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2015/07/04 14:59:09
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Samurai_Eduh wrote: Most of the warscrolls seems fine. It's mainly just special characters that have the silly rules.
Not if you play greenskins...
Excuse me, 'orrukin'.
I mean, I get into the games. I'll trash-talk a unit of goblins that squabbles instead of flank-charging, or order a squad of guardsmen executed for poor accuracy on an incoming Hive Tyrant, but it's...weird when the game itself makes you do it. It's different, you're doing it every turn for a bonus and the amusement value wears off really quickly. Once or twice on a fitting special character, like Marius Leitdorf? That's excusable. Giving it to practically every faction?
I don't want Warhammer: Unglued.
Guess this gives me an excuse to multibase my gobbos into nifty dioramas and head out for Mantica! It's a real shame, because I love the universe, but I guess I still have my RPG books. And that Mount and Blade mod. And the upcoming Total War...
2015/07/04 15:02:45
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Samurai_Eduh wrote: Most of the warscrolls seems fine. It's mainly just special characters that have the silly rules.
Not if you play greenskins...
Excuse me, 'orrukin'.
I mean, I get into the games. I'll trash-talk a unit of goblins that squabbles instead of flank-charging, or order a squad of guardsmen executed for poor accuracy on an incoming Hive Tyrant, but it's...weird when the game itself makes you do it. It's different, you're doing it every turn for a bonus and the amusement value wears off really quickly. Once or twice on a fitting special character, like Marius Leitdorf? That's excusable. Giving it to practically every faction?
I don't want Warhammer: Unglued.
Guess this gives me an excuse to multibase my gobbos into nifty dioramas and head out for Mantica! It's a real shame, because I love the universe, but I guess I still have my RPG books. And that Mount and Blade mod. And the upcoming Total War...
Then don't forgot about Grail Knights and giving an oath to the lady of the lake every turn your in combat with a grail of some kind.
Welp the starter set models are nice enough so just need to rebase the chaos guys and I've got a nice expansion to my armies.
2015/07/04 15:05:10
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
EDIT: Bah... funny url aside, its just a rehash of the Warseer / Dakka concerns making the rounds. I'm not surprised.
A game where you get mechanical bonuses for ignoring society's grooming standards, drinking while you play, screaming loudly, talking to no-one in particular and avoiding eye contact is just what miniatures wargames needed!
Oh - also for insulting your opponents!
Hitting it way out of the ballpark there. BoLS. And it doesn't even feel like a broken clock moment. Damn.
2015/07/04 15:08:10
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Matt.Kingsley wrote: Yeah don't worry H.B.M.C., my post wasn't aimed at you. As Thraxas said, in an earlier post someone had a bit of a rant about the new rules in which they said everyone who enjoys them are either 5 year olds or have some mental problem.
And wow that Wulfik rule... Say "War" commandingly, talking to Kondrad or not laughing or smiling in a hero phase is all fine and silly, but outright insulting your opponent on purpose?
Not really a good thing to encourage GeeDubs... I'd say that rule is going to be ignored fast.
Just compare their parents to hamsters in a mocking french accent.
I feel sorry for people like yourself who have to flog this dead horse. If I lived near your shop, I can guarantee you right now, you'd be getting a very large order for KOW stuff. Hell, the way I'm feeling right now, I'd pay double for KOW models.
"When you set up this model, you can declare that it is dedicated to Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh or Tzeentch. If you do, the Daemon Prince replaces its Cursed Soul‑eater ability with the relevant ability from the following list...
1. Implies that you don't have to.
2. Contravenes current fluff about there being no unaligned Daemon Princes (besides Belakor).
They really are making it up as they go along.
Don't buy the KoW models, they suck with possible exception of the older plastic undead.
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do
2015/07/04 15:10:03
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
quickfuze wrote: So you think having to spend two hours negotiating how and what is going to be in the game, house rules, clarifications and what is an even battle is the foundation For a good game?
What kind of friends do you have that it takes two hours to say "let's not use Special Characters, they are silly"?
Some obscure polynesian languages are surprisingly verbiose.
Hakha Chin is certainly right up there in my experience.
Matt.Kingsley wrote: Yeah don't worry H.B.M.C., my post wasn't aimed at you. As Thraxas said, in an earlier post someone had a bit of a rant about the new rules in which they said everyone who enjoys them are either 5 year olds or have some mental problem.
And wow that Wulfik rule... Say "War" commandingly, talking to Kondrad or not laughing or smiling in a hero phase is all fine and silly, but outright insulting your opponent on purpose?
Not really a good thing to encourage GeeDubs... I'd say that rule is going to be ignored fast.
Just compare their parents to hamsters in a mocking french accent.
I feel sorry for people like yourself who have to flog this dead horse. If I lived near your shop, I can guarantee you right now, you'd be getting a very large order for KOW stuff. Hell, the way I'm feeling right now, I'd pay double for KOW models.
"When you set up this model, you can declare that it is dedicated to Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh or Tzeentch. If you do, the Daemon Prince replaces its Cursed Soul‑eater ability with the relevant ability from the following list...
1. Implies that you don't have to.
2. Contravenes current fluff about there being no unaligned Daemon Princes (besides Belakor).
They really are making it up as they go along.
Don't buy the KoW models, they suck with possible exception of the older plastic undead.
I disagree, many of the models look nicer than GW, IMO.
2015/07/04 15:13:07
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Samurai_Eduh wrote: Most of the warscrolls seems fine. It's mainly just special characters that have the silly rules.
Not if you play greenskins...
Excuse me, 'orrukin'.
I mean, I get into the games. I'll trash-talk a unit of goblins that squabbles instead of flank-charging, or order a squad of guardsmen executed for poor accuracy on an incoming Hive Tyrant, but it's...weird when the game itself makes you do it. It's different, you're doing it every turn for a bonus and the amusement value wears off really quickly. Once or twice on a fitting special character, like Marius Leitdorf? That's excusable. Giving it to practically every faction?
I don't want Warhammer: Unglued.
Guess this gives me an excuse to multibase my gobbos into nifty dioramas and head out for Mantica! It's a real shame, because I love the universe, but I guess I still have my RPG books. And that Mount and Blade mod. And the upcoming Total War...
Then don't forgot about Grail Knights and giving an oath to the lady of the lake every turn your in combat with a grail of some kind.
Welp the starter set models are nice enough so just need to rebase the chaos guys and I've got a nice expansion to my armies.
Which is why I said "most"!
GW Apologist-in-Chief
2015/07/04 15:13:25
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Don't buy the KoW models, they suck with possible exception of the older plastic undead.
Actually, I kinda like the look of the goblins. Thinking of picking up a few to mix in with my own ladz in a horde.
The ogres look pretty nice, too.
Which is why I said "most"!
Fair, but it's hard to listen to the 'well, just avoid special characters' argument when the same weirdness applies for the core of your army and your generic characters.
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2015/07/04 15:13:44
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Contravenes current fluff about there being no unaligned Daemon Princes
Where does it state that - is it 8th Edition? Mind you the fluff changes from edition to edition and you should know that?
We used to have unaligned / Independent minor powers of Choas as well as at least one Major God, Gods of Laws - loads of stuff.
It's in Bel'a'kor's fluff, IIRC.
Something along the lines of "he was a very naughty boy and got a bit out of hand, so the Chaos Powers got together and said 'let's not do that again!'"
I could write fluff for AoS!
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Matt.Kingsley wrote: Yeah don't worry H.B.M.C., my post wasn't aimed at you. As Thraxas said, in an earlier post someone had a bit of a rant about the new rules in which they said everyone who enjoys them are either 5 year olds or have some mental problem.
And wow that Wulfik rule... Say "War" commandingly, talking to Kondrad or not laughing or smiling in a hero phase is all fine and silly, but outright insulting your opponent on purpose?
Not really a good thing to encourage GeeDubs... I'd say that rule is going to be ignored fast.
Just compare their parents to hamsters in a mocking french accent.
I feel sorry for people like yourself who have to flog this dead horse. If I lived near your shop, I can guarantee you right now, you'd be getting a very large order for KOW stuff. Hell, the way I'm feeling right now, I'd pay double for KOW models.
"When you set up this model, you can declare that it is dedicated to Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh or Tzeentch. If you do, the Daemon Prince replaces its Cursed Soul‑eater ability with the relevant ability from the following list...
1. Implies that you don't have to.
2. Contravenes current fluff about there being no unaligned Daemon Princes (besides Belakor).
They really are making it up as they go along.
Don't buy the KoW models, they suck with possible exception of the older plastic undead.
I disagree, many of the models look nicer than GW, IMO.
Sure, if you like nuns riding housecats.
It's really all the restic that I can't stand. Worst. material. ever. (comic book guy)
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do
2015/07/04 15:15:00
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Do people seriously not bother to look at the thread before posting pics that have posted 3 times already?
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do
2015/07/04 15:19:01
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Contravenes current fluff about there being no unaligned Daemon Princes
Where does it state that - is it 8th Edition? Mind you the fluff changes from edition to edition and you should know that?
We used to have unaligned / Independent minor powers of Choas as well as at least one Major God, Gods of Laws - loads of stuff.
It's in Bel'a'kor's fluff, IIRC.
Something along the lines of "he was a very naughty boy and got a bit out of hand, so the Chaos Powers got together and said 'let's not do that again!'"
I could write fluff for AoS!
Really? Hmm I recall him being the First Chosen One but not the only Independent Daemon Prince - in fact was he not the opposite as he had backing from all the Powers - same as Archeon?
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Well bloody resist it!!! Any success for AOS = 40k getting the same treatment.
It's definitely not that simple.
I think GW already has plans in the pipeline to Sigmar 40K. I also do not believe there will be anything to stop them from Sigmarring 40K short of a dismal failure for AoS.
Not likely. This is them moving Fantasy to an Unbound 40k model. 40k already sells well, and in fact sells rules by the bucketload as well. Fantasy wasn't as popular, and also suffered from routinely needing units of 20-40 figures to play the game while GW has been moving to selling fewer models at much higher prices. Which you'll notice 40k already does very successfully.
Contravenes current fluff about there being no unaligned Daemon Princes
Where does it state that - is it 8th Edition? Mind you the fluff changes from edition to edition and you should know that?
We used to have unaligned / Independent minor powers of Choas as well as at least one Major God, Gods of Laws - loads of stuff.
It's in Bel'a'kor's fluff, IIRC.
Something along the lines of "he was a very naughty boy and got a bit out of hand, so the Chaos Powers got together and said 'let's not do that again!'"
I could write fluff for AoS!
Really? Hmm I recall him being the First Chosen One but not the only Independent Daemon Prince - in fact was he not the opposite as he had backing from all the Powers - same as Archeon?
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do
2015/07/04 15:40:41
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Slayer le boucher wrote: Or simply roll 2D12 or 2D20,...what?!..., nowhere does it says that you must roll 2D6's, it just says rolls 2 dices, and as far as i know nowhere in the rules does it says that you are limited only to D6's, while it does indeed tells you to use D6's when rolling for stuff, there is no rule that says " you cannot use any other kind of dices", just like this rule says "roll 2 dices" and not "roll 2D6's"...
See?, thats GW forging a narrative with your arse...
Any success for AOS = 40k getting the same treatment.
I severely doubt that. 40k is successful. Fantasy was failing.
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