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lliu wrote:
I don't care how expensive they are. If they actually make them, I'm happy.

That sounds like a dare.

While I'm not a Heresy fan I'd rather see this than seperate kits for every Chapter, or more goofy new units like the Centurions. If GW has to make moar Marines, sure, go for some of the other armour designs.

 the_Armyman wrote:

So, just to summarize: 40K with a majority of the game composed of power armor, HH is power armor all the time, and rumors of Warhammer Fantasy introducing a new faction of heavily armored knights similar to Space Marines. Anyone at all concerned about that?

they've actually already done this twice - 50/50 in the Slaves to Darkness & the Lost & the Damned rules where champions could be granted boltguns & power armour & in the original Warhammer Siege book.

I wonder where all those powerswords and powerfists from the island of Albion ever went to........


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30k for a setting? Huge armies of plastic Space Marines, with titans and superheavies all over the place?

I've got it! Reprint Titan Legions and Space Marine!!!

Some of us are already playing Heresy at 6mm scale ;-)

http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24216

 the_Armyman wrote:
Is there really this vast, untapped market of heresy players who have sat out because of FW's prices? I would imagine that the people who want to play HH have ponied-up the cash and are happily painting their Mark-whatever armor. I get that it's popular and that I'm in the minority because it doesn't apeal to me, I just don't see what customer this is intended for.

I know in my area there are a fair number of people, myself included, that would buy the older Marks of armor if the price was reasonable and they weren't resin.(Finecast made a bad impression where resin is concerned)

Pretty flipping sweet!!!

I think that the Warhammer 30K figures and kits are amazing! I'm curious to see if the plastics even come close to measuring up.


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I sure won't play Fantasy if it starts to even vaguely resemble those nasty Warmachine models.


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Heck, I'll even use 30K plastics to make my Chaos army, much better in my opinion than the current Chaos Marines!!

If it is 28mm
then

Well all I can say is that I have seen better Chinese recasts better than FW stuff and the Russians do a very good recast job as well. So all in all If this is true, might actually get some FW product in plastic.

Hmm...apparently, all the unnecessary traffic to the 'GW Horus Heresy' has convinced GW to put a 404 on the page.

Oops, cat's already out of the bag....

Another SM kit. Great! Even more armor bits to differentiate my Marines from one another - unless it's dupes of stuff that's already in circulation. That'd suck.

 Breotan wrote:
Another SM kit. Great! Even more armor bits to differentiate my Marines from one another - unless it's dupes of stuff that's already in circulation. That'd suck.

Unless you're Chaos, in which case you'll have Mk.VII and a bit of Mk.V and you'll be damned well happy about it! Now go for forge a fething narrative, worthless Chaos players whilst we prep the new Dark Angel Tac Squad which will be 0.03% different to the last one.

This would be happening after I took delivery of my last lot of Marines for my 30k army.

I am very interested in how GW will handle the scale of Marines, FW's 30k Marines are very different, I wouldn't want to stand 40k sized Marines next to them unless it was a stand in for a Marine character who is meant to be larger.

The FW prices have been the thing that's keeping me from a HH army, so this may tip me over the edge (like many others) to get into the series. Well played GW... Let's just hope they do it properly as with such an opportunity it can only be GW who it up!

Also tried the HH page link, came up with this... Automated message or GW noticing us and trying to kill the rumours?

I'm not sure how I feel about this. Plastic Heresy era minis would be really nice, but in a way I'd prefer GW to focus on expanding the 40k races and let Forgeworld finish off what they're doing for HH. The recent Harlequins release was great, and has got me interested in 40k again after a while away from wargaming. I'd like to see more minor factions return before they commit resources to 30k.

 Samus666 wrote:
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Plastic Heresy era minis would be really nice, but in a way I'd prefer GW to focus on expanding the 40k races and let Forgeworld finish off what they're doing for HH. The recent Harlequins release was great, and has got me interested in 40k again after a while away from wargaming. I'd like to see more minor factions return before they commit resources to 30k.

The same rumour that first broke this HH stuff also mentioned both Deathwatch and Genestealer Cults getting books and models in the future, and we have Ad Mech coming in March apparently.

Honestly, I think I'd rather GW do new stuff (both HH and these mini-factions) than just trot out one-kit codexes. I think Space Wolves was the last time a codex actually introduced something new, GK, DE, BA and Crons have all been either reskins of existing models or nothing at all. THe current books have really reached saturation point, so I'm all for going in different directions.

AdMech is coming in May, isn't it? Hastings hasn't mentioned a date but the very reliable Lords of Wargaming said two Adeptus Mechanicus codex books and a spider-walker amongst other AdMech products in May

I may well be wrong, it was just off the top of my head. I thought AdMech was slated for March and this HH stuff was coming in May?

As others have said, this makes perfect sense to me; switch the core 30k troops to plastic and let FW continue with all the cooler, more esoteric stuff.

The ability to buy the bulk of a 30k army at a reasonable price (and easier to build) would make it very difficult to resist buying in. Plus it would make a cool upgrade pack for veterans, command squads, etc. plus maybe even poor, neglected CSM.

All of which represents a startling degree of common sense, therefore almost certainly untrue(!)

No problem. End of March there will be a 40k Supplement book featuring Khorne (a Darnok and Sad Panda rumor - so pretty much confirmed), which adds the new Bloodthirster(s) to CSM and Daemon armies.

March/April releases are unkown at the moment. May is Adeptus Mechanicus from GW and the HH boxed game is not in May, both according to Lords of Wargaming.

The HH box could be March/April or June. July brings the 9th edition of WFB. I also read on Warseer, there are no more WFB releases after End Times V and before 9th edition. Not sure if this excludes another Greater Daemon kit for both systems though.

There will be lots of free release slots for 30k/40k though, so we could see some nice surprises soon

While I have to confess a slight feeling of dread as to what they're going to do with this, and how it might get all screwed up, that is tempered with a degree of excitement.

Change isn't always good, but it does at least offer the prospect of improvement.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Change isn't always good, but it does at least offer the prospect of improvement.

Well, either that or higher prices.

Wait a sec, 30k setting, different rules to 40k, separate starter set? Isn't that what space marine was all about lol.

From a production point of view it's rather easy: just produce a single marine kit and put two of them in a box to represent two factions. I mean, that's what GW did with the original Space Marine (first edition of Epic) game.

Can't we get some nice new Chaos Marines first?

All these GW rumours coming out suggests a lot of false information or that mania has engulfed the design studio.

 Medium of Death wrote:
Can't we get some nice new Chaos Marines first?

No.


You asked. *shrug*

You don't ask, you don't get.

You ask, you don't get.

Such is life.

Gw will not do it any time soon gw are currently doing daemons if you havent seen the new blood thirster.

Ever since FW started HH I've been tempted to add some 'The Heresy was only yesterday for us' Night Lords to my 40K Chaos Marine army.

If these rumours are accurate and dependant on whether they can mix and match with the FW bits it looks like I may be able to do it on the cheap (compared to a purely FW project).