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Ferrus Manus, Iron Hands of the Iron Hands

Angron the Angry Primarch


Though, to be fair, most primarch names are just puns and references.

Ferrus Manus steals this by a country mile only because his Legion has the same name.

I don't have any problem with Ferrus Manus since he actually had metal hands, it isn't much different from say.. Emperor Frederick Barbarossa (Fredereck Redbeard). That his sons choose to both mimic him with bionic hand replacement and adopt the same descriptive name is a bit creepy but well within accepted parameters of human behavior, and it does actually work as name, after all did they not do his bidding as if they were his own hands?

 Wyzilla wrote:
Pretty sure Guilliman is an IRL French town or something, so not that ridiculous at all.

I'd nominate Ferrus Manus.Who the hell names their son Iron Hands?

dunno about a town, but both Robute and Gulliman are IIRC french names. there's nothing unusal about it. in fact he's proably got the most useal name of the primarchs

Ferrus Manus and Corvus Corax are the worst for reasons mentioned above. Ferrus Manus is ever so slightly worse as he has "iron" hands and led a legion known as the Iron hands. With Corax, you just had the raven leading the raven guard... Regardless, they are by far the most lazy names.

As for whoever said something along the lines of what kind of parent names their child Perturabo... Clearly the kind of parent who decides that this kid is going to be ignored and ostracized by the rest of the family. (jokes aside, Perturabo is either tied for first favorite Primarch or is my second favorite Primarch)

From a fluff perspective, these names remind me of the man who named one son Winner and the other Loser, a miserable and arguably sadistic experiment. Just impresses upon me that the Emperor was an donkey-cave or too stubborn to bother asking around for some good names.

Hell, a version of Jackson "Jax" Briggs would have been a better choice for Ferrus Manus and maybe some combination of Tecumseh and Edgar Allan Poe for Corvus Corax...

And I agree, Alpharius and Omegon could have used better names, or found a way to be more subtle.

Just impresses upon me that the Emperor was an donkey-cave or too stubborn to bother asking around for some good names.

in fairness the emperor didn't name the primarchs. I mean what was he gonna do immediatly tell the primarch upon meeting him "yeah your name sucks, I'm renaming you"? that'd be a donkey-cave move even for the emperor

...Oh, this little kid is adorable! Let's name him ANGRON!!11

ChazSexington wrote:Being named after Lionel Johnson, a late 19th century poet, Lion El'Jonson has the silliest name.

Konrad Curze, from Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now, Angron, and Ferrus Manus, are also pretty silly.

I don't find Roboute's name silly - I've always thought it would be pronounced as if it were French.

Because Rub-oot Gooey-man is so much better? :p

Anyway, personally I voted for the Red Commoner.

 koooaei wrote:
...Oh, this little kid is adorable! Let's name him ANGRON!!11

Considering he never had any parents and was named by a slaver, what you've just said is void and null.

 Khonsu wrote:

 koooaei wrote:
...Oh, this little kid is adorable! Let's name him ANGRON!!11

Considering he never had any parents and was named by a slaver, what you've just said is void and null.

I don't thing koooaei was being entirely serious...

Angry Ron takes my vote.

I picked Ferrus Manus. Not even trying with that one!

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Gashrog wrote:
Lion'El Johnson because it was changed to make it so recognizable that nobody could miss it, originally he was named Lyyn Elgonsen.

....But it's still not silly at all. Leon Johnson would not make anyone bat an eye. Nor would Lionel Johnson. The only thing weird bout Lion El'Johnson is the El' part, but all it means is serving the same purpose as Von in German, De in French, Of in English, etc. A more direct version of the name in modern-day English would be Leon of Johnson or Lionel of Johnson, or for a more direct translation of his name's meaning in 40k, Leon Deforest.

All of which mean "Lion of the Forest" more or less in modern English and French. I mean seriously, you could totally run into a person named Leon Deforest and it would not be unique enough to even bat an eye at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Johnson

Well...

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Gashrog wrote:
Lion'El Johnson because it was changed to make it so recognizable that nobody could miss it, originally he was named Lyyn Elgonsen.

....But it's still not silly at all. Leon Johnson would not make anyone bat an eye. Nor would Lionel Johnson. The only thing weird bout Lion El'Johnson is the El' part, but all it means is serving the same purpose as Von in German, De in French, Of in English, etc. A more direct version of the name in modern-day English would be Leon of Johnson or Lionel of Johnson, or for a more direct translation of his name's meaning in 40k, Leon Deforest.

All of which mean "Lion of the Forest" more or less in modern English and French. I mean seriously, you could totally run into a person named Leon Deforest and it would not be unique enough to even bat an eye at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Johnson

Well...

That doesn't make it silly though. In fact as Primarchs go, naming him after a poet who wrote a poem called 'the dark angel' is downright subtle.

I chose Vulkan. It seemed lazy...which I found silly considering how expansive this universe is.

Ferrus Manus. The rest are names, he's his Legion name in pseudo-Latin.

Corvus Corax should be a name nevermore

 ImAGeek wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Gashrog wrote:
Lion'El Johnson because it was changed to make it so recognizable that nobody could miss it, originally he was named Lyyn Elgonsen.

....But it's still not silly at all. Leon Johnson would not make anyone bat an eye. Nor would Lionel Johnson. The only thing weird bout Lion El'Johnson is the El' part, but all it means is serving the same purpose as Von in German, De in French, Of in English, etc. A more direct version of the name in modern-day English would be Leon of Johnson or Lionel of Johnson, or for a more direct translation of his name's meaning in 40k, Leon Deforest.

All of which mean "Lion of the Forest" more or less in modern English and French. I mean seriously, you could totally run into a person named Leon Deforest and it would not be unique enough to even bat an eye at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Johnson

Well...

That doesn't make it silly though. In fact as Primarchs go, naming him after a poet who wrote a poem called 'the dark angel' is downright subtle.

He lived a solitary life in London, struggling with alcoholism and his repressed homosexuality.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeell

 ChazSexington wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Gashrog wrote:
Lion'El Johnson because it was changed to make it so recognizable that nobody could miss it, originally he was named Lyyn Elgonsen.

....But it's still not silly at all. Leon Johnson would not make anyone bat an eye. Nor would Lionel Johnson. The only thing weird bout Lion El'Johnson is the El' part, but all it means is serving the same purpose as Von in German, De in French, Of in English, etc. A more direct version of the name in modern-day English would be Leon of Johnson or Lionel of Johnson, or for a more direct translation of his name's meaning in 40k, Leon Deforest.

All of which mean "Lion of the Forest" more or less in modern English and French. I mean seriously, you could totally run into a person named Leon Deforest and it would not be unique enough to even bat an eye at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Johnson

Well...

That doesn't make it silly though. In fact as Primarchs go, naming him after a poet who wrote a poem called 'the dark angel' is downright subtle.

He lived a solitary life in London, struggling with alcoholism and his repressed homosexuality.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeell

All other Primarchs (well, except Corax) were named after something cool. Lion 'elJohnson was named after a depressed closet homosexual poet. That is not very cool. It is also silly that they did not change his name. He is literally just named Lionel Johnson. Had they gone with Lyyn Elgonsen, it would have been better.

Also it carries unfortunate implications for his legion. What is the real secret of the Dark Angels?



However, whether it is as silly as Primarch Iron Hands who has iron hands of the Iron Hands who also have iron hands is up for debate.

 ChazSexington wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Gashrog wrote:
Lion'El Johnson because it was changed to make it so recognizable that nobody could miss it, originally he was named Lyyn Elgonsen.

....But it's still not silly at all. Leon Johnson would not make anyone bat an eye. Nor would Lionel Johnson. The only thing weird bout Lion El'Johnson is the El' part, but all it means is serving the same purpose as Von in German, De in French, Of in English, etc. A more direct version of the name in modern-day English would be Leon of Johnson or Lionel of Johnson, or for a more direct translation of his name's meaning in 40k, Leon Deforest.

All of which mean "Lion of the Forest" more or less in modern English and French. I mean seriously, you could totally run into a person named Leon Deforest and it would not be unique enough to even bat an eye at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Johnson

Well...

That doesn't make it silly though. In fact as Primarchs go, naming him after a poet who wrote a poem called 'the dark angel' is downright subtle.

He lived a solitary life in London, struggling with alcoholism and his repressed homosexuality.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeell

I'm still not seeing why that makes them silly, unless you're making some immature gay joke.

We are all children here.

 ImAGeek wrote:


I'm still not seeing why that makes them silly, unless you're making some immature gay joke.

Right, there's nothing wrong with being gay (at all), but a primarch named after a gay poet, whose current resting place is named after a gay club in Nottingham, is pretty silly. It's the equivalent of Boab Bylan, the primarch currently on the planet Woodstock.

 Great White wrote:
Corvus Corax should be a name nevermore

Nah, his name should be Quothe. :p

 ChazSexington wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


I'm still not seeing why that makes them silly, unless you're making some immature gay joke.

Right, there's nothing wrong with being gay (at all), but a primarch named after a gay poet, whose current resting place is named after a gay club in Nottingham, is pretty silly. It's the equivalent of Boab Bylan, the primarch currently on the planet Woodstock.

I don't agree at all, especially when compared to Angron the angry Primach, Corvus Corax or Ferrus Manus.

In the more recent BL HH audio books they pronounce Roboute Guilliman as "Ro-Butt-Ayy Gill-Iman" and I think it sounds just fine, in my head it was always "Rob-Yowt Gwill-ee-man", but the new, official(?) pronunciation is wonderful I think.

Back on topic, I voted Corvus Corax, it's just a bit dull.
Also, don't some Primarchs have longer names now? Horus Lupercal, Lorgar Aurelian, I love their surnames.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


I'm still not seeing why that makes them silly, unless you're making some immature gay joke.

Right, there's nothing wrong with being gay (at all), but a primarch named after a gay poet, whose current resting place is named after a gay club in Nottingham, is pretty silly. It's the equivalent of Boab Bylan, the primarch currently on the planet Woodstock.

I don't agree at all, especially when compared to Angron the angry Primach, Corvus Corax or Ferrus Manus.

Which is fair enough, but I don't agree. But picking between Lion and Ferrus was difficult.

 ChazSexington wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


I'm still not seeing why that makes them silly, unless you're making some immature gay joke.

Right, there's nothing wrong with being gay (at all), but a primarch named after a gay poet, whose current resting place is named after a gay club in Nottingham, is pretty silly. It's the equivalent of Boab Bylan, the primarch currently on the planet Woodstock.

I don't agree at all, especially when compared to Angron the angry Primach, Corvus Corax or Ferrus Manus.

Which is fair enough, but I don't agree. But picking between Lion and Ferrus was difficult.

Then that's fair enough too

Angryon because he is so angry the emporer predicted he would be this angry and gave him that name.

 dragoonmaster101 wrote:
Angryon because he is so angry the emporer predicted he would be this angry and gave him that name.

We're done here, folks. Head on home.

The only names that arn't silly are Magnus, Horus, Lorgar, Leman Russ.

Leman Russ because its a badass name with connotations of wildness and ferocity while having no obvious connection to his theme (Like Lion, Kurze, or Alpharius)

Magnus is somewhat silly because its the Latin word for Great (size) and huge, but for one unversed in Latin it commands authority.

Lorgar because its a unique name with a dark sound to it.

And Horus, not only badass, was also a very important God in Ancient Egypt, I believe.