and still suck.

 NecronLord3 wrote:
Yep might come in 20pts cheaper, and still suck.

Then quit as soon as they're not precisely what you want them to be. I just wish that people who comment in this forum would act like adults instead of petulant little children who just had their toys taken away.

/e: Damn it, remembered it wrong

Just saw this on my facebook feed. Looks like new lord.

All conversions.

I've been closely watching necron rumors the past few days. Basically all of the major rumor sites like BoLS and Faeit 212 and even Spikeybits adopted the same false rumors about the necrons. I highly doubt a release so soon after a major Blood Angels release, and so close to Christmas. There is no indication of whatsoever of reboxing necron warriors, as those seen in White Dwarf are conversions as stated and shown in the magazine. Also the transition to 32 mm bases is creating a mass hysteria among the players. In my opinion this transition will take quite some time, it will not happen in a fortnight, even that will not justify a reboxing of the warriors just to get them on 32 mm bases. I'm not saying that we should ignore these rumors, but let's be honest, how näive must one be to believe in these fairy-tales. One glimpse of a converted necron warrior on a 32 mm base is creating a panic and is giving life to wild guessing and speculations.

All necrons on the new photos are on 32mm bases, only the lord has a 40mm or a 50mm base. So why should they not provide them with 32mm bases like they already did with the reboxed Sanguinary Guard and Death Company sets?