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That was a waste of an episode :/


Only good part was Cold Hands Hype.

concur, mostly dull. I am sure there was some "gotcha" crap set up in there, somewhere.

 thekingofkings wrote:
concur, mostly dull. I am sure there was some "gotcha" crap set up in there, somewhere.

Well I posted a picture way back of the mountain wrapping his hands over a faith millitant and snapping his neck.

I think this is what is going to happen.



AHEM

High sparrow and all that will burn in high septon, tommen will die this season, and the black fish will do something stupid.

I think we will also see.... maybe lady stoneheart?

Meh, I enjoyed it.

It was slow, but compared to the hyper-pacing of this season it was a little bit of a relief.

Also... good lord, Randyll Tarly is a dick.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Meh, I enjoyed it.

It was slow, but compared to the hyper-pacing of this season it was a little of a relief.

Also... good lord, Randyll Tarly is a dick.

That and Arya finally did some actual acting instead of repeating three lines.....

Randyll Tarly going to be pissed when he finds out his sword is gone lol

 Asherian Command wrote:
Randyll Tarly going to be pissed when he finds out his sword is gone lol

Well yeah, I love my kids to the end of the earth but I'd be pretty pissed off if I came downstairs in the morning to find that they had stolen my 500-year old Valyrian steel greatsword.

I enjoyed it, it was setting everything up.

That was a pretty tame episode. I was looking forward to a massacre at the sept.

The Benjen reveal didn't emphasize very well that hes literally a wight. We didn't see his black swollen hands etc.

Don't know wtf Sam is thinking. Where's he going to put Gilly? Hide her in his quarters at the Citadel?

Im getting my hopes up for lady stone heart. If its not too late for cold hands its not too late for her. Though I suppose they might give her role to sense instead. It certainly looks like she'll be splitting up with Jon in the promo for next week.

Speaking of which, does anyone know who she's meeting with? What house is that, the banner with a white clenched fist on a red background?

The next episode is "The Broken Man" (Might we finally see Meribald and the Gravedigger?)




That episode wasn't super eventful, but it set a lot of stuff up.

Plus, that close up on Drogon's mouth was beautiful.

Bran's visions were neat too. The Mad King, a bloody Lyanna, and more.

EDIT: In the trailer for the next episode, does that say "Lord Jon Stark?"

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
The Benjen reveal didn't emphasize very well that hes literally a wight. We didn't see his black swollen hands etc.

There were quite a few deliberate shots of him doing things with his hands to show that they are indeed black (and presumably cold).

Speaking of which, does anyone know who she's meeting with? What house is that, the banner with a white clenched fist on a red background?

House Glover of Deepwood Motte.

OMG! Benjen is Coldhands!

I love how they're taking stuff they skipped over in the books (Siege of Riverrun, Coldhands, the Iron Isles stuff) and working it back into the story.

My only complaint is Dany's 'Fight them on the beaches!' speech wasn't really earned. I means she had her big T-1000 moment... and now she gets another so soon? Ok honey, we get it, you're going to take everything back. We knew that already. They knew that already. It's been 6 seasons girl: Get the feth across the sea!!!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
OMG! Benjen is Coldhands!

I love how they're taking stuff they skipped over in the books (Siege of Riverrun, Coldhands, the Iron Isles stuff) and working it back into the story.

My only complaint is Dany's 'Fight them on the beaches!' speed wasn't really earned. I means she had who big T-1000 moment... and now she gets another so soon? Ok honey, we get it, you're going to take everything back. We knew that already. They knew that already. It's been 6 seasons girl: Get the feth across the sea!!!

I like a lot of the changes they made with the order (except the Dorne plot). Coldhands feels a lot more necessary now.

As for Daenerys, I'm okay with her only getting 5 minutes per episode right now, rather than 15 minutes of her riding on a horse and 15 minutes of Sansa and John playing Jehovah's Witness.

It's about time r.e Dany. I liked the episode. I don't really get what happened with the high sparrow - did he actually turn Margery? She seemed really defiant last time we saw her.

Last episode, Marge seemed very anti-sparrows and like she was holding up well. Tommen however seems to be accepting them.

Tommen will probably die soon though and she's willing to accept that.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
That was a pretty tame episode. I was looking forward to a massacre at the sept.

The Benjen reveal didn't emphasize very well that hes literally a wight. We didn't see his black swollen hands etc.

Don't know wtf Sam is thinking. Where's he going to put Gilly? Hide her in his quarters at the Citadel?

Im getting my hopes up for lady stone heart. If its not too late for cold hands its not too late for her. Though I suppose they might give her role to sense instead. It certainly looks like she'll be splitting up with Jon in the promo for next week.

Speaking of which, does anyone know who she's meeting with? What house is that, the banner with a white clenched fist on a red background?

That would be house Glover. Also in the clip was House Mormonts Banner as well.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
OMG! Benjen is Coldhands!

I love how they're taking stuff they skipped over in the books (Siege of Riverrun, Coldhands, the Iron Isles stuff) and working it back into the story.

My only complaint is Dany's 'Fight them on the beaches!' speech wasn't really earned. I means she had her big T-1000 moment... and now she gets another so soon? Ok honey, we get it, you're going to take everything back. We knew that already. They knew that already. It's been 6 seasons girl: Get the feth across the sea!!!

Yeah, they should have saved this speech for the moment when she

It should have been her Rohan "Death!" speech, a rousing battlecry before a battle. Instead she gave a speech and a battlecry in the middle of the desert...and now they're back on the march for several hundred more miles. Why bother getting the Dothraki pumped up for a long march?

So, did Drogon grow a bit since we last saw him?

It seems that way.

 Alpharius wrote:
So, did Drogon grow a bit since we last saw him?

It seems that way.

He's going to be as big as the black terror lol

Drogon hs been free ranging, so he's grown quite a bit.

Rhaegal and Viserion, being locked up, not so much.

Decent episode not the greatest though. I didn't like dannys part...."wait...how many ships do I need?" "1000" "okay 1 second" *goes around a corner comes out with a dragon*

You'd think the other dragons are gunna be pissed at her next time they see her cause she locked their asses up

I'm kinda unsure whether Tomman will die yet. My gut says "Not anytime soon."

I still have this aspect of my theory that part of the theme of the series is a "war of faiths."

So having Tomman, Margaery, the sparrows and the Lannisters being the 'avatars' of the faith of the 7 Kingdoms, versus those followers of R'h'llor versus those of the Old Gods, seems like a thing that could happen.

 chiefbigredman wrote:
Decent episode not the greatest though. I didn't like dannys part...."wait...how many ships do I need?" "1000" "okay 1 second" *goes around a corner comes out with a dragon*

You'd think the other dragons are gunna be pissed at her next time they see her cause she locked their asses up

Did Tyrion let them out or just unchain them - think the latter......

Yeah he is one big ass dragon now............. Not sure how Dany will react to the Priestess - or even what state the city will be in when she gets back but having religious fanatics alongside your fanatic nomad warriors and fantic freed slaves could work I guess. The Iron born guy is going to be so out of his depth...........but how Dany expects to control them all if she invades could be interesting..........

Some good stuff with the whole Kings Landing standoff - Margery is playing a long game I think but hard to tell......................

Supose we had to have another Sam bit sometime...............

Looks like Arya might be heading back to the main storyline

Spinning it out before we get " I Choose Violence " :(

This wasn't a waste of an episode. Tables need setting, and they don't set themselves.

I thought there was quite a lot going on - although half of the people I could not remember...

The Stark uncle, can't recall him - but he was the one in the flashbacks right?
Anyone apart from Walder Fray in his arc - who is their captive again?

The High Sparrow turning Tommen is clever and I think that's why Margery is going along with it all at the moment - it would be a massive turnaround for he to suddenly see the light from the last time we saw her.

Her grandmother is still massively underused and from the trailer her having a go at Cersei is a bit rich considering she has done preciously nothing to get Margery out - considering her son has a great big army.....

The captive is Edmure Tully, Catelyn Stark's brother. The Red Wedding was his wedding, he married the Frey girl in Robb Stark's place and then when they'd left for the "bedding ceremony", the massacre began.

 Mr Morden wrote:
The Stark uncle, can't recall him - but he was the one in the flashbacks right?

That wa Benjen Stark, Ned's younger brother and former First Ranger of the Night's Watch. He went missing north of the Wall in the third episode of the first season.

Anyone apart from Walder Fray in his arc - who is their captive again?

Edmure Tully, Catelyn Stark's brother and the person offered to marry into the Freys in place of Robb.

Her grandmother is still massively underused and from the trailer her having a go at Cersei is a bit rich considering she has done preciously nothing to get Margery out - considering her son has a great big army.....

While I agree that more Diana Rigg is always better, I wouldn't say she hasn't done anything to help Margaery, I mean she did march her army into King's Landing... That has to count for something.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
The Stark uncle, can't recall him - but he was the one in the flashbacks right?

That wa Benjen Stark, Ned's younger brother and former First Ranger of the Night's Watch. He went missing north of the Wall in the third episode of the first season.

Anyone apart from Walder Fray in his arc - who is their captive again?

Edmure Tully, Catelyn Stark's brother and the person offered to marry into the Freys in place of Robb.

Her grandmother is still massively underused and from the trailer her having a go at Cersei is a bit rich considering she has done preciously nothing to get Margery out - considering her son has a great big army.....

While I agree that more Diana Rigg is always better, I wouldn't say she hasn't done anything to help Margaery, I mean she did march her army into King's Landing... That has to count for something.

Thanks - don't remember them at all good to know though and looks like they will be important.

Well the whole lets use the Tyrell army was Cersei's idea IIRC not hers - she was just sitting in the Little Council being snarky apparently ever since her relations where taken captive - save for the one scene where she went and threatened the High Sparrow a long long time ago but never followed through .....

That wa Benjen Stark, Ned's younger brother and former First Ranger of the Night's Watch. He went missing north of the Wall in the third episode of the first season

Ah right - then technically he can do a Jon Snow and claim the Stark lands - having died and everything and not being illegitimate? Or did he not properly die - not sure from the episode.

Benjen doesn't really have a legitimate claim on Winterfell since Ned had children and some of them are still living.

Also, Jon was named Robb's heir to King in the North so there's that...

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Benjen doesn't really have a legitimate claim on Winterfell since Ned had children and some of them are still living.

Also, Jon was named Robb's heir to King in the North so there's that...

Depends - he is a "legitimate and male" and historically in similar societies than will be more significant than "daughter and legitimate" If Rickon gets sliced and diced as seems likely that the last known male Stark.

- look at what happened in the Iron Isles last episode.......

however he does not look like he is in a hurry to claim anything...........so likely a non issue.

Who named Jon as such - if it was Stanis that's meaningless then and now

Diana Rigg is an amazing actress and she has done Lady Olenna so well. She's very under-utilized in the books and any expansion of her part in the story is welcome by me.

I don't think she's underused in dealing with the Sparrow though. She went straight up to him in the sept to try and bribe him. They had a talk about aging and she offers him gold and wealth, threatens to starve out King's Landing, and receives a threat of revolution in return.

She doesn't want Cersei's help if she can avoid it. She knows what Cersei did and that's why she pulled Mace and Kevan away from them when Jaime and Cersei wanted to sit with the small council. She knows they can't force him down without Tommen openly denouncing him, she can't bribe him, understands his influence, and can't risk losing the Tyrell line.

I do wonder why she showed up to the sept for the confrontation. They'd have to rush her away in the palanquin and a riot would likely get her killed. I'd love to see her off the high septon though.


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 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Benjen doesn't really have a legitimate claim on Winterfell since Ned had children and some of them are still living.

Also, Jon was named Robb's heir to King in the North so there's that...

Nobody is sure if Bran is alive. Rickon's probably going to get flayed. I bet we either see Howland Reed again (hopefully with his moving castle), or Sansa just says screw it and legitimizes him. They didn't do Robb's will in the show though, so I doubt that's the route they would take.