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privateer4hire wrote:

 RedSarge wrote:
Just want to say, after all I've read... I AM FRIGGIN EXCITED!

I actually bought the White Dwarf Issue 61? With the Mechanicum rules right inside the book, wow. Yeah, it's a short read, but I'm impressed.

ADEPTUS MECHANICUS guys! Adeptus Mechanicus! Whoo whooo!!

Cast off the fatigue of the trademark 'real life' and embrace the Machine Spirit! Praise the Omnissiah!

As someone who quit two editions back, can you play this army with just the White Dwarf and the core rulebook?

you'll need the codex for the doctrine imperatives etc. at least in theory, but barring any suprises it looks like the only rules in the book not avaliable on the rumors sections these days are the formations

 ClockworkZion wrote:
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So Dunestalkers have 2 kinds of feet.

I'll be honest, I like the larger pads that would make them have an easier time walking across soft and/or loose soil.

Then again that might be an upgrade. Either way mine will definitely get those standard.

The Dunestalker looks a lot better when you can see the rear part.

Technically (mechanically?) speaking, they should have HUGE snowshoe pads. Spiky legs would be absolutely worst - they'd penetrate into tarmac with each step, let alone into soft ground. So in a sense, the AA version should have those sunken into ground legs, and the regular version the huge pads.

migooo wrote:
Anyone else interested in the other colour schemes?

Definitely.

I'm currently wishlisting a Tallarn army composed of Tallarn models, various Arabic themed models, and post-apocalypse models.

I want to do more of a tan, grey, black, and red highlight color scheme. Will throw in some other colors, but only enough to give a less uniform look.

It is funny how they do not want to show a profile picture of the dune stalker. I was hoping it had some junk in the trunk! Makes me wonder if in the future we will see a six/eight legged transport version with a longer body.

 Schlyne wrote:

 Leth wrote:
Lol, rust stalker is already sold out.

Yeah, I'm one of those sad saps who dropped the cash on it. Feeling a little miffed now that I know that the regular dex is $33 for what i'm getting in the limited ed but I do admit the limited ed is gorgeous. Considering they've been throwing painting guides in like crazy with the last few dex's I'm a bit disappointed I'm not auto getting one with the limited release. The poster ought to be nice..but being double sided is a bit of a bummer.

The metal coin objective markers have always been super sweet though. I have the ork ones.

Nah man, I was just commenting on how it sold out so fast within a few hours of being posted. I am jelly that you were able to get one.

But yea I am looking at the kit trying to figure out what to use as additional arc weapons. I think the grav weapons from 30k will be perfect.

I've just picked up my new boxes and I must say that I'm impressed by the look of the models.

It may just be me but there appears to be an attempt to go for a less 'heroic' scale to these figures when compared to say the plastic Cadians.

In addition, the guide booklet actually has the full unit entry for the models. Now the Vanguard/ Rangers box is the first plastic set I have bought from GW for a while and I was aware that stat lines have been given in the booklets for some time but this is the first occasion I have seen a full unit, point cost and upgrade box. Have you in effect been given the rules for 'free'? Image is shown below.




In addition, I received trinkets with my mail order.

Now, opinions differ as to the worth of said trinkets but come on!!

Who doesn't love Mechanicus car stickers?



..or a Dark Angels Tactical pin (hint for upcoming Horus Heresy??? )




I assume Dark Angels because of the numeral 'I' and HH because I've never seen the 'I' laid over the horizontal Tac arrows before.

In addition there was a download code for credits in the HH Drop Pod game.

Now looking forward to putting together some troops. Two squads of 5 Rangers and a 10 strong Vanguard.

alphaecho wrote:

I've just picked up my new boxes and I must say that I'm impressed by the look of the models.

It may just be me but there appears to be an attempt to go for a less 'heroic' scale to these figures when compared to say the plastic Cadians.

In addition, the guide booklet actually has the full unit entry for the models. Now the Vanguard/ Rangers box is the first plastic set I have bought from GW for a while and I was aware that stat lines have been given in the booklets for some time but this is the first occasion I have seen a full unit, point cost and upgrade box. Have you in effect been given the rules for 'free'? Image is shown below.




In addition, I received trinkets with my mail order.

Now, opinions differ as to the worth of said trinkets but come on!!

Who doesn't love Mechanicus car stickers?



..or a Dark Angels Tactical pin (hint for upcoming Horus Heresy??? )




I assume Dark Angels because of the numeral 'I' and HH because I've never seen the 'I' laid over the horizontal Tac arrows before.

In addition there was a download code for credits in the HH Drop Pod game.

Now looking forward to putting together some troops. Two squads of 5 Rangers and a 10 strong Vanguard.

Could also be inquisition maybe ?

Those car decals are awesome! My Volvo needs the power of the Machine Spirit!

alphaecho wrote:
It may just be me but there appears to be an attempt to go for a less 'heroic' scale to these figures when compared to say the plastic Cadians.

Plastic Cadians are not "heroic" scale, they just have horrible proportions (as a whole they are simply terrible, one of the worst plastic kits I've ever seen). It's believed whoever sculpted them had never seen a normal human being before.

 Korinov wrote:

alphaecho wrote:
It may just be me but there appears to be an attempt to go for a less 'heroic' scale to these figures when compared to say the plastic Cadians.

Plastic Cadians are not "heroic" scale, they just have horrible proportions (as a whole they are simply terrible, one of the worst plastic kits I've ever seen). It's believed whoever sculpted them had never seen a normal human being before.

Meh, I understand why GW has the proportions they do. As someone who is not the best painter I appreciate that some of the things are a little exaggerated so it is easier for me to paint. I look at ranges like infinity and while the proportions and the like are more accurate I just am scared to paint them.

 Korinov wrote:

alphaecho wrote:
It may just be me but there appears to be an attempt to go for a less 'heroic' scale to these figures when compared to say the plastic Cadians.

Plastic Cadians are not "heroic" scale, they just have horrible proportions (as a whole they are simply terrible, one of the worst plastic kits I've ever seen). It's believed whoever sculpted them had never seen a normal human being before.

It actually is a question of the scale that GW used at the time.

When plastic Cadians first came out with the Eye of Terror campaign? They were pretty much in line with the other plastic ranges that GW had available.
Brian Nelson(the sculptor of the plastic Cadians) has also done the plastic Cadian/Catachan command sets, a large quantity of FW's Cadian range, and a large number of the metal Cadian models that came out at the same time as the plastic Cadians. Compare those items to the initial release and you can very reasonably infer that it was decided at the time for scale purposes to do the plastics that way.

Could someone with the Skitarii kit post pictures of the bare heads and legs without the torso attached. I'd like to see whether the legs are usable with a robeless torso.

Any info or pictures of the different forgeworld colour scheme from the skitarii codex ?

This new format for the GW web store is bugging me... why have a bundle of Ironstriders if they're the same price as buying three individually? So you don't have ot click add to cart three times, or adjust the quantity?


And advertising the Ironstrider kit, the Skitarii Rangers/Vanguard and the Sicarion Ruststalkers/Infiltrators as separate kits, just shows that GW thinks 'WE' don't know how to buy an army.... like we would get easily confused.
"Mummy, I want the gun AT-ST's! But I don't know where there are on the website?"

It's just padding, making the range look bigger than it is.. like making a codex based on two plastic kits.. *cough* Tempestus Scions *cough*

/rant

Really like the look of them all together in the army shot. I was gonna grab the rust stalker codex but decided to just wait for the normal one when my flgs has it, not in any rush.

Not the hugest fan of the red color scheme, I know it's mars and all, but I'm prolly gonna paint mine more along the lines of iron warriors.. metalic with yella n black caution lines and stuff. And skulls.

 RedSarge wrote:
This new format for the GW web store is bugging me... why have a bundle of Ironstriders if they're the same price as buying three individually? So you don't have ot click add to cart three times, or adjust the quantity?


And advertising the Ironstrider kit, the Skitarii Rangers/Vanguard and the Sicarion Ruststalkers/Infiltrators as separate kits, just shows that GW thinks 'WE' don't know how to buy an army.... like we would get easily confused.
"Mummy, I want the gun AT-ST's! But I don't know where there are on the website?"

It's just padding, making the range look bigger than it is.. like making a codex based on two plastic kits.. *cough* Tempestus Scions *cough*

/rant

One click bundles are for lazy consumers. Seeing as they haven't gone away yet, it's clear that they're actually creating extra sales.

And advertising each unit a kit can make as a seperate kit makes it easier for gift shoppers or new players to find what they need with less need to try and figure out which kit is a dual kit with what. It's not something for the vets, it's for everyone else.

Also Knights are a codex made from a single model kit. It's not padding to increase the size of the range though, it's improved ease for customers to shop around the store with. It doesn't effect you because you're a vet player, but it apparently works or else they wouldn't keep spending the time making separate pages for every single variant.

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
It is funny how they do not want to show a profile picture of the dune stalker. I was hoping it had some junk in the trunk! Makes me wonder if in the future we will see a six/eight legged transport version with a longer body.

I doubt it. They would have included the option in the new kit.

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
It is funny how they do not want to show a profile picture of the dune stalker. I was hoping it had some junk in the trunk! Makes me wonder if in the future we will see a six/eight legged transport version with a longer body.

Sort of like a Taurox mounted on Defiler legs?

T

BrianDavion wrote:

privateer4hire wrote:
....can you play this army with just the White Dwarf and the core rulebook?

you'll need the codex for the doctrine imperatives etc. at least in theory, but barring any suprises it looks like the only rules in the book not avaliable on the rumors sections these days are the formations

I'm a little annoyed that WD 61 says "FULL RULES!" and then doesn't include the Doctrina Imperatives (unless I'm missing something?), but for US$4 it's a lot of content.

I'm torn over whether to buy the Skitari codex or wait for the full AdMech 'dex -- if that's even a thing that's happening.

But otherwise I'm totally enthused. Cool models, interesting rules, and a long-overdue tabletop presence for one of the most important factions in the Imperium. (Titans are cool but you can't exactly play them as your main army). As a Sisters fan who totally thinks the Sororitas deserve a much fuller codex, I still think the AdMech have hitherto been screwed over even worse than Sisters, which is saying something.

PS: From a Sororitas perspective, all the folks lamenting "oh noes, the models are only Toughness 3" are pretty freakin' hilarious.

 Crimson wrote:
Could someone with the Skitarii kit post pictures of the bare heads and legs without the torso attached. I'd like to see whether the legs are usable with a robeless torso.

I'll try to get a good photo of the heads. I think some of the legs would be OK but others have flat patches where the robes hang.

Anyone else disappointed you cannot mix & match the legs & torsos?


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 RedFox wrote:
Any info or pictures of the different forgeworld colour scheme from the skitarii codex ?

Just the one from WD62 so far -

timd wrote:

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
It is funny how they do not want to show a profile picture of the dune stalker. I was hoping it had some junk in the trunk! Makes me wonder if in the future we will see a six/eight legged transport version with a longer body.

Sort of like a Taurox mounted on Defiler legs?

T

I'd actually want the legs to be smaller and maybe tripod!

 SisterSydney wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

privateer4hire wrote:
....can you play this army with just the White Dwarf and the core rulebook?

you'll need the codex for the doctrine imperatives etc. at least in theory, but barring any suprises it looks like the only rules in the book not avaliable on the rumors sections these days are the formations

I'm a little annoyed that WD 61 says "FULL RULES!" and then doesn't include the Doctrina Imperatives (unless I'm missing something?), but for US$4 it's a lot of content.

I'm torn over whether to buy the Skitari codex or wait for the full AdMech 'dex -- if that's even a thing that's happening.

But otherwise I'm totally enthused. Cool models, interesting rules, and a long-overdue tabletop presence for one of the most important factions in the Imperium. (Titans are cool but you can't exactly play them as your main army). As a Sisters fan who totally thinks the Sororitas deserve a much fuller codex, I still think the AdMech have hitherto been screwed over even worse than Sisters, which is saying something.

PS: From a Sororitas perspective, all the folks lamenting "oh noes, the models are only Toughness 3" are pretty freakin' hilarious.

They're T3 with a 4+ and 6+ FnP. Sisters are T3, with a 3+ and a 6++. Though all the Skitarri models are relentless, have longer range on most of their weapons and are either a point cheaper (Rangers who also have Move Through Cover) or 3 points cheaper (Vanguard) than your basic Battle Sister.

Honestly, while it looks like the Sisters are more durable, the Skitarri can put more bodies on the board, engage the enemy with weapons sooner, and don't get AP'd out by most standard weapons like Bolters or Pulse Rifles.

Like with Sisters, I think the best way to run Skitarri squads is with a full 10 models just because the larger size will keep them around longer, and they can potentially deal more damage. I'd also put serious consideration into a fortification for the army too (like Vengance Batteries or a Void Shield Generator), and probably allying in a Knight just to put more high value targets on the board that will negate wounds against the Skitarri models, or provide more tempting targets. Personally I'm looking at putting a Magaera into the list just because a Lighting Cannon seem pretty appropriate thematically (though someday I plan on getting a Styrix too. Because Volkite is awesome. And then, at some later point, getting an Archaeon, Castigator and Errant for my Sisters army. Because having access to the holy trinity in knight form would be awesome).

Skitarri, in my opinion at least, look incredibly well balanced, being a bit of a glass hammer, but less of one than Dark Eldar. They have a lot of good offense, some fun, tricky stuff, but can't be played like Marines. At least not unless they get a lot of cheap transports in the main army book. We'll see when that drops though.


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From Bolter and Chainsword:

The alpha shooting doctrine sounds like the Matrix! That's funny. Guessing that's the +3 BS / -2 WS one.

Sisters are definitely more durable. But according to the best rumour mongers they are so far away it's not worth even thinking about them any more. At least not starting them.

In a battlefield role I would use ( depends on points ) but for example 2000 I would use squads of 5 for sisters and 10 of Skitari

Sisters have the imolator as transportation where as Skitari don't have any need really for transport.

BrianDavion wrote:

privateer4hire wrote:

 RedSarge wrote:
Just want to say, after all I've read... I AM FRIGGIN EXCITED!

I actually bought the White Dwarf Issue 61? With the Mechanicum rules right inside the book, wow. Yeah, it's a short read, but I'm impressed.

ADEPTUS MECHANICUS guys! Adeptus Mechanicus! Whoo whooo!!

Cast off the fatigue of the trademark 'real life' and embrace the Machine Spirit! Praise the Omnissiah!

As someone who quit two editions back, can you play this army with just the White Dwarf and the core rulebook?

you'll need the codex for the doctrine imperatives etc. at least in theory, but barring any suprises it looks like the only rules in the book not avaliable on the rumors sections these days are the formations

Thank you. May pick up some for other game systems then.

So the Radium Jezzail and Phosphor Serpenta weapons, where do these fit in the army list?

I do not recall them being available to any of the units with dataslates in White Dwarf's #61 and 62...so if they are not do they perhaps point to a Clam pack HQ with these options?

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
So the Radium Jezzail and Phosphor Serpenta weapons, where do these fit in the army list?

I do not recall them being available to any of the units with dataslates in White Dwarf's #61 and 62...so if they are not do they perhaps point to a Clam pack HQ with these options?

Reread the Sydonian Dragoon entry.

Because they're both upgrades for the unit.

The radium jezail is an option for the lancer, as is the Serpenta

beast_gts wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Could someone with the Skitarii kit post pictures of the bare heads and legs without the torso attached. I'd like to see whether the legs are usable with a robeless torso.

I'll try to get a good photo of the heads. I think some of the legs would be OK but others have flat patches where the robes hang.

Anyone else disappointed you cannot mix & match the legs & torsos?


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 RedFox wrote:
Any info or pictures of the different forgeworld colour scheme from the skitarii codex ?

Just the one from WD62 so far -

Spoiler:

Whoa, those white skitarii look really nice.
I might copy it

 Kanluwen wrote:

Reread the Sydonian Dragoon entry.

Because they're both upgrades for the unit.

Gah...thanks. Daftly getting my hopes up.