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2015/07/09 02:36:45
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
I wouldn't either, but I suspect it's a simpler answer: they didn't want to continue with the lolpenis sigil they had been using.
I never viewed Slaanesh's sigil to be a phallus. Nurgle on the other hand started with more than the triple circle/fly symbol that they use now. I can't find any easy pics online, but if you think Slannesh has a lolpenis, check out these:
Spoilered for size only - Safe for work.
Spoiler:
Look closely:
Head Ornament on "Halberd"
Forehead on "Bell Staff and Sword"
Sword on: "Sword 1"
Gutplate on: "Halberd", "Mace", "Sword 3"
Shoulder sigil on: "Axe and Biting Tongue", "Tech Weapon", "Sword 2"
Axe head on "Axe"
So... 9 of 11 models shown there have a pretty obvious penis sigil of Nurgle on them. Even back in the say of StD I wondered how they got away with it. Eventually moving entirely to this:
H.B.M.C. wrote: I find the thought of Slaanesh being removed from the lore to be deeply disturbing. The whole "God of Sex, drugs and boobies!" is an overblown Internet meme propagated by the dunderheads at 4Chan and isn't in any way representative of what Slaanesh is or how s/he is represented within the game.
Slaanesh is the Chaos God of Excess, not sex/sexual violence. You can do a lot with Slaanesh without ever getting into that side of things, or ever describing such things. I know - I spent quite a while working with a great team of writers on a whole book dedicated to Slaanesh - and the book wasn't full of sexual deviancy and bondage.
I don't like this at all, and we need more information ASAP.
While you make an excellent point HBMC (you certainly have a lot of authority on the topic) I feel GW did play into that misconception a bit.
GW now believes that sticking boobies onto lizards and the like is sufficient to qualify for boundless excess.
I've loved the recent depictions of Slaanesh related stuff in the Horus Heresy line because it avoids the drugs/leather/boobs GW is bound to and instead opts for a more subtle but still excessive depiction of Slaanesh worshippers.
2015/07/09 03:15:54
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
I wouldn't either, but I suspect it's a simpler answer: they didn't want to continue with the lolpenis sigil they had been using.
I never viewed Slaanesh's sigil to be a phallus. Nurgle on the other hand started with more than the triple circle/fly symbol that they use now. I can't find any easy pics online, but if you think Slannesh has a lolpenis, check out these:
Spoilered for size only - Safe for work.
Spoiler:
Look closely:
Head Ornament on "Halberd"
Forehead on "Bell Staff and Sword"
Sword on: "Sword 1"
Gutplate on: "Halberd", "Mace", "Sword 3"
Shoulder sigil on: "Axe and Biting Tongue", "Tech Weapon", "Sword 2"
Axe head on "Axe"
So... 9 of 11 models shown there have a pretty obvious penis sigil of Nurgle on them. Even back in the say of StD I wondered how they got away with it. Eventually moving entirely to this:
The earliest John Blanche art of the Chaos Gods (the original concept art I think) has Father Nurgle sitting beneath a massive phallus shaped symbol surrounded by mysterious goop...
I much prefer the new symbol.
2015/07/09 03:18:51
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Haight wrote: My Take on Slaanesh: He's not gone despite the pic with the different icon. Slaanesh's icon to me always looked like a mashed up universal symbol for male gender and female gender. In this day and age, that might not be 100% kosher anymore.
Dunno. Just a thought. I don't think he's going anywhere personally, though i have no doubt he's going to continue down the path of sanitation. I may be wrong.
.. also that Sigmarine with runed sword is fething boss.
what's offensive a about that model - the name?
2015/07/09 03:20:45
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Haight wrote: My Take on Slaanesh: He's not gone despite the pic with the different icon. Slaanesh's icon to me always looked like a mashed up universal symbol for male gender and female gender. In this day and age, that might not be 100% kosher anymore.
Dunno. Just a thought. I don't think he's going anywhere personally, though i have no doubt he's going to continue down the path of sanitation. I may be wrong.
.. also that Sigmarine with runed sword is fething boss.
what's offensive a about that model - the name?
The goblin with the spear appears to be giving the hitler salute judging by the angle.
2015/07/09 03:33:30
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Or...keeping his balance. Half naked abhuman holding a huge arrow and doing the hitler salute seems like an unlikely reference.
Liking all the releases so far, looking forward to giving the game a try. I only play with friends and gameplay is secondary to hanging out so I feel like I'm the ideal secondary market.
Would have liked a Mordheim style release but I guess that's unlikely.
2015/07/09 03:33:58
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
H.B.M.C. wrote: You're seeing a lot of penises. Freud would be intrigued, but he might also say that sometimes a Nurgling is just a Nurgling.
oh, I am. That's because they're there. Remember, Denial is not a river in Egypt. Though where this particular Nurgling has his hands might explain why Papa Nurgle is always giggling...
Spoiler:
Nothing at all suggestive there. Amirite?
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The goblin with the spear appears to be giving the hitler salute judging by the angle.
Wrong hand. And I think you'll find that he lines up to one of the Levers on the War Machine. Just go with Original 2e Bob Olley-sculpted Stormboyz if you want to go the Nazi angle. Which reminds me... where's Kroothawk?
streetsamurai wrote: As much as i hate what i,ve seen and heard so far, I must admit that I'm very curious to see what will be the "final result"
I know. I just cannot look away because I know with each new revelation, more of the current customer base will be alienated because the current customer base is not the target demographic.
It's like a slow motion clown car crash. You know some hilarious stuff is on the way but if you look away, you might miss the fun.
2015/07/09 03:57:42
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
oni wrote: SOoo... Am I the only one that's noticed we'll be getting a new RoBG along with the AoS releases?
GW sent a new tile to LGS that ordered a certain number of box sets. It is normal ground with some cracks that show strange runes and patterns below.
Do you mean that there will be an entirely new six-tile set?
I've seen a few very distinct, new tiles in the AoS pictures, different from the one sent to retailers. I can only assuming it will be a new six tile set.
If you look closely at the deployment diagrams in the AoS rules (The Battle Begins section), there appears to be six different tiles pictured.
H.B.M.C. wrote: You're seeing a lot of penises. Freud would be intrigued, but he might also say that sometimes a Nurgling is just a Nurgling.
oh, I am. That's because they're there. Remember, Denial is not a river in Egypt. Though where this particular Nurgling has his hands might explain why Papa Nurgle is always giggling...
Spoiler:
Nothing at all suggestive there. Amirite?
That's a traditional Mesopotamian plague rocket, you're just being weird.
It's still less phallic then that one Stormboy jump pack illustration from....'ere we go...I think? Pretty sure it was reprinted in 2nd edition core books but maybe not.
2015/07/09 04:30:35
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
I always thought the Slaanesh symbol was an intersection of a stylized phallus and a stylized rear end. I could see it as a stylized phallus and testes going the other direction. The gender symbol mixture makes sense, too, although it was not as quick to spring to mind.
Neither have I, and really I don't think most people will look at it like that. 'Spear Chukka' fits in with other Orcy things, like 'Rock Lobba'. It's "object" and "crude method of flinging it".
The 40K artillery does that - Bubble Chukka, for example.
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So... If their goal is to protect their IP then they sure are bad at by turning the God of the dark eldar/elves into a spider.. I believe DnD already does that.
Totally absurd to change Slaanesh, as HMBC said the whole thing with slaanesh is excess.. Its just a lot of players focus on what they like most (nudity and sex) when in reality it has very little to do with sex... just the lack of inhibitions. The poster boys for slaanesh (Emperor's children) don't even have sex..
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2015/07/09 05:38:50
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
H.B.M.C. wrote: Look at the front cover to the End Times Khaine again and then tell me it doesn't resemble anything.
Spoiler:
[EDIT]: Sorry, I actually mean this picture:
Erm, do you think it looks like a penis? Everyone just seems to be talking about penis' now and I'm worried you think it looks like a penis?
Does anyone else think the word penis is being used far too much in this thread?
Penis.
I am going to go out on a limb and guess that he meant the horns of Khaine's helm remind some folks of the new 'symbol' that has apparently replaced Slaanesh's in the pic we've seen floating around today?
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